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Old 08-22-2016, 11:34 AM   #49
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All I care about at this point is getting some defensive games. At this point, like in '16, I am still getting shootouts and around 900 total yards of offense. I am getting between the 120-130 plays per game.

My trial is now over, but I can say the threshold slider will again be a key factor in gameplay. Many shots down field are being completed (mainly by me). QB fumbles are an issue. Stickiness between DL/OL needs to be toned down.

Again, I only messed around in the trial and need some more time playing. Finding some defense will be my goal. Hopefully we can find that sooner than later from what we learned in '16.
We made progress yesterday on the lineplay and defensive aggression. I will know more when I can start playing in just over 12 hours.
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Old 08-22-2016, 11:44 AM   #50
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In the auto sub thread (Post #3), I'm seeing that the HB will rotate out at 70 versus default Fatigue (50)...

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...t-working.html

If that's the case, then bumping fatigue to 60 SHOULD make them rotate out at default 60 / 80...

THEN, if you find that like last year the "foot planting" etc. is better at lower "Out" values, on could THEORETICALLY bump fatigue again by increments of 5, while subtracting that value from the out number...

For example:

Fatigue at 60 = Auto Subs at 60 / 80

Fatigue at 65 = Auto Subs at 55 / 80

Fatigue at 70 = Auto Subs at 50 / 80

Fatigue at 75 = Auto Subs at 45 / 80

#ballpark

Possibly 45 Fatigue Auto subs 75/80 would give us what we want?
Better gameplay due to the lower fatigue and more rotation
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Old 08-22-2016, 12:32 PM   #51
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Guys idk why your already seeing highscoring games?
I was almost SHUTOUT last night on All default AP!!(didn't touch any settings in MM).
I noticed my Main Menu Gamespeed was Normal but my Franchise Settings show it set to Slow, so maybe I did change that in the MM.

My 1st 2 preseason games,
My Skins 20 @ Falcons 15(defensive battle) a few too many turnovers(5 vs cpu 3)

My Skins 7 vs Jets 12 CRAZY Defensive game! (Even blocked my 1st FG!) Still only to lose due to turnovers!
This game had turnovers, turnovers, and some more turnovers!(8 vs cpu 5)

So alot of defense being played for sure! Sloppy play on my part, learning real quick to NOT throw into double coverage!

I've also been providing the CPU with a Custom PB(Team Gameplan PB)
Just for fun last night I gave the Jets the Run and Shoot PB and they were running draws and screens on 3rd and 2nd and longs.
This is a BIG game changer for anyone playing vs CPU!
Link Added:http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-cpu-user.html

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Old 08-22-2016, 12:35 PM   #52
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We made progress yesterday on the lineplay and defensive aggression. I will know more when I can start playing in just over 12 hours.
Kind of funny how you're already making adjustments and you haven't even played the game yet. I know watching videos will show you a lot, but playing it will give you a better feel for sure. I do think we learned a lot from '16.

* On a side note, my observations were from ALL DEFAULT including default penalties. I did try to change a few (QB Acc, Tacking, Int) and it drastically changed the gameplay...and not in a good way.
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Guys idk why your already seeing highscoring games?
I was almost SHUTOUT last night on All default AP!!(didn't touch any settings in MM).
I noticed my Main Menu Gamespeed was Normal but my Franchise Settings show it set to Slow, so maybe I did change that in the MM.

My 1st 2 preseason games,
My Skins 20 @ Falcons 15(defensive battle) a few too many turnovers(5 vs cpu 3)

My Skins 7 vs Jets 12 CRAZY Defensive game! (Even blocked my 1st FG!) Still only to lose due to turnovers!
This game had turnovers, turnovers, and some more turnovers!(8 vs cpu 5)

So alot of defense being played for sure! Sloppy play on my part, learning real quick to NOT throw into double coverage!

I've also been providing the CPU with a Custom PB(Team Gameplan PB)
Just for fun last night I gave the Jets the Run and Shoot PB and they were running draws and screens on 3rd and 2nd and longs.
This is a BIG game changer for anyone playing vs CPU!
Adding the link.......

Other than game speed, was this on all Default settings (including penalties)?
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Guys idk why your already seeing highscoring games?
I was almost SHUTOUT last night on All default AP!!(didn't touch any settings in MM).
I noticed my Main Menu Gamespeed was Normal but my Franchise Settings show it set to Slow, so maybe I did change that in the MM.

My 1st 2 preseason games,
My Skins 20 @ Falcons 15(defensive battle) a few too many turnovers(5 vs cpu 3)

My Skins 7 vs Jets 12 CRAZY Defensive game! (Even blocked my 1st FG!) Still only to lose due to turnovers!
This game had turnovers, turnovers, and some more turnovers!(8 vs cpu 5)

So alot of defense being played for sure! Sloppy play on my part, learning real quick to NOT throw into double coverage!

I've also been providing the CPU with a Custom PB(Team Gameplan PB)
Just for fun last night I gave the Jets the Run and Shoot PB and they were running draws and screens on 3rd and 2nd and longs.
This is a BIG game changer for anyone playing vs CPU!
Adding the link.......
you have to be doing something different? my games, as josh has seen have been score fests.

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Guys idk why your already seeing highscoring games?
I was almost SHUTOUT last night on All default AP!!(didn't touch any settings in MM).
I noticed my Main Menu Gamespeed was Normal but my Franchise Settings show it set to Slow, so maybe I did change that in the MM.

My 1st 2 preseason games,
My Skins 20 @ Falcons 15(defensive battle) a few too many turnovers(5 vs cpu 3)

My Skins 7 vs Jets 12 CRAZY Defensive game! (Even blocked my 1st FG!) Still only to lose due to turnovers!
This game had turnovers, turnovers, and some more turnovers!(8 vs cpu 5)

So alot of defense being played for sure! Sloppy play on my part, learning real quick to NOT throw into double coverage!

I've also been providing the CPU with a Custom PB(Team Gameplan PB)
Just for fun last night I gave the Jets the Run and Shoot PB and they were running draws and screens on 3rd and 2nd and longs.
This is a BIG game changer for anyone playing vs CPU!
Adding the link.......
Giving the CPU a custom playbook actually helps you'd say?
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Giving the CPU a custom playbook actually helps you'd say?
I hope it is as simple as that, that would be awesome, big find.

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