IF the gameplay is good enough, can it make up for what CFM appears to be lacking?

[jmurphy31]

For me, no. Personally I only play solo cfm. I will play 16, because I somewhat enjoyed 15. But I always ask why can't we have both improved gameplay, CFM, presentation, etc. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't they seperate teams?

[jpdavis82]

Quote: Originally Posted by ggsimmonds

Yes, gameplay could make up for CFM if it is good enough, but what would make it good enough? My initial answer was no because I answered the question with reasonable expectations for gameplay. If gameplay is good enough it could make up for nearly everything else. It would make up for not having a NFL license. But that requires a unreasonable standard for gameplay. That is my view anyway. I'd be careful about overselling the gameplay improvements. In an effort to defend and support the game you may be laying down the kindling for a future fire.

It has nothing to do with defending or supporting the game, it's my honest opinion. I felt M15 gameplay was a 7.5/10.

[TMJOHNS18]

Yes and no.

Playing in an online CCM can supplement the shortcomings of the CPU and lack of CCM features, but at the same time nearly all of the presentation features added to the game in M15 were lost when playing a user. Very little presentations elements survived from CPU games to USER games, making the season feel like a series of unranked online games.

Whether I'm playing Madden, NBA2k, or the Show I want to enjoy the offline franchise modes as well. I'm the type of player who focuses on roster management, offseason, and only plays playoff games (if I ever make them). In recent years I've abandoned Madden offline CCM due to what little it offers in the area of non-game aspects of the CCM, so if gameplay is the only sound portion of M16 then I would once again contain my gameplay to the online CCM.

[The JareBear]

I just really need a smart and unpredictable CPU. If EA can figure out a way to make playing the CPU feel like playing a human, then I'll tip my cap to them.

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by The JareBear

I just really need a smart and unpredictable CPU. If EA can figure out a way to make playing the CPU feel like playing a human, then I'll tip my cap to them.

Excellent point. Improved, dynamic AI adds a lot to franchise modes.

If I have to approach each game differently, and each opponent on my schedule has a different gameplan I would really enjoy a CFM, even if the other features are lacking.

Minor semantic point though -- Unpredictable AI is not a good thing. Unpredictable means random. That would be a disaster. I understood the spirit of the comment though.

[jmurphy31]

Quote: Originally Posted by The JareBear

I just really need a smart and unpredictable CPU. If EA can figure out a way to make playing the CPU feel like playing a human, then I'll tip my cap to them.

Yes....I would love to hear that one year they improved the CPU playcalling, decision making, style of play to match their personnel

[charter04]

Yes it would for me. Gameplay is the most important part of the game for me by far. Unless things about CFM (goals and progression) affect the gameplay negativaly like in Madden 15.



I want full immersion from CFM no doubt but, since I mostly just play online CFM we create our own.

[ggsimmonds]

Quote: Originally Posted by charter04

Yes it would for me. Gameplay is the most important part of the game for me by far. Unless things about CFM (goals and progression) affect the gameplay negativaly like in Madden 15. I want full emersion from CFM not doubt but, since I mostly just play online CFM we create our own.

I'll be honest on this, at times I have a little bitterness towards you guys. I feel as though because of what you said, EA does not feel as much pressure to add to the immersion factor of CFM for us offline guys.

Bitterness may be the wrong word because it is no fault of yours, hopefully you understand where I am coming from.