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Old 06-06-2009, 06:31 PM   #73
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Thats cool.. But why cant the ball carrier be engaged in a gang tackle while falling to the ground? That would be sweet IMO. You see it a ton during games where a defender comes in and hits the ball carrier as he is falling.
I think, because all the animations/motion caputure thingys are for players standing up. Again, I think.
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:32 PM   #74
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Isee ya Adembroski that was some good double teaming. So is the 3-4 finally effective?

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Old 06-06-2009, 06:36 PM   #75
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:53 PM   #76
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Ian great freaking job your the man!

Hey when you make the vids do you think you can make them comparison videos to see exactly what you mean with the percentages?
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Ian, any chance on you guys adding an interactive sideline for this year. You know players knocking over coaches and other players on the sideline. By the way great job on gameplay and presentation thusfar...
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Isee ya Adembroski that was some good double teaming. So is the 3-4 finally effective?
Defense in general was not effective against the run at CD (hence the toning back of momentum), so it was hard to say. This wasn't because of the D-Line, but the linebackers, so it was easy to see how improved d-line play was. I expect the 3-4 is going to feel much better than before... especially now that there are really two major styles of it in the game (Fire Zone and Hybrid).

Speaking of which, I need to go back through some videos and look at linebacker play, see if that got shored up.
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I was a bit concerned with the E3 build (like most of you probably were) that were a lot of times where defenders would just bounce off instead of wrapping up. I am happy to say it is much improved...just played a full game against Donny (I was Vikings, he was Cardinals - he killed me BTW), and it was WAY better ... much more predictable and reliable than the E3 build.

I dug deeper to see what happened and found out that before E3 there was some tuning being done to dictate when gang tackles could be triggered, and the primary criteria was the angle of the ballcarrier in relation to the ground. Meaning, if a player was about to fall / touch the ground, he shouldn't be able to be gang tackled (obviously because he would warp back to upright). Apparently there were a few bugs in this calculation though, so often times it would think he was leaned over when in fact he wasn't. Now it has been tuned much more appropriately, and the gang tackles are really looking great.

As a side note, the momentum in PRO-TAK is also much more pronounced as well (and also finally doesn't stop when the players engage...it keeps moving throughout the tackle) Both Beanie Wells and Peterson really felt like they were carrying those first 2 defenders when they had a head of steam...which looked and felt great. Unfortunately I don't have vids but I'll try to get some soon.

Thought you'd like the update...on to looking at everyone's other favorite issue - the pass rush!
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Defense in general was not effective against the run at CD (hence the toning back of momentum), so it was hard to say. This wasn't because of the D-Line, but the linebackers, so it was easy to see how improved d-line play was. I expect the 3-4 is going to feel much better than before... especially now that there are really two major styles of it in the game (Fire Zone and Hybrid).

Speaking of which, I need to go back through some videos and look at linebacker play, see if that got shored up.
I need to look at it too. I do notice that for the backers that have been adjusted to line up 5 yards deep, they seem to play better. But for the guys lining up in the line they are out of the play.
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