UFC 188 - Velasquez v. Werdum/Melendez v. Alvarez - Mexico City - June 13

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by The JareBear

I agree that the altitude clearly was a huge factor, I am sure the long layoff did not help either. Do the rematch in Vegas, then we will see

Nah. I'm not a big fan of doing immediate rematches if you get stopped. Give JDS the next shot. They have a history and it would be a great main event for the Brazil PPV they may do in November.

Give Cain someone like Hunt or Nelson and maybe put him on the Fox card in December.

[The JareBear]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I think we will see one in the next 2 years. Mexico City has sold out two straight events and I dont think many cities can say that. Plus the UFC cant leave money on the table like that. No excuse for Cain though. On Embedded, Javier Mendez said he asked Cain to go to Mexico City much earlier but Cain would only agree to 2 weeks. Thats a big reason he lost.

I saw that and scratched my head a little. Werdum was there for 6 weeks or something like that wasn't he? Think he was there a long time for he Hunt fight as well? I can't remember the exact details.

But yeah, why take that chance?

[The JareBear]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Nah. I'm not a big fan of doing immediate rematches if you get stopped. Give JDS the next shot. They have a history and it would be a great main event for the Brazil PPV they may do in November. Give Cain someone like Hunt or Nelson and maybe put him on the Fox card in December.

For sure, I meant if they do end up rematching down the road, which might not even happen. JDS/Werdum is an interesting fight.

In fact there are lot of great matchups right now in the HW division. As exciting as its been in awhile

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by The JareBear

I saw that and scratched my head a little. Werdum was there for 6 weeks or something like that wasn't he? Think he was there a long time for he Hunt fight as well? I can't remember the exact details. But yeah, why take that chance?

Exactly. Werdum was there for 2 mos. He did a month before the Hunt fight. Poor planning and a bit of arrogance by Cain. He took that Cardio Cain **** to heart. High altitude affects us all no matter who you are.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by The JareBear

For sure, I meant if they do end up rematching down the road, which might not even happen. JDS/Werdum is an interesting fight. In fact there are lot of great matchups right now in the HW division. As exciting as its been in awhile

Thats the big positive to the Werdum win. It opens up the division. We have 3 potential contenders against Werdum (JDS/Miocic/Arlovski) and a Cain rematch down the road.

[LingeringRegime]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Exactly. Werdum was there for 2 mos. He did a month before the Hunt fight. Poor planning and a bit of arrogance by Cain. He took that Cardio Cain **** to heart. High altitude affects us all no matter who you are.

I was stunned to hear that he only came there in 2 weeks advanced. If I would have known that I wouldn't have thought he would win. Especially since he hadn't fought for 600+ days.

[DJ]

Quote: Originally Posted by The JareBear

So honest question. Let's talk Werdum's legacy. He submitted Fedor, back when Fedor was still the scariest guy in the world. He mollywhopped a prime Roy Nelson, and a prime Travis Browne (made Browne look silly in that fight) Submitted Cain Knocked out Mark Hunt (an old Mark Hunt, but still, Mark Hunt) Subbed Nog I mean that's pretty impressive, as far as all-time HWs does he stack up in any top lists?

I don't know where he ranks, but man, that's an impressive resume and he's definitely been underrated.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by DJ

I don't know where he ranks, but man, that's an impressive resume and he's definitely been underrated.

The only thing that hurts him imo are the Overreem losses and the Jds loss. With that said he is a whole different fighter now. Hell of a resume now too.