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Old 03-02-2015, 01:27 AM   #57
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Re: Why is it "okay" to cheat?

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If you want to argue to 2K that 7 foot people shouldn't be allowed to move like forwards that is a legit argument. But that's not getting change as long as you can buy VC to increase attributes.
This made no sense.
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Old 03-02-2015, 03:13 AM   #58
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I agree, all this bs needs to stop.
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Old 03-02-2015, 05:28 AM   #59
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If you get rid of cheating the cheesers might actually have to play realistic basketball and you know that's not going to happen.
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Old 03-02-2015, 01:20 PM   #60
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I agree, all this bs needs to stop.
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Old 03-02-2015, 02:59 PM   #61
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My question/challenge to you is to tell me an exploit. The exact exploit. I'll tell you a realistic way exactly to counter it. Except for 7 ft 3 people, just like in real life height wins. If you want to argue to 2K that 7 foot people shouldn't be allowed to move like forwards that is a legit argument. But that's not getting change as long as you can buy VC to increase attributes. Any other "exploit" I'll tell you EXACTLY how to counter. Give me one?
You don't have to tell me how to counter, I know how.

If someone's zig-zagging, you have to anticipate which way they're going and get there first. I don't use LT/RT on d because it slows you down (which makes no sense).
I use the right stick more, and never actually jump on d. You get the same contest by just putting your hands up.

Setting screens in the paint, I do my work early and get into my position before them. I also have tenacious rebounder and pick pocket so even if they get it I just smash x. (Further proving my point) Why should we have to cheese back just to deal with these exploits?

Corner stepbacks? Again, if you know it's coming just get a hand up...still, it doesn't seem like contests actually mean anything from that spot.
And even better, the three's from the corner are still glitched...you can only shoot a 3 if you're doing the stepback nonsense.

Driving baseline + baseline dunks is just horrible. People can run directly out of bounds but not actually go out because 2K's too lenient on the force-field.
Let's not mention how glitchy baseline dunks look, plus they trigger so easy and are nearly unblockable.

My point is, 3 people on a team doing these things and you have to play a near perfect game just to beat them. But why? Why is it okay for them to do that? There's people who can beat it, but it's still bad basketball and shouldn't be rewarded.
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Old 03-02-2015, 05:10 PM   #62
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Ok please don't get mad at me but you are doing certain things wrong and most people make this mistake including me months ago and that's why people use these strategies online so much.

"If someone's zig-zagging, you have to anticipate which way they're going and get there first. I don't use LT/RT on d because it slows you down (which makes no sense).
I use the right stick more, and never actually jump on d. You get the same contest by just putting your hands up."

Unless the ballhandler is a complete scrub there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to guard a ball handler without using LT, LT + RT or RT some of the time. If you just use the L stick with no modifiers you can follow the ball handler but as soon as he engages turbo, an ISO motion move, triple threat or even just a sharp angle cut you weren't expecting, he LOST you according to the programming of the game. And he can now pull up for a shot which the game will consider wide open, or he will drive without you being able to stop him unless you turbo way far ahead to where he's going. You have to utilize the modifiers or you can't defend. They are there for a reason. Including quick steps with R stick. I can give detailed explanation on how to use them if you want and if you have xbox one I'll demonstrate.

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Corner stepbacks? Again, if you know it's coming just get a hand up...still, it doesn't seem like contests actually mean anything from that spot.
And even better, the three's from the corner are still glitched...you can only shoot a 3 if you're doing the stepback nonsense."

This is also related to you being lost by the process I described above by not using the modifiers. And also the R stick contest. Unless you are extremely close to the ball handler the contest doesn't register. Very close. And if ball handler knows what he's doing, if you play so close as soon as he hits you with a quick flick of turbo in any direction he knows the shot is essentially uncontested because you aren't using modifiers. If you get beat off the dribble, which you do all the time, you have to use the block button to contest from a distance, if not the game registers it as an uncontested **** even if you are using R stick. True for anywhere on court but effective in the corner because of what I'll describe below.

"Driving baseline + baseline dunks is just horrible. People can run directly out of bounds but not actually go out because 2K's too lenient on the force-field.
Let's not mention how glitchy baseline dunks look, plus they trigger so easy and are nearly unblock-able"

First guarding the baseline is as simple as anywhere. However, the angles you have to take are different because of the camera angle you are using. That coupled with you only using L Stick to defend are a recipe for disaster. Ball handlers will hover around the point you have to adjust the angles you take and using turbo or isomotion RIGHT THEN. You're ghost every time. and because there's less space from corner to run then from up top to rim, you get Jammed on as soon as he makes the move. Or if you run frantically to rim it's an easy jumper. It's not an exploit, players are just exploiting your bad defense! You have to learn to use modifiers and change the angle you take to cutoff defender as he moves to the sides and corners. Da CZAR has a great video detailing this.
Again Ill answer any specific question you have about it and can demonstrate on Xbox one.

As far as screens under the basket in my park. It's a park game lol. In real life if huge guys were screening under basket in the park it would be a problem. That's where there's 3 second violation in regulation. In the park all bets are off lol.
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Old 03-02-2015, 06:12 PM   #63
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its so funny to face zig zaggers. " i do it so i can get open" i really feel like im the only guy in the park who uses dribble moves to break down my guy, and get a open shot. (that will miss 3/5 times for god knows what reason) <_<
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Old 03-03-2015, 06:41 AM   #64
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so i went to play the stage for the first time since the launch of this game with my boys. LMFAO. this is Cheese GALLORE

- Pick Cheese
- Corner Stepback Cheese
- Zig Zagging

LMAO im a 6'2 SG facing SFS andetc and they are in the paint holding their junk pick cheesing vs me , and im still coming out with twice their boards LMFAO.

they try zig zagging and they just get stuck or they run into me and lose the ball

the last resort is the stepback BS. and they still end up losing,. LMAOOOOOOO


this game is too funny
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