There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

This seems like the crux of the issue. The scope of the game allowed the sales and revenue to increase over the last few years probably beyond their wildest dreams, and because of that it's possible that "back to basics" may no longer be considered a viable design pitch by high level executives in the organization.

This has been the bs scapegoat for the last few years as 2K has gone more and more arcade and basically have gone Hollywood (which as a business is of course what they want, to go main stream). But let's not confuse popularity with quality.

There's this bs narrative out there that the Devs are these basketball purists who'd work for free while the money hungry executives are the real problem. At some point, the blame needs to go on Visual Concepts. Just like they get the praise when they make an amazing game. Can't have it both ways. They are complicit with all of these directions as they watch the money pile in. No one forces them to work there. No one forces Mike Wang to go on Twitter and blogs and pretend like he's trying to "balance" the game for the community. I can bring up tweet after tweet, or poll after poll where he's like "hey guys how's this ___ working? Is it too OP? Do we need to tweak it?" It's all bs and marketing.

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks

Dude I'm convinced you work for the 2K marketing department at this point. Good Lawd...

Dude, I'm convinced you can't handle someone having a different opinion than your own.

[jk31]

Quote: Originally Posted by Real2KInsider

The US is likely decades away (more specifically, it's loot boxes that are a problem, rather than MTX themselves). It will depend on how hard companies push the envelope and whether it becomes a societal problem (which would then takes years of studies). Given the direction of sports betting, It's more likely we're heading in the opposite direction. It's up to the consumer whether they want to pay $60 + dump additional money into their account. They can download League of Legends for free & optionally buy characters & costumes. At this point 2K would probably be better served going the FTP (free-to-play) route, but they can't because they don't own the IP. The only reason we're still buying the game is the NBA's billion dollar licensing fee. MyTeam is a gacha game. I'm curious how many players actually know what those are and realize they're playing one. 2K certainly hits a different demographic. Just as there are lots of people that dislike RPGs like Final Fantasy but then play MyCareer.

what is a gacha game? never Heard thaz expression before.

[Kully]

Quote: Originally Posted by jk31

what is a gacha game? never Heard thaz expression before.

Ever see those machines at supermarkets that have little toys in capsules? They are called gachapon in Japan. Basically, it's the type of game that requires you to spend currency to open packs to collect characters/items/etc, and the rare ones are stupid hard to get, so it kinda makes you want to keep spending money to get those rare characters/items. The game wants you to keep gambling and getting packs.

MyTeam is a gatcha game.

They are a little predatory, they like to hide how much you spend by making you buy in-game currency (VC in 2K's case), always just trickle enough currency so that you can try it, but never too much so that you don't feel the need to spend money, and always have characters/items that get more rare and are super powerful (amethyst, galaxy opel, pink diamond, etc)

I play those kinda games on occasion, my favourite one right now is Genshin Impact lol.

[Real2KInsider]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha_game

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Gacha games are video games that implement the gacha (toy vending machine) mechanic. Similar to loot boxes, gacha games induce players to spend in-game currency to receive a random virtual item. Most of these games are free-to-play mobile games, where the gacha serves as an incentive to spend real-world money. The gacha game model began to be widely used in the early 2010s, particularly in Japan. Almost all of the highest-grossing mobile games in Japan use it, and it has become an integral part of Japanese mobile game culture. The game mechanism is also increasingly used in Chinese and Korean games.

Appeal

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Game developers have praised gacha as being a great free-to-play monetisation strategy. Most developers that work primarily with free-to-play games recommend it be incorporated into the game starting with the concept for maximum monetisation potential. It has been debated what makes gacha so addictive to so many players. Some believe that gacha games play on the inherent hunter-gatherer instinct that people have to collect items, as well as the desire to complete a set. Others believe it is simply the replication of the thrill of gambling that brings players back time and time again

Criticism and controversy

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In May 2012, an article was published in a conservative Japanese newspaper, the Yomiuri Shimbun, that criticized social networking games and specifically gacha for exploiting the naivety of children to make a profit. The main complaint of the article was that the gacha model too closely resembled gambling. Several cases of teenagers and even younger kids spending equivalents of over 1000 USD have been reported in the media. The mechanism has come under scrutiny for its similarity to gambling, and some countries require drop rates to be made public, or have banned certain practices (e.g., complete gacha). Many players also feel regret after making purchases in these games according to a survey. This type of game has also come under criticism for luring players into spending thousands of dollars at a time to get what they want, and the way gacha outcomes are presented within the game have also been criticized. Children are likely to be affected by the gambling-like mechanism since mobile devices provides easy access to payment; some game developers also intentionally introduce emotional manipulations and exploitive practices.

^This is where any potential legislation would come from. If games w/ loot box mechanics are required to be marketed towards Adults, that would have major implications towards any family friendly brand.

[howardphillips214]

Iirc VC first was introduced in 2k13. We’ve been having this conversation for almost a decade. I don’t think it’s going anywhere.

[luda06]

Yeah... Seems like the ability to save freelances and other coach settings across all modes is a fairly difficult task.


I believe NBA 2K7 was the last 2K to allow users to edit playbooks and coach settings outside of an actual game... and they'd persist online and offline.

[Thrustie]

Definitely agree with this post. I started out excited with Next Gen. I still believe there’s the skeleton of a great game here. All these little glitches were present at launch and I was confident they’d be cleaned up in short order. 2.5 months later and it feels like very little has been fixed. I have personal issues with the way the game is balanced (I.E. Too many contact dunks, PF builds, fades etc.) but for all I know that’s “as intended”. But these glitches, bugs and bad coding are just sloppy and to still have them this long after launch comes off as lazy.


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