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Old 01-20-2021, 06:56 PM   #1
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There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

I don't even know what to start with but there's so many things wrong with this game that's it's absolutely embarrassing for a major publisher/developer to ignore fixing them and flat out not even acknowledging them. There's the plethora of gameplay issues that I don't have to elaborate on. Like the godlike finishing ability 90% of the builds have.The game being 99% reliant on fixed animations that the user doesn't have control of. A horrific contest system that's been broken for half a decade now. And much more...

But the non gameplay related issues:

Rec stats during player intros. This has been an issue since 2k18. Everyone shows 0.0 for all stats. Is it game breaking? No. But it takes away from the experience and it's a joke that it hasn't been fixed 4 years later.

Friends still don't show up at top of list on phone (Xbox. Apparently PS5 fixed this a long time ago). If a friend isn't near me it's so lovely having to scroll down to the X's.

Not sure how this is on PS5 but on Xbox the loading times were so amazingly fast the first month. Joined a friend invite to the rec or city and boom 10 seconds later I am there next to them. The game itself loaded up to the main menu very fast as well. Now? I sit there for 45-60 seconds staring at Zion before I am at the main menu. Joining a friend is hit or miss but either way it's definitely slower. Sometimes it will hop around a couple random screens while loading and then 30 seconds later you appear. Try leaving the rec back to the city. LMAO. You can hear the city but you can't see **** for 30-40 seconds.

There's a bunch more I want to touch on 1 more that is so unacceptable that it's hilarious. So I have created a couple ProAm teams. The latest one I made was last week sometime but we haven't actually played a game in ProAm on that team. Zero games. Zero 5v5 and zero 3v3 games. But our record now shows 0-27. Each day there are more losses added on. We arent't playing but they are adding someone's losses to our team record lmao. What's even funnier is when you check last 10 games... there is only 4 game results in there. So according to our ProAm info we are 0-27 (and counting) with only 4 game results showing.... makes sense. To reiterate, my actually team hasn't stepped foot on a ProAm floor yet with this team. My brothers team shows 0-93 because losses keep on showing up each day.I know this isnt just an outlier incident either. Every single person I have talked to has told me their team shows the same type of stats. I attached images of this stuff too.

TL;DR ... There are a ton of little things in this game that take away from the experience. They are things that can be fixed easily and quickly but they go ignored and unacknowledged. They always talk about how they want to listen to the community to try and make the game that we want blah blah blah but I still see the same issues for years now that people have to complain about annually to them on social media. The lack of care for the consumer is egregious.
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Old 01-20-2021, 10:57 PM   #2
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Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

How do u KNOW these are easy fixes? How many years have u worked in video game development? What is your qualification for making this claim? Just curious


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The stat tracking across the board the MyPlayer modes is jacked up. I'm just about to hit SS1 and it says I have 10 games played, lol. I'm still averaging 1000 blocks a game in Rec.

Those are small things (to me), but just SOME of the technical issues online players have to deal with. Let's hope you can even load in The City and your files not corrupted.

Regardless of how easy it is to fix or not, all these issues that you have to deal with BEFORE you even get on the court and have to deal with fadeaway 3's is very frustrating. Especially with 2K not saying anything about it.

As innovative as 2K is with their ideas, they are clearly not in a place where they can support their ambitions...and its a bad look. I really think it's time to go back to the basics.


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The stat tracking across the board the MyPlayer modes is jacked up. I'm just about to hit SS1 and it says I have 10 games played, lol. I'm still averaging 1000 blocks a game in Rec.

Those are small things (to me), but just SOME of the technical issues online players have to deal with. Let's hope you can even load in The City and your files not corrupted.

Regardless of how easy it is to fix or not, all these issues that you have to deal with BEFORE you even get on the court and have to deal with fadeaway 3's is very frustrating. Especially with 2K not saying anything about it.

As innovative as 2K is with their ideas, they are clearly not in a place where they can support their ambitions...and its a bad look. I really think it's time to go back to the basics.


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This seems like the crux of the issue. The scope of the game allowed the sales and revenue to increase over the last few years probably beyond their wildest dreams, and because of that it's possible that "back to basics" may no longer be considered a viable design pitch by high level executives in the organization.
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This seems like the crux of the issue. The scope of the game allowed the sales and revenue to increase over the last few years probably beyond their wildest dreams, and because of that it's possible that "back to basics" may no longer be considered a viable design pitch by high level executives in the organization.
I think this is simplifying things a bit. The industry has changed DRASTICALLY over the last decade.

MTX are a staple of gaming and companies (particularly those reliant on it) aren't going to change their models until the federal government regulates it.
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MTX are a staple of gaming and companies (particularly those reliant on it) aren't going to change their models until the federal government regulates it.
I wouldn't be holding my breath on the federal government regulating MTX in this capitalistic society. I'm against an overabundance of MTX but in the case of 2k, unless you're talking about myteam, there isn't a need to spend real money to get good results. Sure grinding myplayer in NBA games is boring af and it would be great to take away much of that grind but it's not a necessity to buy VC to compete online. On the other hand, MTX ruin the competitive balance in myteam for people that don't want to buy VC. Then of course you have my(W)Nba, play now and blacktop. So at least for me, the real problem 2k has with MTX is in myteam and I don't play it because of that.

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I wouldn't be holding my breath on the federal government regulating MTX in this capitalistic society.
The US is likely decades away (more specifically, it's loot boxes that are a problem, rather than MTX themselves). It will depend on how hard companies push the envelope and whether it becomes a societal problem (which would then takes years of studies). Given the direction of sports betting, It's more likely we're heading in the opposite direction.


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I'm against an overabundance of MTX but in the case of 2k, unless you're talking about myteam, there isn't a need to spend real money to get good results. Sure grinding myplayer in NBA games is boring af and it would be great to take away much of that grind but it's not a necessity to buy VC to compete online.
It's up to the consumer whether they want to pay $60 + dump additional money into their account.

They can download League of Legends for free & optionally buy characters & costumes.

At this point 2K would probably be better served going the FTP (free-to-play) route, but they can't because they don't own the IP. The only reason we're still buying the game is the NBA's billion dollar licensing fee.

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On the other hand, MTX ruin the competitive balance in myteam for people that don't want to buy VC. Then of course you have my(W)Nba, play now and blacktop. So at least for me, the real problem 2k has with MTX is in myteam and I don't play it because of that.
MyTeam is a gacha game. I'm curious how many players actually know what those are and realize they're playing one. 2K certainly hits a different demographic. Just as there are lots of people that dislike RPGs like Final Fantasy but then play MyCareer.

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How do u KNOW these are easy fixes? How many years have u worked in video game development? What is your qualification for making this claim? Just curious


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Dude I'm convinced you work for the 2K marketing department at this point. Good Lawd...

His qualifications are, like the rest of us, he lives in 2020 and we all know what technology can be achieved in 2020. These are easy fixes for a multi million dollar company who makes more money today from microtransactions than they ever have before.

It's not a matter of if they CAN, it's a matter of if they WANT to. In a number of different ways, it's becoming more and more obvious that 2K's focus is on the bells and whistles rather than even fixing obvious flaws in the fundamentals.
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