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Old 06-22-2008, 08:52 PM   #25
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If the owners decided to put a salary cap on incoming players how would the "savings" be passed on to existing players? A cap on rookies salaries would depress the earnings of future free agents. If Matt Ryan is getting 30 mil bonus then imagine what type of money Eli and Rivers will get when their time come. Vets should be happy that the rookies are pushing the salary issue because the high salaries will eventually benefit veteran players.

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if there was to be a rookie salary cap, there would also be a minimum spending cap for the owners. So your scenario would be impossible.

I know you think the rookies not having a cap, is a way for the poor abused players to stick it to the man, but that's simply not true. Nor should a guy who has taken a snap become the highest paid player in the league. Not to mention, a busted first rounder can cripple a team for 3 or 4 years in a cap sense.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:53 PM   #26
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Or the owners could pocket the money. The veterans players salaries wouldn't rise as fast because of the rookie salary cap.
Have you seen what the owners have spent on mediocre FA's this offseason? You free up cap space, the owners will fill it.
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Have you seen what the owners have spent on mediocre FA's this offseason? You free up cap space, the owners will fill it.
Yes, but a rookie salary cap would have a negative impact on how much a veteran player could negotiate. Eli is very, very happy with the Matt Ryan deal.
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If the rookies didn't get the money will the vets end up getting the money, nope. Sound more like jealousy than anything else and I bet when LT signed his rookie contract he was getting paid more than some veteran running backs.
Where is the problem with the proven vets getting the money instead of the possible stud rookie? Couch, Leaf, Mandarich, Bosworth, etc. Would you want to see your team stuck with one of these guys because they got a ridiculous rookie contract?

Meanwhile, you've got guys like Thurman Thomas, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady who WEREN'T first round picks, and ended up earning their contracts.
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Yes, but a rookie salary cap would have a negative impact on how much a veteran player could negotiate. Eli is very, very happy with the Matt Ryan deal.
I bet Eli is even happier about the Roethlisberger deal though.
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if there was to be a rookie salary cap, there would also be a minimum spending cap for the owners. So your scenario would be impossible.

I know you think the rookies not having a cap, is a way for the poor abused players to stick it to the man, but that's simply not true. Nor should a guy who has taken a snap become the highest paid player in the league. Not to mention, a busted first rounder can cripple a team for 3 or 4 years in a cap sense.
Stick it to the man? Huh? Wrong century.

I bet you agents would be against a rookie salary cap but I guess they just want to stick it to the man also. So simple.

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Bush's response isn't terribly surprising, he's never come off as much of a thinker.



Just like taking money while you're in school right? That's just how it works and been that way for a long time so there must not be anything wrong with it. Gives high school athletes something to strive for too, if they're good they can get booster and agent handouts.

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I agree. My problem with Bush's statement was this line:

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I think that it gives college athletes something to strive for. If they’re the top pick they’re going to get the most money.”
Give college athletes something to strive for? Because just playing in the NFL isn't good enough? As of 2007, the minimum salary for an NFL player was $285,000. Anyone here make $285K when they were 22 or 23? I think when I was 23, I was making about 1/7th of that.
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Where is the problem with the proven vets getting the money instead of the possible stud rookie? Couch, Leaf, Mandarich, Bosworth, etc. Would you want to see your team stuck with one of these guys because they got a ridiculous rookie contract?

Meanwhile, you've got guys like Thurman Thomas, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady who WEREN'T first round picks, and ended up earning their contracts.
While players like Eli, Rivers, LT, Ogden, Pace, etc earned their pay.

Increase the salary cap. Let players become true free agents. That is the only way vets are going to make their money.
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