top 5 QB's of all time

[Scottdau]

Elway and the rest are all interchangeable after Elway, in my opinion.

[Kelverin]

1. Joe Montana
2. Otto Graham
3. Bart Starr
4. John Elway
5. Johnny Unitas

Quote: Originally Posted by Alliball

Every time I see one of these threads I come away fairly certain that most of the guys responding never actually saw Elway play.

Or
Sid Luckman
Sammy Baugh
George Blanda
Terry Bradshaw
Len Dawson
Dan Fouts
Otto Graham
Bob Griese
Ken Anderson
Jim Plunkett
Bobby Layne
Johnny Unitas
Roger Staubach
Bart Starr
Y.A. Tittle
Norm Van Brocklin
Sonny Jurgensen
Fran Tarkenton

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Quote: Originally Posted by Motown

No love for Bert Jones?

bert would have been an absolute beast if it wasn't for injuries

[iLLmatic]

No disrespect to any other QB, but the list starts at who is #2 after Joe. He won 4 Super Bowls all types of ways. He won close games and blow outs. Also, how can either Elway or Marino be ahead of Montana when he smoked both Marino and Elway in 2 of those Super Bowls hanging 38 and 55 points on both of em in blowouts. Smoked is not even strong enough. He embarrassed both of them cats on the biggest stage in the world. I tend to look at the complete season and not the dominance of the regular season when judging.

During the regular season you get your cupcakes and easy wins like the Montana did in the lack luster NFC West in the 80's. But what made Montana the best in my eyes though was he always made sure to beat the teams he was supposed to like the Steve Bartkowski led Falcons, the Eric Dickerson led Rams and the Bobby Herbert led Saints, but just so folks didn't think it was the soft competition in the division that got them to the playoffs year after year, he did his most damage in the playoffs where the best teams were as well. Marino was a regular season dynamo and doesn't even make my top 5. Elway had great playoff success and he would be #2 on my list. Regular season MVP trophies, TD passes and passing yard records are nice, but Super Bowls are where legends are made. C'mon Son! Its Joe Montana and everyone else.

1.Montana
2.Elway
3.Unitas
4.Brady
5.Manning

[bkrich83]

For me Elway is easily #1. After that, it's a mish mash of guys. Montana, Marino, etc.

[TheMatrix31]

Limiting to best I've ever seen....

1) Elway
2) Montana
3) Marino
4) Manning
5) Brady

[shnuskis]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kelverin

1. Joe Montana 2. Otto Graham 3. Bart Starr 4. John Elway 5. Johnny Unitas Or Sid Luckman Sammy Baugh George Blanda Terry Bradshaw Len Dawson Dan Fouts Otto Graham Bob Griese Ken Anderson Jim Plunkett Bobby Layne Johnny Unitas Roger Staubach Bart Starr Y.A. Tittle Norm Van Brocklin Sonny Jurgensen Fran Tarkenton

Love it. Great list. I think you are on to something. I do think Brett Favre deserves mention somewhere in there though.

[TheWatcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by hipster.doofus7

Wrong. Terrell Davis was healthy for the first 4 games of the 1999 season. This was with the same roster Elway took to the Superbowl just 8 months before. The same Terrel Davis that gained 2000 yards just 8 months earlier. But without Elway behind center, that same team started 0-4 with a very healthy Terrell Davis. That's what I call getting exposed. (I'm referring to the Denver Broncos team, not Davis specifically) The Broncos' season was already a lost cause before Terrell Davis even suffered his first major injury.

Not wrong.

You're exaggerating the situation to try and minimize Davis. Every RB has slow starts. But Davis was also averaging less than 17 carries per game at the time (this is a fact). I don't know too many backs that put up great numbers averaging 16 or so carries a game in the Pros.

The bottom line is this; of course the Broncos weren't going to be as great without Elway. That's no revelation. And it's no revelation that once your QB is suspect that the defense is going to stack the line to stop the run.

None of that means Davis got "exposed". If that's the case then every running back in the history of football who went through this situation got exposed. I'm sorry, but that argument is a huge misrepresentation.