Aaron Rodgers

[OSUFan_88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy

Who's ahead of him besides Manning and Brees? I really don't see anyone that could be ranked ahead of him besides maybe those two

Quote: Originally Posted by CW McGraw

Roethlisberger.

The overrating of Roethlisberger continues.

I take Rodgers ten times out of ten over Roethlisberger.

[Dog]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

The overrating of Roethlisberger continues. I take Rodgers ten times out of ten over Roethlisberger.

ill take him 11 times out of 10, BAM!

[Hova57]

Quote: Originally Posted by steelcurtain311

I still don't understand why Ben isn't considered top tier. There aren't many QB's in the league with his kind of track record. He's beaten the top teams, the top defenses, won tons of playoff games, won two SB's, won in the clutch time and time again, and he's done it with a horrid offensive line. Their last SB year he had virtually no running game OR offensive line help, and he still won a SB in one of the most **** QB performances in history. His stat lines have been good too, aside from his accident year when he shouldn't have been playing anyways. Maybe not top 5 fantasy stats, which is why I think people view him as a "second tier" guy, which is silly.

this maybe hard for steeler some fans to understand , but many people consider him second teir because in his time in the league he's only had one year where he's thrown for more than 4000 yards , he usually doesn't have a high td stat, been up till last year averaged around 3300 -3500 yards a year. he's one superbowls by managing games. His maturity showed in the last superbowl and through out last season, but compared to his piers he is second teir.

[NinerFan1983]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnes12eaglesfan

fans can be wrong about a lot of things. when the eagles drafted westbrook.. all of the fans thought he was going to get cut, thought he was too small and not good enough to be in the nfl. same goes for trent cole. not one eagles fan (that i know of) thought that trent cole would even be a starter, let alone even make the team. so fans can be wrong and will be wrong about a lot of things. one can never tell anything about a player until you see him on the field for an extended period of time. im sure a lot of raider fans thought jamarcus russell would be and mvp when he was drafted

Agreed.

LOL Regarding JaMarcus Russell, most Raider fans were ready to put him in over Josh McCown his rookie year. I still remember the sign: "JRuss Save Us! McClown Sit DOWN"

[Chrisksaint]

Big Ben has the opposite problem that Rodgers, rivers and brees had for awhile. Ben has the wins and rings to be an top qb but lacks the stats that people want to see

[shnuskis]

Its funny. Just last year I was getting greif for having him in the top ten.

[steelcurtain311]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hova57

this maybe hard for steeler some fans to understand , but many people consider him second teir because in his time in the league he's only had one year where he's thrown for more than 4000 yards , he usually doesn't have a high td stat, been up till last year averaged around 3300 -3500 yards a year. he's one superbowls by managing games. His maturity showed in the last superbowl and through out last season, but compared to his piers he is second teir.

I grasp that, but people said the same line about Brady during his highly successful era. "Oh Manning's better, he puts up the stats." but meanwhile, Brady was the one winning SB's. Then Brady gets Randy Moss and Wes Welker in an off season, and the Pats go to throwing the ball over running it, and Brady has arguably the greatest statistical season ever.

The Steelers system has never been that of throwing the ball. They play hard defense, and they run. Ben complimented that perfectly. But it's not like he's just a game manager. When he's had to throw for 300 yards, he has. He's more than shown he can put up the big yardage when he has to. But on the other hand, he wants to win the game. If that means running the ball, then that's what it means. He's one of the most crazy efficient QB's in the league.

The Packers don't run the ball. The Saints don't run the ball. The Pats don't run the ball. The Colts don't run the ball. Therefore, why shouldn't their QB's be putting up crazy stats?

Funny how someone said they'd take Rodgers over Ben "a million times over", as the one time they faced off, Ben put up 500 yards and won the game on a ridiculous last second throw.

Take your fantasy stats QB's. I'll gladly take the two SB's, and counting, I've watched us win.

[grunt]

Rodgers is already an elite qb. I don't believe in winning playoff games that will come in time. The packers are one those teams I would go out my way and watch. Great offensive play calling and an attacking defense.

I remember few years ago when Bret got hurt in the cowboys game. Cowboys were shutting Green Bay down until Rodgers came in...even then his mobility/pocket awareness was good but for a young qb he was making better decisions than Bret. If he stays healthy the same way we are talking about Brady and Manny, we will talk about Rodgers.

This is what stand out to me about Rodgers he is a strong arm qb that is accurate. We usually see strong arm qbs you can stick them in a vertical passing system. We also see accurate qbs we can stick those guys in wco. I think one of the reason the packers passing game is so good that Rodgers allow them to play both vertical passing game and horizontal passing game. On top of that he throw a catchable ball with touch and add mobility.

Yeah, what I said a few months ago. Rodgers is a joy to watch.