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Madden NFL 16 Roster Update Available Now - Details & Spreadsheet (12-10-15)

06:03 PM - December 10, 2015 by Steve_OS

A new Madden NFL 16 roster update has just arrived. Check out the blog here and the sortable spreadsheet of all changes here.

St. Louis Rams' defensive linemen, Aaron Donald has moved into the 99 overall rated club, joining Marshal Yanda, Von Miller, J.J. Watt, Tyron Smith, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown and Tom Brady,

GOING UP

Cam Newton +2 (97)
Delvin Breaux +5 (82)
Zach Ertz +3 (88)
Allen Robinson +2 (89)
Andy Dalton +2 (90)
Doug Martin +2 (91)
Alex Smith +1 (85)
Antonio Cromartie +1 (85)

GOING DOWN

Ndamukong Suh -2 (96)
Darrelle Revis -5 (90)
Joe Staley -5 (88)
Kyle Williams -3 (89)
Aqib Talib -2 (91)
Dwayne Bowe -4 (76)
Kirko Alonso -1 (83)
Teddy Bridgewater -1 (84)

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# 21 iBlievN5 @ 12/15/15 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheba2011


	I am not sure who determines this top 5 for best players as each week you could pick one of about a dozen guys to receive that honor. You can't cite completion percentage for accuracy?? That is the whole point of completion percentage, it is a measure of a QB's accuracy. The only bias it has, is towards QB's who can complete passes. Let's compare him to the other 4 QB's from the top 5 rushing teams in the NFL, all teams that run a gameplan very similar to Carolina: 1. R. Wilson - 68.8% 2. T. Birdgewater - 65.3% 3. T. Taylor - 63.5% 4. J. Winston - 58.4% Cam is a tremendous all around a weapon, but as an actual QB he is middle of the pack.

Okay, I think its a fact that shorter passes = higher completion percentage. Cam is going deep a ton, combine with the drops. I haven't seen nearly as many straight out bad passes from him this year.

# 22 Sheba2011 @ 12/15/15 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iBlievN5


	Okay, I think its a fact that shorter passes = higher completion percentage. Cam is going deep a ton, combine with the drops. I haven't seen nearly as many straight out bad passes from him this year.

Cam is tied for 13th in passing plays over 20 yards. He is tied for 11th in passing plays over 40 yards. Again he is middle of the pack.

# 23 roadman @ 12/15/15 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iBlievN5


	Okay, I think its a fact that shorter passes = higher completion percentage. Cam is going deep a ton, combine with the drops. I haven't seen nearly as many straight out bad passes from him this year.

If it wasn't for is inaccuracy in the Packer game, the Panthers should have won by 2 or 3 scores. In spite of all that, he is having a great year leading a team that is undefeated.

# 24 Sheba2011 @ 12/16/15 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	If it wasn't for is inaccuracy in the Packer game, the Panthers should have won by 2 or 3 scores. In spite of all that, he is having a great year leading a team that is undefeated.

It's not just that game either. Houston, Seattle, Indy, Jax, TB those games were all close because of his inaccuracy. Cam is a tremendous all around weapon, much like Vick was he is just not that great of a QB. It's fine because Carolina has built their team around his play-making ability, they don't need to rely on his arm. It's hard to translate that into Madden though, so for them to make him a top QB they have to artificially raise his stats into something they shouldn't be.

# 25 richrolla @ 12/17/15 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheba2011


	They are making Cam Newton into something he is not, a great QB. Don't get me wrong he is one of the most dangerous weapons in the game and is a frontrunner for the MVP, but that is because of what he does to extend a play. 16th in the NFL in passing yards and 28th in completion % is not a 97 OVR QB with 88 accuracy.

Stats mean very little in the NFL. Cam is 16th in passing yards because the team doesn't pass much, plus they've been blowing quite a few teams out early, so the need to pass isn't there.

As for the accuracy...Check out who his WR's are.

# 26 Sheba2011 @ 12/18/15 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by richrolla


	Stats mean very little in the NFL. Cam is 16th in passing yards because the team doesn't pass much, plus they've been blowing quite a few teams out early, so the need to pass isn't there. As for the accuracy...Check out who his WR's are.

Stats mean a lot, especially completion % for a QB. It tells you how accurate he is. You can say "look at his WR's" but that just an excuse fans make to mask a bad QB. Good QB's complete passes regardless of who their WR's are. In 2006 Tom Brady had Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and Doug Gabriel has his top WR's, he still completed over his 60% of his passes. Russell Wilson still completes 68% of his passes this year with bad WR's. Cam also has some guy named Greg Olson who is one of the 3 best TE's in the NFL.

# 27 silver281gt @ 12/18/15 01:47 PM

I think if Cam had an Elite WR in a passing offense he wouldnt be ranked 15-16 in passing yards..

# 28 Sheba2011 @ 12/18/15 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by silver281gt


	I think if Cam had an Elite WR in a passing offense he wouldnt be ranked 15-16 in passing yards..

He did have an Elite WR in Steve Smith and when he had him he was able to throw for over 4000 yards. In 2011 he finished 10th in yards. The problem has always been his completion %, that same year he was 18th (lowest among guys who threw for 4000 yards). Here is how he has finished each season in completion %:

2011 - 18th
2012 - 26th
2013 - 16th
2014 - 29th
2015 - 28th

If it was one or two seasons you could say he had a bad year, even HOF QB's have a few bad seasons. But he has never been an accurate QB, even when he had an elite WR in Steve Smith. Great all around player, but not a great QB. There is nothing wrong with that Carolina wins games because of him, but Madden has his accuracy highly overrated because of that.

# 29 richrolla @ 12/19/15 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheba2011


	Stats mean a lot, especially completion % for a QB. It tells you how accurate he is. You can say "look at his WR's" but that just an excuse fans make to mask a bad QB. Good QB's complete passes regardless of who their WR's are. In 2006 Tom Brady had Reche Caldwell, Jabar Gaffney and Doug Gabriel has his top WR's, he still completed over his 60% of his passes. Russell Wilson still completes 68% of his passes this year with bad WR's. Cam also has some guy named Greg Olson who is one of the 3 best TE's in the NFL.

I just feel like there are still so many other things that affect accuracy (pass rush, oline weakness, wind, drops, bad route running, really anything) that it can't be a tell-all statistic. One of many different measures of skill for sure, but doesn't solely define what makes a QB great.

# 30 iBlievN5 @ 12/19/15 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by richrolla


	I just feel like there are still so many other things that affect accuracy (pass rush, oline weakness, wind, drops, bad route running, really anything) that it can't be a tell-all statistic. One of many different measures of skill for sure, but doesn't solely define what makes a QB great.

No one with any critical thinking skill would cite completion percentage as a measure of accuracy. Drops, throwaways, hit while throwing, amounts of screens vs streaks. You have to look at the games. Is Cam Newton a top 5 most accurate QB? No. But he's not rated as such. Is he playing like a top 5 QB right now? Yes.

# 31 Sheba2011 @ 12/21/15 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by iBlievN5


	No one with any critical thinking skill would cite completion percentage as a measure of accuracy. Drops, throwaways, hit while throwing, amounts of screens vs streaks. You have to look at the games. Is Cam Newton a top 5 most accurate QB? No. But he's not rated as such. Is he playing like a top 5 QB right now? Yes.

Is it a perfect way to measure accuracy? Of course not. But it is still an even way to measure it. Every QB in the NFL deals with drops, throwaways, hits while throwing etc. They all play under the same conditions and over the course of an NFL season it levels off. The accurate QB's will still be above 60% regardless of all those excuses. Let's compare arguably the top 4 QB's in the NFL right now and look at Sacks and Drops:

Tom Brady - 34 sacks, 28 drops (leads NFL)
Carson Palmer - 23 sacks, 15 drops
Cam Newton - 27 sacks, 19 drops
Russell Wilson - 40 sacks (3rd in NFL), 10 drops

By your logic Brady's completion percentage should be affected by the fact that he has the most drops of any NFL QB, and get's hit more than most. But he is tied with Carson Palmer at 64.3%, a QB who has less sacks and almost half his drops. Accurate QB's don't need excuses.

Cam is a top 5 offensive weapon in the NFL and will probably win the MVP award, although I would say Palmer deserves it over anyone. But that does not make him an accurate QB. All the excuses in the world won't change that. And simply being an accurate QB doesn't make you a good QB either.

# 32 iBlievN5 @ 12/21/15 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheba2011


	Is it a perfect way to measure accuracy? Of course not. But it is still an even way to measure it. Every QB in the NFL deals with drops, throwaways, hits while throwing etc. They all play under the same conditions and over the course of an NFL season it levels off. The accurate QB's will still be above 60% regardless of all those excuses. Let's compare arguably the top 4 QB's in the NFL right now and look at Sacks and Drops: Tom Brady - 34 sacks, 28 drops (leads NFL) Carson Palmer - 23 sacks, 15 drops Cam Newton - 27 sacks, 19 drops Russell Wilson - 40 sacks (3rd in NFL), 10 drops By your logic Brady's completion percentage should be affected by the fact that he has the most drops of any NFL QB, and get's hit more than most. But he is tied with Carson Palmer at 64.3%, a QB who has less sacks and almost half his drops. Accurate QB's don't need excuses. Cam is a top 5 offensive weapon in the NFL and will probably win the MVP award, although I would say Palmer deserves it over anyone. But that does not make him an accurate QB. All the excuses in the world won't change that. And simply being an accurate QB doesn't make you a good QB either.

Completion percentage does not measure accuracy, it measures how often you complete a pass. There is too much difference between offenses and situations to directly compare completion percentages for accuracy. Does it have some general correlation to accuracy? Sure, but some QBs with >60% accuracy and over 50 passes.

AJ MCARRON, ZACH METTENBERGER, BLAINE GABBERT, EJ MANUEL, CASE KEENUM AND BRANDON WEEDEN.

A couple of these guys are near 70%. Anything you think is in common with these guys? It's clearly not accuracy, but conservative offenses? Maybe.

Also, Tom Brady, Carson Palmer and even Russell Wilson would like complete north of 70% of passes if they had Cam's line and ran their offenses. Russell and Tom throw short a ton of the time and Carson Palmer is a deep ball throwing god so he can do anything.

Point is, unlike your earlier comments. Cam Newton is a good QB. He can be accurate and citing completion percentage does not disprove that. Actually watching the throws he makes would convince you of this.

# 33 KANE699 @ 12/23/15 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds


	Still no Tracy Porter update , F This Plus Crom has been one of the worst DBs this year but he gets a boost over Tracy Porter whose been one of the best cover corners this season .

Tracy Porter is rated 96th overall out of all cornerbacks this year by PFF.

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