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Madden NFL 17 Associate Game Designer, Ryan "RG" Glick and the Madden team have sent us this exclusive blog covering the return of formation subs. Make sure to read it and post your thoughts.

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# 1 NFLfan80 @ 08/09/16 04:40 PM
Wait no special teams? Oh wait punting is probably under offense.
 
# 2 T4VERTS @ 08/09/16 04:42 PM
So because of the mechanic of it coming up under coaching scheme it sounds like it will not work with customs....bummer.
 
# 3 Tatupu_64 @ 08/09/16 04:48 PM
OH HELL YES

It may not be everything we want, but it is enough for me for this year
 
# 4 NotreDomer10 @ 08/09/16 04:49 PM
No WR at RB even though several teams do it in real life every game? makes sense....
 
# 5 Mauer4MVP @ 08/09/16 04:49 PM
Am I reading this right? You can't put a WR at HB? That'd be pretty dumb.

Also looks like you can't put JJ Watt at tight end. Again, pretty dumb.

This honestly kind of defeats the point of the feature for me.
 
# 6 2_headedmonster @ 08/09/16 04:51 PM
This is a lot time coming. Glad it's here.
 
# 7 DiscountCleric @ 08/09/16 04:52 PM
Just me, or are there a bunch of references to the PS2 controls in this blog?
 
# 8 Brooklynbks4 @ 08/09/16 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by NotreDomer10
No WR at RB even though several teams do it in real life every game? makes sense....
Thought the same thing. Had plans to have some wrs in the backfield

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# 9 VinnyVegas28 @ 08/09/16 04:59 PM
Just want to say how much I appreciate the devs for finally adding this feature back in along with fully editable players was a long time coming. THANK YOU

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# 10 khaliib @ 08/09/16 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Brooklynbks4
Thought the same thing. Had plans to have some wrs in the backfield

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Work around is change position to RB, and use AWR rating to fudge the OVR higher to continue holding depth chart position amongst the WR group.

Stats will still tally as a WR etc...

Only problem I can see is if programming won't allow 80's #'s to be in the backfill
 
# 11 Mauer4MVP @ 08/09/16 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by khaliib
Work around is change position to RB, and use AWR rating to fudge the OVR higher to continue holding depth chart position amongst the WR group.

Stats will still tally as a WR etc...

Only problem I can see is if programming won't allow 80's #'s to be in the backfill
The problem is that means this is an incomplete formation subs feature and to be quite frank is kind of ridiculous. Putting a WR at HB should be a basic function in formation subs.

The limitations severely hinder the resource that it can be. It essentially makes the feature pointless for me.
 
# 12 StayPlation82 @ 08/09/16 05:08 PM
if i F-sub two TEs into a 4WR Spread set, will i be able to no huddle into Ace Formation based on personnel? i feel like the Patriots are going to do a lot of this this year. like when they had Hernandez back in the day.
 
# 13 Tengo Juego @ 08/09/16 05:19 PM
The positions being restricted kills all excitement. Sure, now I can finally change personnel groupings per formation. But I can't, without changing positions, put Randall Cobb or Ty Montgomery at RB. Or Morgan Burnett at LB. Because... Balance concerns? Both of these things are going to happen on the field this season.
 
# 14 sportsfan1976 @ 08/09/16 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Am I reading this right? You can't put a WR at HB? That'd be pretty dumb.

Also looks like you can't put JJ Watt at tight end. Again, pretty dumb.

This honestly kind of defeats the point of the feature for me.
I agree its a half *** feature so no one on defense can play on offensive.
 
# 15 DeuceDouglas @ 08/09/16 05:24 PM
Good to see that they will indeed save game-to-game. Like I said in the other thread, I really hope this can pave the way for more personnel features like custom packages. Also they definitely need to find a way to make customs be available in CFM and hopefully that will be the next logical step with this.
 
# 16 DeuceDouglas @ 08/09/16 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tengo Juego
The positions being restricted kills all excitement. Sure, now I can finally change personnel groupings per formation. But I can't, without changing positions, put Randall Cobb or Ty Montgomery at RB. Or Morgan Burnett at LB. Because... Balance concerns? Both of these things are going to happen on the field this season.
Agreed. Not sure why it would be made so restrictive. Since it's only a CFM feature it should have been, at the very least, something a commissioner had control over.
 
# 17 JayD @ 08/09/16 05:28 PM
Dang! I was really hoping we didnt need to use 32 team control to get formation subs. I was hoping the CPU did their own.
 
# 18 CM Hooe @ 08/09/16 05:36 PM
The position restrictions are cumbersome, but I'd rather have formation subs with restrictions than none at all.

If I were to guess, the restrictions are a philosophical holdover from the "cheese preventing" mentality of Gen 2, where everyone clamored very hard for these sorts of things (in particular, WR at TE was a big no-no that people fought hard against, and that's still in place here). Based on the comments here, however, attitudes appear to have shifted on that front.

To be clear, I'm also in the "give us more flexibility" camp, but I can understand the though process for rolling this out initially with the restrictions in place. To be honest, I expected them.

Might be worth checking also - do these restrictions match those of the depth chart and in-game formation substitutions?
 
# 19 Quentin32 @ 08/09/16 05:38 PM
I kno this is about to sound crazy, but this confirmed I'm not getting or playing 17'

I'm tight right now
 
# 20 StayPlation82 @ 08/09/16 05:43 PM
As a work around, does the Green Bay and LA playbooks have the WR at HB package? if so, from the NCAA days just make sure not to change the HB to someone else in that formation sub and you should be able to still use the package. at this point though it's all speculation. not even sure if those packages were in for M16.
 


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