Werewolf 40,000: The Horus Heresy CHAOS DEFEATED; MUTANTS SURVIVE

[Greyroofoo]

It doesn't make sense for the villager twothree to finger someone unless he knows the person is a wolf

[BrianD]

I hate to confuse things more, but what happens if Anxiety is a mutant? We don't know that twothree would spot a mutant in a scan, but what if he can? This would lead to us killing a mutant tonight (semi-good) and human twothree tomorrow (very bad). That would be two more human kills and probably two more human deaths at the hands of the Chaos. That would be a very bad start for us if it happened.

[Alan T]

I hate to confuse things more, but what happens if Anxiety is a mutant? We don't know that twothree would spot a mutant in a scan, but what if he can? This would lead to us killing a mutant tonight (semi-good) and human twothree tomorrow (very bad). That would be two more human kills and probably two more human deaths at the hands of the Chaos. That would be a very bad start for us if it happened.


If Anxiety turns up a mutant, thats suficient for me to not go after twothree. I actually assumed by twothree saying he turned up abnormal it meant he likely was a mutant.

I think Lynching a mutant isn't a bad thing for us.

[GoldenEagle]

I think Lynching a mutant isn't a bad thing for us.

If we do not beat the chaos, we do not win at all.

[Alan T]

If we do not beat the chaos, we do not win at all.


I think lynching a mutant is better than lynching a good guy who can detect mutants.

[BrianD]

If Anxiety turns up a mutant, thats suficient for me to not go after twothree. I actually assumed by twothree saying he turned up abnormal it meant he likely was a mutant.

I think Lynching a mutant isn't a bad thing for us.

It is certainly better than lynching a normal human, but it helps get the Chaos get their ratio. I'd personally like to get a Chaos or two before hitting the mutants, but either is better than another loyal human.

[Alan T]

It is certainly better than lynching a normal human, but it helps get the Chaos get their ratio. I'd personally like to get a Chaos or two before hitting the mutants, but either is better than another loyal human.



I think you and GE are both missing the mark on this one.

If you have a known Chaos you lynch him. no questions
If you have a known Mutant you lynch him if you don't have any surefire Chaos to lynch.

In no case what so ever do you take a gamble on someone else and possibly hit a good villager instead of a known Chaos or a known mutant.


Anything is better than taking a risk at killing a good guy and ignoring a known bad guy.

[twothree]

1 thing that makes me wonder is if he was leaning to voting for grey today, why didn't he scan Grey or GE last night instead of anxiety?

Either way though, only really possible votes I think are based on if you believe twothree or not. if you do, you vote for anxiety, if you don't you vote for twothree.

I think risk/reward though we need to vote for anxiety. If twothree is good and telling the truth, anxiety is bad and needs to die. If Anxiety is good and telling the truth, he's likely a night target soon enough before his power is useful again anyways.

Even though I don't know how much I trust Twothree just yet, I think this vote needs to be on Anxiety.

I was basically scanning people that made me suspicious but that I did not have a clue what faction they might be.

I didn't scan greyroofoo last night because at that time I thought he might be a chaos lord. I did not scan GoldenEagle last night because at that time I thought he might be a villager, or a corrupted villager.

I did not scan you, Alan T, last night because at that time I thought you were a mutant or a misguided villager. I still do. I did not scan saldana because I thought at that time and still do that saldana is a mutant.

All of that is just my opinions and guesses. I scaned Blade on day 1 because I did not have any type of read on him. I scanned Anxiety on day 2 because I did not have any type of read on him.

[BrianD]

I think lynching a mutant is better than lynching a good guy who can detect mutants.

Given those two options, lynching the mutant is better. But should we be looking for a different option?

I still think we should vote to lynch Anxiety, but only because I think the scan will show him being Chaos.

[Mustang]

If we kill all the chaos players before the mutants are dead, does the game end right away.

In that case, this may sound crazy but, let's assume twothree is correct and he has hit upon Anxiety as a Chaos player.. would it be worthwhile to let Anxiety be for the time being and see if twothree can root out a second chaos/mutant player?

Or, if we assume twothree is the seer, do you lynch Anxiety and then leave the second one alone?

Of course, this is if we are wanting a total victory and if the game ends right away which I'm not sure of.

Tangle?

[twothree]

I hate to confuse things more, but what happens if Anxiety is a mutant? We don't know that twothree would spot a mutant in a scan, but what if he can? This would lead to us killing a mutant tonight (semi-good) and human twothree tomorrow (very bad). That would be two more human kills and probably two more human deaths at the hands of the Chaos. That would be a very bad start for us if it happened.

The result of my scan is normal or abnormal. I believe, but am not 100% certain based upon the wording of the PM that abnormal equals chaos or mutant, but that I can't tell which.

If I had a second positive scan to go on. I could compare the two and see if the resulting PM was different for a mutant or for a chaos lord.

[GoldenEagle]

I scaned Blade on day 1 because I did not have any type of read on him.

What did your read on Blade say?

[Alan T]

If we kill all the chaos players before the mutants are dead, does the game end right away.

In that case, this may sound crazy but, let's assume twothree is correct and he has hit upon Anxiety as a Chaos player.. would it be worthwhile to let Anxiety be for the time being and see if twothree can root out a second chaos/mutant player?

Or, if we assume twothree is the seer, do you lynch Anxiety and then leave the second one alone?

Of course, this is if we are wanting a total victory and if the game ends right away which I'm not sure of.

Tangle?


The game ends when all the chaos are dead.

That said if we believe Anxiety is chaos, we lynch him. No good reason to leave a chaos member running around when you haven't lynched anyone but good guys so far.

I think we need to actually kill a chaos or mutant before we start talking at all about leaving them alive to ensure a "total victory"

Anxiety's death will tell us alot about 3 people. GE, Twothree and Anxiety. That is worth his death.

[Mustang]

Anxiety's death will tell us alot about 3 people. GE, Twothree and Anxiety. That is worth his death.

Good point. I wasn't sure about the ending of the game and when that occurs.

[BrianD]

Yes, if Anxiety is Chaos, we have to lynch him. We can be cute with the last Chaos and go for the total victory, but I don't think we can be cute with the first one. Plus, wasn't there something about a Chaos demon in the game as well? Some sort of super-Chaos member? If Anxiety happens to be this super-Chaos guy, killing him will be a big help.

[Fouts]

GE, cronin and I were locked up, so we had nothing to do with Fozzie's death.

You still say that you and grey talked about blade being good, but grey already admitted that was hogwash.

Anxiety is 1 of 3 people that I already distrust due to voting paterns. While I'm not sure why twothree picked anxiety, if he was bluffing, he could easily have picked somebody that was more in the spotlight to say was abnormal.

I won't be pushing for any lynching today, but I will make my vote.

vote Anxiety

[Mustang]

Actually.. forgot to add this in there..

Vote Anxiety

I think that makes it 6 for Anxiety, 1 for twothree and 1 for Sal...

[Mustang]

Oh and.. my choices would be to probably scan Gray or Sal..

[twothree]

What did your read on Blade say?

I did not have a read on him, I was just suspicious of him, but could not place him in any faction in my mind, that is why I scanned him. If you are refering to the scan I did on Blade, that came back that he was Normal.

That is why I jumped to Blade's defense. My first scan of a normal player, and the very next day, saldana casts the very first vote for someone I now knew was normal. And, saldana had cast the first vote for realdeal. Either saldana was incredibly bad at guessing who the chaos lords/mutants were, or he himself was one.

I wasn't going to be around all day, but Blade said he had evidence that would support his case. So I went with Blade, again the only person I knew who was normal, and voted for saldana.

[Fouts]

I did not have a read on him, I was just suspicious of him, but could not place him in any faction in my mind, that is why I scanned him. If you are refering to the scan I did on Blade, that came back that he was Normal.

That is why I jumped to Blade's defense. My first scan of a normal player, and the very next day, saldana casts the very first vote for someone I now knew was normal. And, saldana had cast the first vote for realdeal. Either saldana was incredibly bad at guessing who the chaos lords/mutants were, or he himself was one.

I wasn't going to be around all day, but Blade said he had evidence that would support his case. So I went with Blade, again the only person I knew who was normal, and voted for saldana.

If this was the case, why didn't you scan saldana?

[Fouts]

One thing that is still bugging me - saldana said he followed somebody that met with blade, but blade said he never left his room. saldana won't say who he followed. Yet, we are giving saldana a pass because of Alan.

Another thing is the peculiar relationship between grey and GE.

[tanglewood]

If we kill all the chaos players before the mutants are dead, does the game end right away.

Yes.

[Alan T]

One thing that is still bugging me - saldana said he followed somebody that met with blade, but blade said he never left his room. saldana won't say who he followed. Yet, we are giving saldana a pass because of Alan.

Another thing is the peculiar relationship between grey and GE.


I think the biggest thing that puzzles me is there sure are alot of people with roles roaming around at nights. If twothree is telling the truth, then what the heck was Grey and GE up to? I guess things are explained easier in my head if twothree ends up lying about being seer. If thats the case, we will deal with it tommorrow.

[tanglewood]

Current Vote Count Day 3

Anxiety 9 - twothree, AlanT, BrianD, saldana, path12, kingfc22, Fouts, Mustang, st.cronin
twothree 1 - GoldenEagle

Yet To Vote: Greyroofoo, bulletsponge, Anxiety, Chief Rum, Swaggs

Correct to post below.

[st.cronin]

VOTE ANXIETY

I'm still suspicious of pretty much everybody except SirFozzie and Blade. Anxiety would have been high on my list of people to scan, as well.

[BrianD]

I think the biggest thing that puzzles me is there sure are alot of people with roles roaming around at nights. If twothree is telling the truth, then what the heck was Grey and GE up to? I guess things are explained easier in my head if twothree ends up lying about being seer. If thats the case, we will deal with it tommorrow.

Let's not forget that you seem to be roaming around at night too. Sounds like there could be lots of people with the ability to learn things about others...

[Alan T]

VOTE ANXIETY

I'm still suspicious of pretty much everybody except SirFozzie and Blade. Anxiety would have been high on my list of people to scan, as well.

You don't trust realdeal? :)

[Alan T]

Let's not forget that you seem to be roaming around at night too. Sounds like there could be lots of people with the ability to learn things about others...


I think you're confused about me. I've asked to be locked up tonight anyways. I am pretty sure that either twothree or GE are lying. I highly doubt both are lying about the seer.

[st.cronin]

You don't trust realdeal? :)

Well, him too, I guess. But that's as far as my circle of trust goes.

[BrianD]

I think you're confused about me. I've asked to be locked up tonight anyways. I am pretty sure that either twothree or GE are lying. I highly doubt both are lying about the seer.

[quote=path12]Alan visited me last night. I believe he now realizes I am completely loyal to the Emperor.[/b]

So you weren't out roaming around?

[BrianD]

dola, fixing my bad tags.

Alan visited me last night. I believe he now realizes I am completely loyal to the Emperor.

So you weren't out roaming around?

[twothree]

If this was the case, why didn't you scan saldana?

If you are refering to scanning him on night 1, I was not suspicious of him and he seemed like a villager to me. Blade was more suspicious in my eyes.

If you are refering to scanning him on night 2, I thought he was a chaos lord or a mutant, after he got Blade killed. I thought I would be dead in the morning. So, following my strategy, I looked to scan someone who was suspicious to me, but that I could not place in any faction.

[Alan T]

dola, fixing my bad tags.



So you weren't out roaming around?


What path says is true, I firmly trust path's loyalty to our emperor.

I still think you are confused about me though. I do think I have an idea who our seer is, but I won't say which of the people I mentioned a few times today before already I think it is.

I still think I should be locked up tonight with St.Cronin. I do not have any need to be out and about tonight.

[st.cronin]

dola, fixing my bad tags.



So you weren't out roaming around?


After the Blade fiasco, I don't think it's worth reading anything into that.

[BrianD]

After the Blade fiasco, I don't think it's worth reading anything into that.

I wasn't reading anything into his roaming around, I'm just surprised he didn't include himself with those that were roaming around.

[BrianD]

I still think you are confused about me though.

I feel like I'm being dumb and missing a subtle clue here. :)

[twothree]

Current Vote Count Day 3

Anxiety 9 - twothree, AlanT, BrianD, saldana, path12, kingfc22, Fouts, Mustang, st.cronin
twothree 1 - GoldenEagle

Yet To Vote: Greyroofoo, bulletsponge, Anxiety, Chief Rum, Swaggs

Correct to post below.

In post #902, Chief Rum voted for saldana, it did occur before the night action was written.

[Alan T]

I feel like I'm being dumb and missing a subtle clue here. :)

No, I don't think you're missing a clue at all. I just am not as important as I thought you were hinting at. So far this game I'm just another villager who happened across some lucky clues and read them entirely wrong to help kill another villager. I barely know any more about whats going on then anyone else.

I do however have a couple of people who I will defend at least right now to keep them from getting lynched. Yesterday unfortunatly just hit on one of them.

[st.cronin]

Question: Does anybody have a feel for why Foz was axed last night? Wouldn't GE or AlanT or path have been better targets, if they were in fact human?

[st.cronin]

dola

I'm out til probably tomorrow AM.

[Alan T]

Question: Does anybody have a feel for why Foz was axed last night? Wouldn't GE or AlanT or path have been better targets, if they were in fact human?


I think fozzie hinted several times yesterday he was pretty important and if GE had a role like his, he might be important too. My guess was they wanted to pick off someone who was under the radar, human and important. Both GE and I have some heat on us, and many people don't know if they should trust either or both of us.

For instance, I still don't know if I should believe twothree or GE or if there is some possible way in this universe they both might be telling the truth.

[twothree]

Question: Does anybody have a feel for why Foz was axed last night? Wouldn't GE or AlanT or path have been better targets, if they were in fact human?

I figured since the start, just going by role descriptions, and if they were all villagers, that...

The Inquisitor General of Ordo Hereticus - SirFozzie
The Inquisitor General of Ordo Malleus - GoldenEagle
and myself
The Master of the Astronomican - twothree

would be the major targets by chaos and the mutants.

[Alan T]

I figured since the start, just going by role descriptions, and if they were all villagers, that...

The Inquisitor General of Ordo Hereticus - SirFozzie
The Inquisitor General of Ordo Malleus - GoldenEagle
and myself
The Master of the Astronomican - twothree

would be the major targets by chaos and the mutants.

Well thats why I am unsure about Goldeneagle. I still think night 1 there had to have been a conversion. GE seems as likely a target as any. They convert GE night 1, knock off fozzie night 2 makes sense to me.

[GoldenEagle]

Alan T, if you are the human seer you need to come forward and say that you are.

[Alan T]

Alan T, if you are the human seer you need to come forward and say that you are.


If I was the seer, why would I be arguing to lynch Anxiety all day?

I think I would be much quieter if I was the seer. I tend to die day 2-3 every game either by my own team or by wolves because of how much I talk.

I feel bad for the game where I actually am the seer, I think we'd likely lose as I die day 2.

[Alan T]

Alan T, if you are the human seer you need to come forward and say that you are.


Actually the more I think about this.. you've been pushing to try to get twothree lynched all day. I still am giving twothree the benefit of the doubt, and I think you and grey likely will be my votes tommorrow unless someone comes up with something tonight to make me feel otherwise.

[Alan T]

Alan T, if you are the human seer you need to come forward and say that you are.


Sorry for the triple-dola... but I'm typing this as I am trying to piece it together in my mind.

My timeline today:

Twothree says he is the seer. I think its kind of early for a wolf to do a 1-1 swap just to get anxiety killed, so give twothree the benefit of the doubt and assume he is the seer.

GE says he knows who the seer is and its not twothree. I assume if GE is not lying he is refering to either himself or Grey. Even though Grey and he still have not gotten their story straight, still havent explained anything.. but maybe just maybe they are trying to hide something to keep the real seer from being killed.

Now with GE asking questions that he previously said he knew the answer to makes me think he was just blowing smoke about twothree if not to save Anxiety, then to at least try to get us to lynch our seer. Right now I think we kill Anxiety first, then go after greyfooroo as I bet he is more dangerous than GE.

Maybe I'm wrong again, this is just a hunch based on how GE has been so all over the place so far. I was wrong about Blade, might be wrong here too.. but GE is really erratic right now.

[Fouts]

What path says is true, I firmly trust path's loyalty to our emperor.

I still think you are confused about me though. I do think I have an idea who our seer is, but I won't say which of the people I mentioned a few times today before already I think it is.

I still think I should be locked up tonight with St.Cronin. I do not have any need to be out and about tonight.

If you are visiting and clearing people every night (which I am starting to doubt), why would we lock you up??? I say don't lock him up, he keeps clearing people. Eventually, Alan will find all the good guys for us.

Unless of course, your CoT ends at 3 people. A nice number.

[BrianD]

As I see it, we have 3 people claiming specific knowledge about people. GE told us that Grey told him Blade was clean. Path and Alan agreed that Alan visited Path and confirms he is clean. Twothree claims to have scanned Anxiety to see that he is "abnormal". There are a lot of people sneaking around and learning about others. I'm still wondering if these three groups of people represent the three teams in the game, or if there are multiple humans learning about each other and causing some damaging paranoia.

[Alan T]

If you are visiting and clearing people every night (which I am starting to doubt), why would we lock you up??? I say don't lock him up, he keeps clearing people. Eventually, Alan will find all the good guys for us.

Unless of course, your CoT ends at 3 people. A nice number.

I think I should be locked up with St.cronin tonight.

[Fouts]

I think I should be locked up with St.cronin tonight.

I think you'll get your wish, as you have path in your back pocket.

[Fouts]

Why wouldn't you lobby for twothree to be locked up?

[Alan T]

Why wouldn't you lobby for twothree to be locked up?

If he is telling the truth, he does us no good locked up as he wont be able to perform his role.

If he is lying, I don't want him locked up with me.

[Fouts]

If he is telling the truth, he does us no good locked up as he wont be able to perform his role.

If he is lying, I don't want him locked up with me.

What about your role?

[Alan T]

What about your role?

Me being locked up won't affect me in any way tonight.

[Fouts]

Me being locked up won't affect me in any way tonight.

Ok, then we'll expect a cleared member tomorrow.

[Abe Sargent]

It doesn't make sense for the villager twothree to finger someone unless he knows the person is a wolf



I'm getting caught up on today's post, but this strikes me as noteworhy, because he doesn;t know I'm a wolf. He just knows I'm different. I submit that my difference is due to my psyker nature. Or he's lying.

[Alan T]

Ok, then we'll expect a cleared member tomorrow.


I wish I could do that. THere are alot of things I wish right now... one of them is that I wasn't so confused about this game.

[Fouts]

I wish I could do that. THere are alot of things I wish right now... one of them is that I wasn't so confused about this game.

You seem to know an awful lot for somebody who is confused. You can visit somebody EVERY night and find out their loyalty. Now that you have cleared two other members, you want to be locked up. You say it will not affect your role, but you obviously visit them.

There are clearly some people grouping up. Alan, saldana, and path. Grey, GE and Anxiety. The rest of us have to trust anyone with info, because these other guys are clearly shady people.

[Fouts]

So much for me being quiet. Luckily, I have nothing to lose.

[Abe Sargent]

I guess I have to vote for twothree

Vote Twothree

[Alan T]

So much for me being quiet. Luckily, I have nothing to lose.


haha, every game I play I say Im going to be quieter and see if I can live longer... I never do :)

[Fouts]

haha, every game I play I say Im going to be quieter and see if I can live longer... I never do :)

Yeah, might as well get some enjoyment out of it before we get lynched.

[Alan T]

I guess I have to vote for twothree

Vote Twothree


Your arguement this morning was you didnt think Twothree was lying, just that his scan on you was messed up by your good person ability.

Now when you have a chance of putting a vote on 1 of two other people who have 1 vote already (Twothree or Saldana) you put your vote on the person who you said you don't think is lying about being the seer?

[Fouts]

Alan, if you are no longer clearing people for us, you offer less than I do to the villagers.

[Abe Sargent]

About as much as Anxiety has done. Though twothree didn't come out with a convenient story of "knowing" that Blade was good but forgetting to mention it. I understand the headache (hope he doesn't suffer from migraines..they suck) and busy schedule, but it just seems to convenient. Any one of the non-voters could say that they knew Blade was good but forgot to mention it.


When I played a wolf before, I learned never to mix lies with lies, always couch lies with truth. If I were a wolf, no way I'd make up a lame story, I'd do another fake role reveal or something more convincing. I just don't have anything like that.

I could, as evidence, provide my work schedule and show how a headache (which wasn't major or anything, just annoying, thanks for asking :) ) plus my amazingly crappy trainign schedule has rui9ned my whole week. I couldn't find a couple of hours to write my regular Magic column this week and had to find a substitute. My dynasty hasn't been updated much. Now, if I'm not doing those things, a WW game shouldn't be all that much either. For further evidence of my busy schedule this week, see the opening posts on page one by myself. I'm uber busy through check in here at my residence hall at EMU on Saturday. Then, once I've moved in 500 freshmen in four hours, it'll be much easier.

[Abe Sargent]

Your arguement this morning was you didnt think Twothree was lying, just that his scan on you was messed up by your good person ability.

Now when you have a chance of putting a vote on 1 of two other people who have 1 vote already (Twothree or Saldana) you put your vote on the person who you said you don't think is lying about being the seer?


I said he is EITHER screwed up or lying, and I've said that since this morning. How do I know which? I have an explanation for the screwed up one, but lying is just as likely.

[BrianD]

Me being locked up won't affect me in any way tonight.

Would you be so eager to be locked up if you were in there alone?

[Greyroofoo]

vote anxiety

unless i get a good reason why I shouldn't

[Alan T]

Alan, if you are no longer clearing people for us, you offer less than I do to the villagers.


I never said I offer alot to the villagers. I actually think probably alot of people seem to have cool abilities compared to me. I do think though that I should be locked up with St.cronin tonight.

[Abe Sargent]

As evidence that my story all along has either been he's wrong OR he's lying, and I'm not changing my tune, here is a quote from an earlier post: (bold added)


If you are going to vote for me based on what twothree said, I can accept that, although I think his scan is off, if he has a scan at all. But don;t do it because you think I'm quiet and that's unusual or not helpful.

-Anxiety



Check in for early move ins today began 15 minutes ago at my front desk. I can be away for a bit, since I'm the supervisor, but I gotta go. It ends at 8, so I'll be back around then.

[Fouts]

I never said I offer alot to the villagers. I actually think probably alot of people seem to have cool abilities compared to me. I do think though that I should be locked up with St.cronin tonight.

Now you are acting like GE. This is a weird game.

[Alan T]

Would you be so eager to be locked up if you were in there alone?

I would rather be locked up alone, then not locked up.

Luckily we have 2 slots though, so no need for me to not have some company.

[BrianD]

When I played a wolf before, I learned never to mix lies with lies, always couch lies with truth. If I were a wolf, no way I'd make up a lame story, I'd do another fake role reveal or something more convincing. I just don't have anything like that.

I could, as evidence, provide my work schedule and show how a headache (which wasn't major or anything, just annoying, thanks for asking :) ) plus my amazingly crappy trainign schedule has rui9ned my whole week. I couldn't find a couple of hours to write my regular Magic column this week and had to find a substitute. My dynasty hasn't been updated much. Now, if I'm not doing those things, a WW game shouldn't be all that much either. For further evidence of my busy schedule this week, see the opening posts on page one by myself. I'm uber busy through check in here at my residence hall at EMU on Saturday. Then, once I've moved in 500 freshmen in four hours, it'll be much easier.

I don't doubt your headache or your busy schedule. I didn't mean they were convenient, just that your story was convenient. I'm also glad the headache was just on the annoying scale. I used to get really bad migraines (better now that I'm on drugs :) ), and I feel for anyone with them.

As far as crazy reveals go, I've used them in the past with varying success. If you come up with something crazy, you can't accidentaly reveal a role that someone else has. I'd love to ask you to test your abillity again, but I haven't thought up a test that would actually be conclusive...

[Fouts]

C'mon saldana, explain your spying on blade, but his story checking out. Also, who did you spy on last night? You are awfully quiet.

[Alan T]

Now you are acting like GE. This is a weird game.


The difference though is right now Im starting to think GE was converted and is trying to throw us off. Where I'm just confused/confusing, but good.

[BrianD]

I would rather be locked up alone, then not locked up.

Luckily we have 2 slots though, so no need for me to not have some company.

You just seem to be pushing so hard to be locked up with st.cronin, not just locked up in general. I haven't seen anything from him which makes him worth a special visit, and there are plenty of other interesting people to have a chat with, so why push so hard from him? Is it because he has such great knowledge of the emperor's throne?

[path12]

I think you'll get your wish, as you have path in your back pocket.

:confused: Do you not remember me pushing hard against you, Saldana and Alan yesterday?

[BrianD]

C'mon saldana, explain your spying on blade, but his story checking out. Also, who did you spy on last night? You are awfully quiet.

I would also like to hear from Saldana today. Did he follow a mysterious "nobody" last night and see anyone else?

[twothree]

I said he is EITHER screwed up or lying, and I've said that since this morning. How do I know which? I have an explanation for the screwed up one, but lying is just as likely.

Well, since I know I am not lying. I would love to hear you explaination (again?). Sorry, about you schedule. You probably will have another headache, after dealing with all those freshman.

[Alan T]

You just seem to be pushing so hard to be locked up with st.cronin, not just locked up in general. I haven't seen anything from him which makes him worth a special visit, and there are plenty of other interesting people to have a chat with, so why push so hard from him? Is it because he has such great knowledge of the emperor's throne?

I don't know anything about St.cronin in this game. He seems like a nice guy though.

[Fouts]

C'mon saldana, don't make me duke you.

[Abe Sargent]

I don't doubt your headache or your busy schedule. I didn't mean they were convenient, just that your story was convenient. I'm also glad the headache was just on the annoying scale. I used to get really bad migraines (better now that I'm on drugs :) ), and I feel for anyone with them.

As far as crazy reveals go, I've used them in the past with varying success. If you come up with something crazy, you can't accidentaly reveal a role that someone else has. I'd love to ask you to test your abillity again, but I haven't thought up a test that would actually be conclusive...


If you'd be willing to keep me around until Day Four, when I can use my ability again, I'd be happy to provide any test you desire.

BTW, tangle said I could only use my ability every three days, but he then told me I could use my ability again on Day Four despite the fact I used it on two, so it may be every other day, and not every third day.

[Alan T]

C'mon saldana, don't make me duke you.


Please don't do that. I also want to know what in the world happened with the discrepency between Blade and Saldana yesterday, but duking him would just set us back a day and cause us to have to go through the whole Anxiety vs twothree thing again tommorrow without anything learned.

[Abe Sargent]

Well, since I know I am not lying. I would love to hear you explaination (again?). Sorry, about you schedule. You probably will have another headache, after dealing with all those freshman.


I like residents :) That's why I'm in the 12th year of my job working in housing (RA, Grad, Now 6th year as a Complex Director)

[saldana]

C'mon saldana, explain your spying on blade, but his story checking out. Also, who did you spy on last night? You are awfully quiet.

i was trying to catch up on the 4 pages since i came to work, i know have been quiet today, which is twofold...1) i have been working double shifts all week, and 2) no one is going to believe anything i have to say anyway.

i have no information from last night, and as far as explaining what happened yesterday, i will try to explain tomorrow.....please just trust me on that one point.

as far as the situation today goes, if you go back yesterday, twothree did come out in support of blade, after which i posted that i considered that to be interesting and would consider moving my vote if blade could explain his inconsistencies....i believe twothree did exactly what he says he did on night 1, which is why i have no reason to doubt his call out on anxiety today.

[Fouts]

If you'd be willing to keep me around until Day Four, when I can use my ability again, I'd be happy to provide any test you desire.

BTW, tangle said I could only use my ability every three days, but he then told me I could use my ability again on Day Four despite the fact I used it on two, so it may be every other day, and not every third day.

Looked to me that you used it on night 2 and night 3. That would be every night.

[Fouts]

That should be night 1 (saldana) and night 2 (path).

[twothree]

I like residents :) That's why I'm in the 12th year of my job working in housing (RA, Grad, Now 6th year as a Complex Director)

Impressive. I imagine that's a fun and rewarding job.

[path12]

i have no information from last night, and as far as explaining what happened yesterday, i will try to explain tomorrow.....please just trust me on that one point.

Why tomorrow? Why not today?

[saldana]

dola, i will be in and out the rest of the night as always inbetween crap at work...i promise to explain myself from yesterday tomorrow.

[Fouts]

Please don't do that. I also want to know what in the world happened with the discrepency between Blade and Saldana yesterday, but duking him would just set us back a day and cause us to have to go through the whole Anxiety vs twothree thing again tommorrow without anything learned.

He keeps sitting in the thread without saying a word. What does that tell you?

[path12]

That should be night 1 (saldana) and night 2 (path).

I think you're getting Anxiety mixed up with Alan there.

[Alan T]

Looked to me that you used it on night 2 and night 3. That would be every night.


I was about to bring that up too. I think there are alot of holes in Anxiety's story right now. I still think if he is telling the truth, he's going to be the wolf's target anyways before he gets another chance to use it.

I still see no reason to not lynch him today to learn about twothree.

[saldana]

Why tomorrow? Why not today?

if i do, can you put me in jail tonight?

[BrianD]

I don't know anything about St.cronin in this game. He seems like a nice guy though.

Which is sort of my point...


I think you should put me in there with St.cronin


I still think I should be locked up tonight with St.Cronin. I do not have any need to be out and about tonight.


I think I should be locked up with St.cronin tonight.


I do think though that I should be locked up with St.cronin tonight.

Quite persistent.

[Fouts]

i was trying to catch up on the 4 pages since i came to work, i know have been quiet today, which is twofold...1) i have been working double shifts all week, and 2) no one is going to believe anything i have to say anyway.

i have no information from last night, and as far as explaining what happened yesterday, i will try to explain tomorrow.....please just trust me on that one point.

as far as the situation today goes, if you go back yesterday, twothree did come out in support of blade, after which i posted that i considered that to be interesting and would consider moving my vote if blade could explain his inconsistencies....i believe twothree did exactly what he says he did on night 1, which is why i have no reason to doubt his call out on anxiety today.

I didn't see this post. I can't understand why villagers are being so secretive. This is why the bad guys win.

Somehow everything will be okay on day four. Whatever.

[Alan T]

Why tomorrow? Why not today?


I think there are alot of things that need to be allowed time to develop. Thats why my first post of the day was asking people please just be patient. I think we have a clear cut lynch target today, and lets see what happens tonight before we bark down trees for tommorrow.

[Fouts]

I was about to bring that up too. I think there are alot of holes in Anxiety's story right now. I still think if he is telling the truth, he's going to be the wolf's target anyways before he gets another chance to use it.

I still see no reason to not lynch him today to learn about twothree.

My bad, I thought Anxiety's post was you posting. Ignore what I said.

[Alan T]

if i do, can you put me in jail tonight?

I personally would rather you just wait for tommorrow so St.cronin and I can be in there tonight.. If there is some reason you need it instead then so be it. I'll stay out tonight. But I know what my preference is!

[BrianD]

I'm still ok with the Anxiety lynch today, but I'm going to strongly vote against putting Alan in the cell with st.cronin. He wants it way too much.

[Fouts]

I think you're getting Anxiety mixed up with Alan there.

Yes, I did. Thanks.

[twothree]

It does take awhile to read all the messages, once you have been gone for any amount of time.

[saldana]

He keeps sitting in the thread without saying a word. What does that tell you?

that i was reading?

[Fouts]

I personally would rather you just wait for tommorrow so St.cronin and I can be in there tonight.. If there is some reason you need it instead then so be it. I'll stay out tonight. But I know what my preference is!

I'd rather he didn't. I have st. cronin on high trust, and you are shady. Why would we feed st. cronin to you?

[Fouts]

that i was reading?

Yep. So tell us who you were following, and why did you say blade was out when he wasn't.

[Alan T]

I'd rather he didn't. I have st. cronin on high trust, and you are shady. Why would we feed st. cronin to you?


Because I haven't "eaten" anyone yet? :)

[BrianD]

Because I haven't "eaten" anyone yet? :)

...that we know of...

[Abe Sargent]

Looked to me that you used it on night 2 and night 3. That would be every night.


I think some of you guys are just confused, are you reading my posts? Hell, I can understand voting for me when someone says "Im a seer and he's different than us" but geez, at least read the posts. Here is the post, quoted vertbautm for you, where I directly outline my soothsayer role. I'll bold the important points for you to check.

Well, twothree, I guess I need to role reveal now :)

Because of my super-psyker abilities, I am a soothsayer, or whatever that role is usually called. (It was called soothsayer in my only other game that used it). I can analyze any statement made and check it against whatthe person beleives.

Yesterday, I asked Blade to verify in a post whether he was chaos or a mutant. He said that he was not. I then asked tangle to use that as my Psyker ability and he agreed. It came back that Blade beleived his statement.

Unfortunately, due to a headache and my severe training schedule this week, I feel asleep last night without being able to save Blade and I didn;t awaken until a little after four this morning.

I beleive I scanned as abnormal because of my psyker status. My limited understanding of this universe and my role info seems to indicate that humans with psyker abilities (which I am the head psyker) have an altered status. I believe that is what you sensed.

However, I wouldn't blame you for thinking otherwise. I have nobody to confirm my role, since I am only the soothsayer, and I can't use my ability again for three days.

-Anxiety


I never used it more than once. I skipped Day One because I didn;t know enough about people at the time. On Day Two, I truthed Blade. I get to do it again on Day Four (2, 3, 4 being the three days according to tangle's pm).

[saldana]

Yep. So tell us who you were following, and why did you say blade was out when he wasn't.


not saying this to be a prick, but you are gonna have to wait, at least til later tonight....i have to get a little bit of work done while my boss is still here....i am only on my lunch break right now, but after she leaves, i will be able to post more.

[Fouts]

I think some of you guys are just confused, are you reading my posts? Hell, I can understand voting for me when someone says "Im a seer and he's different than us" but geez, at least read the posts. Here is the post, quoted vertbautm for you, where I directly outline my soothsayer role. I'll bold the important points for you to check.




I never used it more than once. I skipped Day One because I didn;t know enough about people at the time. On Day Two, I truthed Blade. I get to do it again on Day Four (2, 3, 4 being the three days according to tangle's pm).

Sorry, I had you confused with Alan because we were sparring. I still don't trust you. I didn't like your voting patterns, and your role hasn't helped us. I don't like your explaination for how your role works.

[Fouts]

not saying this to be a prick, but you are gonna have to wait, at least til later tonight....i have to get a little bit of work done while my boss is still here....i am only on my lunch break right now, but after she leaves, i will be able to post more.

Maybe I won't wait.

[Swaggs]

Home and checking in.

Might take me a bit to get caught up.

[twothree]

Anxiety,

Were you visited by anyone last night? It might be possible that the Astronomican picked up a reading from them instead of you.

[twothree]

dola

I should state I don't believe it is possible, but I just wanted to try an rule out another possibility.

[Swaggs]

The fact that we are going up against two factions throws me off a bit as far as developing a circle of trust. I think tonight looks like an either/or night for Anxiety or twothree. But, in the back of my mind, I am thinking that even if Anxiety ends up being chaos, twothree could still be a mutant.

[Swaggs]

I guess I feel like, whether mutant or not, twothree wouldn't put his previously under-the-radar behind under the gun unless he was telling the truth about Anxiety.

Vote Anxiety.

[path12]

if i do, can you put me in jail tonight?

I'm not promising jail tonight for anybody. I've got more potentials than spots. But if it becomes clear you need it, I'm willing. I need to start figuring out some priorities for this.

[path12]

I have st. cronin on high trust

May I ask why? You're the second player to trust cronin (I think King is the other). I'm protecting him because so far I'm unwilling to lose his role, but I can't say I trust him.

[Fouts]

May I ask why? You're the second player to trust cronin (I think King is the other). I'm protecting him because so far I'm unwilling to lose his role, but I can't say I trust him.

His actions so far in the game. Plus, nothing happened last night in the jail.

[path12]

His actions so far in the game. Plus, nothing happened last night in the jail.

Well, anything happening in the jail at night would seem to be a suicidal move and I don't think we're far enough in the game for that to be worth it. I guess we can agree to disagree on the views of his actions.

[Fouts]

I had 3 people on my trust list, but 1 died last night (Foz). I won't say who the other is, but the reason is just by feel. I have no seer ability.

Path, please expand on your interaction with Alan last night. Blade posted a pretty big writeup for his night action. Did yours only say you were visited by Alan and he is convinced of your loyalty to the empire? Sounds kind of out there, but I know that Alan and saldana have set up this situation beforehand.

[path12]

Path, please expand on your interaction with Alan last night. Blade posted a pretty big writeup for his night action. Did yours only say you were visited by Alan and he is convinced of your loyalty to the empire? Sounds kind of out there, but I know that Alan and saldana have set up this situation beforehand.

Without getting too verbatim: I returned to my room last night after locking up you and cronin and immediately fell asleep exhausted. I was awoken by AlanT who had come into my room and who was insistent on proving my faith in the Emperor's cause. I responded with my sincere beliefs about serving the Imperium which apparently was not what he asked for. Eventually my conviction wins him over and he leaves satisfied that I am loyal to the Emperor. I laid awake for awhile trying to figure out what the encounter meant and eventually went back to sleep.

That's it.

[bulletsponge]

i dont want to read 5 pages, im tired. someone summerize plz

[path12]

i dont want to read 5 pages, im tired. someone summerize plz

twothree says that Anxiety is bad. GE doesn't trust twothree. AlanT wants to be locked up. Saldana is holding info until tomorrow. Many of us are confused.

How's that?

[Abe Sargent]

Anxiety,

Were you visited by anyone last night? It might be possible that the Astronomican picked up a reading from them instead of you.


I wish I could say yes, but I would be lying.

[saldana]

i dont want to read 5 pages, im tired. someone summerize plz

twothree says he has a seer like role that can tell if some one is normal or abnormal....he says he scanned anxiety last night and it came up abnormal...anxiety says it came up that way because he is a soothsayer (psyker) and can tell the truth from one persons post every 3 days...he says since he is a psyker, he would come up abnormal....goldeneagle says that twothree is bullshit, but cant really give any evidence to prove it, and fouts is thinking about duking me because i asked to not have to explain yesterdays fuck up with blade until tomorrow.

[saldana]

dola, everone except ge and anxiety are voting for anxiety (i dont think tangle is counting Chief Rum's vote for me at 8am)

[GoldenEagle]

Twothree is retracting on all of his statements. I feel like we are going to lynch an innocent man tonight.

[bulletsponge]

23 are you retractin you "abnormal" staement about anxiety? are you unsure bout him now?

sorry im not into it today, getting home at 5 sucks ass, how do all the people do it???

[twothree]

Twothree is retracting on all of his statements. I feel like we are going to lynch an innocent man tonight.

I stand by all my statements. I am just trying to explore possible alternatives and gather extra information.

[twothree]

23 are you retractin you "abnormal" staement about anxiety? are you unsure bout him now?

sorry im not into it today, getting home at 5 sucks ass, how do all the people do it???


I am 100% sure that Anxiety is abnormal, which to me equals either being chaos or a mutant.

[Alan T]

I am 100% sure that Anxiety is abnormal, which to me equals either being chaos or a mutant.


If you are telling the truth, and its a big if.. my guess is Anxiety will show up as a mutant.

[Fouts]

If you are telling the truth, and its a big if.. my guess is Anxiety will show up as a mutant.

Why a mutant?

[twothree]

I have no ideal what he will show up as. I just know that he's not normal, that is the only fact that I know. I don't know ANY other information. And, I don't trust anyone except for the three villagers that have already died.

I probably trust path the most, maybe 70%, because he revealed he knew I had to goto the Astronomican in order to use it.

Also, I am beinging to suspect that Anxiety, might have been recruited my a mutant/chaos agent last night. Just like Goldeneagle possibly was on night 1. No proof, just a hunch.

[Alan T]

Why a mutant?


dunno, just a guess actually based on what twothree has been saying. Right now I think I'm leaning towards really believing him when he says he is the seer.

[path12]

Amazing how GE and Grey have disappeared from the radar screen today.

[Alan T]

Amazing how GE and Grey have disappeared from the radar screen today.



if they keep avoiding the questions we are asking, maybe we will just forget that we all suspect them? :)

[GoldenEagle]

Amazing how GE and Grey have disappeared from the radar screen today.

How have I disappeared? Are you kidding? I probably have the most posts of anyone today besides Alan T.

[path12]

if they keep avoiding the questions we are asking, maybe we will just forget that we all suspect them? :)

Heh. I haven't forgotten. If it weren't for the fact that twothree had actually gained a little trust with me I'd be pushing in that direction.

[path12]

How have I disappeared? Are you kidding? I probably have the most posts of anyone today besides Alan T.

Not talking about posts, I'm talking about you two being lynch candidates.

[path12]

Hey, DC in the house! Wish you would have signed up?

[Fouts]

if they keep avoiding the questions we are asking, maybe we will just forget that we all suspect them? :)

They aren't the only ones avoiding questions.

[Alan T]

Hey, DC in the house! Wish you would have signed up?


you do realize it will be like 4 hours before she gets to this post right? :)

[Fouts]

Path, why do you lock up st. cronin anyways?

[path12]

Anxiety,

Were you visited by anyone last night? It might be possible that the Astronomican picked up a reading from them instead of you.

I have to say that this post bothers me a lot.

[path12]

Path, why do you lock up st. cronin anyways?

Because I have been worried that there might be bad consequences if the only person who knows how the entire life support system thingy that the Emperor is on dies then there is a chance for the bad guys to get the Emperor.

[bulletsponge]

Vote Golden Eagle

this vote could easily be Greyroofoo, these 2 are acting suspicious.

[bulletsponge]

Vote Golden Eagle

this vote could easily be Greyroofoo, these 2 are acting suspicious.

[Alan T]

Vote Golden Eagle

this vote could easily be Greyroofoo, these 2 are acting suspicious.


So you believe both Anxiety and Twothree are telling the truth so as to not vote for one of the two people actually under consideration?

[Abe Sargent]

Well, I'm done with check in and it looks like I'm done with this game too ;( I feel like I followed up two strong games with a crappy one. Ah well.

To the good guys: At least my death won't be meaningless :) Good luck tomorrow!

[saldana]

They aren't the only ones avoiding questions.


i'm not avoiding the question, i am just asking you to give me one nights worth of leeway, and i will answer it in the morning....the others are simply acting like no questions have been asked.

please do not duke me....if you need a reason why i cant answer right now, go back to the beginning of the game where tanglewood says that things are supposed to be vauge for a certain amount of time. i hope to have a more solid explanation by tomorrow, thats why i am asking for more time....if you are going to duke me, please let me know so i can make my role known before the gavel falls.

[twothree]

I have to say that this post bothers me a lot.

I was just trying to confirm a hunch that Anxiety was recruited last night. He said he wasn't. So, of course I don't believe him.

[Fouts]

You already claimed the spy, but reported misinformation that led to our killing a good guy.

I don't see how you would be in danger tonight, so how could it hurt for you to do another role reveal (lol). The bad guys have other targets.

[tanglewood]

Current Vote Count Day 3

Anxiety 11 - twothree, AlanT, BrianD, saldana, path12, kingfc22, Fouts, Mustang, st.cronin, Greyroofoo, Swaggs
twothree 2 - GoldenEagle, Anxiety
GoldenEagle 1 - bulletsponge

Yet To Vote: Chief Rum

[twothree]

Well, I'm done with check in and it looks like I'm done with this game too ;( I feel like I followed up two strong games with a crappy one. Ah well.

To the good guys: At least my death won't be meaningless :) Good luck tomorrow!

I don't see how you could consider your play crappy unless you are refering to your night actions. Boy I sure hope that you don't turn out to be some kind of fourth group (psykers) that supports the emperor.

If so, I just helped the chaos/mutants take out you and tonight or tomorrow me. Ughhh....please me a mutant or chaos... :)

[GoldenEagle]

Ughhh....please me a mutant or chaos... :)

Come on guys, there is still time to vote for him. It so obvious he is not what he is saying he is. He made the whole story up.

[path12]

Shit. Tough lockup decisions tonight. I'll expect second guessing.

[path12]

Come on guys, there is still time to vote for him. It so obvious he is not what he is saying he is. He made the whole story up.

Did you ever answer my question as to whether or not you could perform your night action if you weren't in proximity to your target?

[Alan T]

Shit. Tough lockup decisions tonight. I'll expect second guessing.


Do what you think your emperor would want you to do

[GoldenEagle]

Did you ever answer my question as to whether or not you could perform your night action if you weren't in proximity to your target?

I never saw that question. What post # is it in?

[twothree]

I would suggest Fouts and st. cronin again. Since, both were able to survive while being locked up.

[GoldenEagle]

I would suggest Fouts and st. cronin again. Since, both were able to survive while being locked up.

It is ironic that you are suggestiong tow guys get locked up who I linked you with in an earlier thread.

[twothree]

It is ironic that you are suggestiong tow guys get locked up who I linked you with in an earlier thread.

And, whom would you suggest?

[Fouts]

I'd really like to see some evidence of us three being linked up. Something along the lines of one of us visiting the others chambers.

[path12]

I never saw that question. What post # is it in?

I don't have time to check..if you could just answer the question then.

[twothree]

You have to lock up St. Cronin if his role is vital to the villagers' survival.

[path12]

I'd really like to see some evidence of us three being linked up. Something along the lines of one of us visiting the others chambers.

What three?

[twothree]

What three?

Goldeneagle suggested I am somehow involved with Fouts and st. cronin. I haven't yet found the post he is refering to.

[GoldenEagle]

I don't have time to check..if you could just answer the question then.

I do not want to answer it out of context. Honestly, I do not remember such question or post.

[Fouts]

What three?

GE is suggesting that I, cronin and twothree are linked. I don't see it.

[Chief Rum]

Kinda pointless now, but...

VOTE ANXIETY

[twothree]

Post #958. Is where he stated we three were linked by going after the human seer, which is me, BTW.

[twothree]

Does anyone else think what twothree is doing is a bit odd? At no point did anyone mentioning him being a seer. He was not a target for the chaos. Now, out of the gray sky, he comes out and claims he is a seer. He says he is afraid he will be killed in the morning. It is a trap.

At this point, the chaos would gladly trade 1 for 1, especially if they could nab the human seer in the process. They probably know that Anxiety has some kind of special powers. If they can get him lynched by the villagers, then they are in good shape. If Anxiety comes up clean, then twothree knows he will be lynched tomorrow.

But the real target here is the human seer. Fouts, st. cronin, and twothree have practically been practically begging for the human seer. They took out Sir Fozzie last night hoping he was it. When that plan failed, they resulted to plan B by having one of their own come forward and say he is the human seer.

Add it all up, it makes no sense that twothree is a seer.

Just so no one has to go looking for it, here it is.

[path12]

I do not want to answer it out of context. Honestly, I do not remember such question or post.

Dude, there was no context. I simply asked whether or not you needed to be in proximity to your target to perform your night action.

Once again, you avoid a direct question.

[tanglewood]

Voting Closed. Results forthcoming.

[path12]

Crap, now I have to leave. Orders have been sent.

[tanglewood]

FINAL Vote Count Day 3

Anxiety 11 - twothree, AlanT, BrianD, saldana, path12, kingfc22, Fouts, Mustang, st.cronin, Greyroofoo, Swaggs, Chirf Rum
twothree 2 - GoldenEagle, Anxiety
GoldenEagle 1 - bulletsponge

[GoldenEagle]

Dude, there was no context. I simply asked whether or not you needed to be in proximity to your target to perform your night action.

Once again, you avoid a direct question.

I am not avoiding any type of question. How do you know I even have nigh actions?

[Abe Sargent]

Whelp - good luck to all and have fun!

[Fouts]

Whelp - good luck to all and have fun!

I wish you could have given us some info. Anything would help.

[Abe Sargent]

I gave all I had

[tanglewood]

Soon after the council regains order after the discovery of SirFozzie's corpse, twothree announces a stunning revelation. Anxiety is 'noot normal'. Quickly many follow the accusers lead and pile the pressure upon Anxiety, who openly admits that he is 'not normal', but that his psyker ability can be used to help seek out the Chaos, not aid them. Many are skepical. Why would tothree advance such a claim if he was not sure? There is a short debate, but the nearest the council is ever likely to come to a consensus emerges, Anxiety must be killed.

Upon the slow realisation that his death is imminent, Anxiety starts to try and slope out of the chamber, trying to avoid attention. He is quickly spotted and shouts come from the council as he turns and starts to run for it. Fouts slams on the emergency controls underneath his desk which lockdown the meeting chamber, closing all exits. Cornered, Anxiety starts to hyperventilate, blabbering ferociously "You may have found me, but you cannot us all. He is more powerful than any of you. We will stike you down one by one, it is inevitable. Glory to the Cha..." *BANG*. GoldenEagle stands across the room, his laspistol smouldering. He kicks the empty cartridge across the room and strides towards Anxiety's body. "He was Chaos, you could see in his eyes.... But he was merely a follower. He had no power. His Lord still breathes." He then hauls Anxiety's body upon his shoulders and heads towards the window overlooking the the Terran cityscape. With one swift motion, he hurls the rapidly decaying corpse through the glass, then watches it fall the hundreds of miles down into the festering lower level slums. "Rather they are infected than we...."

Night 3 ends 9AM

[Abe Sargent]

Except for that, fo course :)

[Fouts]

Well done, 23.

[twothree]

uhhhhh..... :eek:

[Alan T]

Nice work twothree!

[Alan T]

So who was put in the jailcell? I didnt see if it was said in that.

[twothree]

This is what is now shown in post #1


The Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica - Anxiety - Executed Day 3, Chaos Acolyte

[tanglewood]

As is now seemingly customary, path12 again motions to st.cronin that he will spend the night at his pleasure. This time however, he also turns to confer with twothree and nudges them both of in the direction of the cell block.

[Fouts]

Good choice, path. Another good choice might have been GE and Grey.

[Greyroofoo]

1 chaos down, w00t!

Now let us all serve the Emporer by hunting down the rest of their filth.

[Abe Sargent]

1 chaos down, w00t!

Now let us all serve the Emporer by hunting down the rest of their filth.



*kiss*

[GoldenEagle]

Good that we got one. I guess my theory was off.

[Fouts]

Good that we got one. I guess my theory was off.

LOL.

[bulletsponge]

my head hurts, glad we got a chaos scumbag

[twothree]

my head hurts, glad we got a chaos scumbag

The don't go back and read post #50 and #51. Your head might really start hurting, and you will vote for me tomorrow. :)

[Swaggs]

Good news there.

Is twothree effective while in the cell, though?

[Greyroofoo]

It always seems to be the quiet ones

[twothree]

Good news there.

Is twothree effective while in the cell, though?

No. I have to goto the Astronomican in order to use it. I can't do that while sitting, standing, pacing in the cell. All I can do is nod to st. cronin and say, "How you do'in?"

[Alan T]

Sure wish we had a bodyguard for twothree... who was the fool that got him killed anyways?

[Mustang]

Sure wish we had a bodyguard for twothree... who was the fool that got him killed anyways?

Got the bodyguard killed or 2-3?

On another note.. at least we can verify someone was telling the truth finally...

[BrianD]

This should now help us look for patterns and decide who is working with whom. Too bad we can't get another viewing tonight. I hate to say this, but is twothree now useless to us? He can't get a vision from his cell, and he'll get killed if we don't lock him up. At least we'll know we've got a human in a safe place.

[path12]

That was a dilemma. I figured for tonight at least, if Anxiety turned out bad that I should keep twothree safe for the night, even though it keeps him from his action for tonight. I feel pretty certain he would have been the target tonight -- who knows, maybe tomorrow there will be other options.

[kingfc22]

Nice work twothree. Hopefully, we get some good information out of tonight.

[Chief Rum]

It's terrific that we managed to get a wolf this early. Now we don't look so silly running around in circles with our theories. Still, I wish we were able to do some scanning. I am still very suspicious of GE and grey.

Apparently my vote doesn't count before night action, so I won't bother. I will try to get back before the deadline to vote.

[Alan T]

Ok, I'm going to come clean just in case I end up being the night target tonight. I figure my information out here right now is more useful than the chance of me dying and leaving everyone confused.

I purposely have been confusing people about my role mainly because of how my role is set up. I am the Prince-Primate of the Holy Synod. If you are not loyal to our emperor and his cause, you have to answer to ME. There is no single person that is more important than our emperor, and I will even sacrifice my life for him if the need arises.

Once a night I have the ability to check the faith of another person. If they are lacking, I have the chance of leading them to the light. As you can hopefully understand now why I have been hesitant to just come out and say what I am up to.

The downside for me is that is is painfully clear when I visit someone, they know it as we have a very indepth conversation. What this means is if I visit a chaos, and fail to lead them back to the light, they will know that I know they are evil.

Now, the part I am confused about is twothree claims to be the seer, Goldeneagle claims he knows someone else is the seer. My powers feel very seer like as well. Thats alot of seers running around. My theory yesterday was that perhaps there is one seer looking for abnormal (mutant) people, while I looked for those who lacked in faith (chaos). That is why yesterday I said I guessed if Anxiety turned up bad, he would show up as a mutant. Obviously thats wrong here.

I'm not calling twothree out, I have no knowledge of him and assume for now he is telling the truth. Somewhere in my mind though part of me wonders if he sacrificed a fellow bad guy to gain trust. Or another part of me wonders if there is a mutant seer, chaos seer and human seer (with me being the human).. I have no idea with that.

All I do know up till this moment was that both Saldana and Path are 100% loyal to the emperor. Is it possible one or both are still mutants that are loyal to the emperor? I honestly do not know, as I do not get that information. I do know in the front page it lists people as they die as "Loyal Human" which makes me wonder if there is a "Dis-loyal Human" or "Loyal Mutant" or "Dis-loyal mutant" where I determine the first half and another seer (perhaps twothree) determines the second half.

My target for scanning tonight was Goldeneagle. He seemed the most needing of a scan. I chose to scan him over Greyfooroo with the thinking if Grey did convert Goldeneagle, then Grey might be too powerful for me to handle. Where there still is a chance I might have some influence still over GE. More importantly I am hoping it gives us some information about those two.

Now to tie up some loose ends.. the reason Saldana and my stories didn't match on day 1 was we have no way to corrlaborate on a story outside of this board. I have no PM powers with anyone. I was hoping he would realize the significance of my role and not out me entirely while I backed him being good. So I made it sound like he sought me out. Unfortunatly he didn't catch my hint or something so made me sound like a babbling fool. At that point I wanted to try to get enough distrust to hopefully keep people from killing me at night while still protecting Saldana that day and making enough people believe me about him.

The next day I was nebulous about Path too, but he came right out and said "Alan visited me" which makes it painfully obvious that I initiate it.

I asked to be locked up with St.cronin primarily because while locked up I can still scan/convert people who are in the jail with me, and I felt there was some value from keeping me safe while validating if St.cronin is good or not. I hope if I dont die tonight that I can be locked up with people I can test in the future, as my role allows me to test from jail where twothree can't.

Thats basically all I know unfortunatly. I gave my distrust list (as long as it is) to twothree as possible scan targets yesterday, but the only 2 people I know anything about is Saldana and Path and just that they are devoted to our emperor.

I'm hoping getting this information out here so late will keep me from dying if I was not the night target, but I felt this important to clear up things just in case I do die. Please forgive me for purposely confusing everyone, but now I hope you understand why. I'll likely be alot more forthcoming from here out if still alive as you now understand my role.

[Alan T]

I'm hoping if I wasn't already their night target by putting this in at the deadline it did not give them enough time to put in a change of order before 9am EST too.

[st.cronin]

Alan, I would like you to think about the possibility that saldana was converted the same night you "viewed" him. Depending on the sequence of night events, isn't that concievable? It would explain some of his actions, as well.

[Alan T]

Alan, I would like you to think about the possibility that saldana was converted the same night you "viewed" him. Depending on the sequence of night events, isn't that concievable? It would explain some of his actions, as well.


Its possible. Its possible he was converted the next night or path converted last night. I'm assuming someone was converted night 1 still due to a lack of a bad guy action, and with still ZERO valid answer coming from grey and GE about what they were up to, thats still my prime suspect (ie: why I scanned who I did).

I think for now, I would rather look at people I know nothing about then people who I at least at one point trusted who later might have been converted though. Just better odds I think. Plus I still think I dont pick up on mutants, meaning they might still be people we want to kill, but for now they seem loyal to the emperor which I think is most important

[saldana]

alan, i assure you, i am not a mutant, and as you have indicated, am 100% loyal to the emperor.

i didnt miss your subtlety on day one, btw, but i had to out that you were the instigator when questioned on how i could perform 2 actions...sorry....hope we are both still alive.

[Alan T]

Well. I was wrong about Goldeneagle, so I think I was barking up the wrong tree there. He's loyal to the emperor as well.

[st.cronin]

Well, your info hasn't really been 100% helpful so far, Alan.

[Greyroofoo]

Blade was clean and GoldenEagle is clean. Any chance of anyone believing that I am clean too?

[Alan T]

Well, your info hasn't really been 100% helpful so far, Alan.


Sorry, I'm trying.

[tanglewood]

You awake once more, nervous to the day ahead but pleased that you are still alive. After all, being a High Lord seems to carry some risk these last few days. However, a quick check reveals that one of you has not been so lucky. You all head to path's room to find him lying camly in his bed, head and neck severed. However, as one of you pulls back the seets you spot a presiously hidden third hand protruding from his abdomen. Perhaps there will be no mourning after all.

Day 4 ends 9PM EST.

[Alan T]

Well.. guess its good we got a mutant.. but whoever is playing as the wolves is smart.. They knew without path and without our bodyguard now its just a case of picking off people one by one.

[st.cronin]

VOTE KING

Playing very much UTR. I'm going to be busy most of the day, but if anybody has any info I'll check back around lunchtime to see if I need to change my vote.

[Swaggs]

So, Path was a mutant? Is it too obvious to consider that he was protecting st. cronin because they "knew" one another? It would seem too risky to me, but it is at least worth putting out there.

[GoldenEagle]

Here is what I think happened. It might be crazy but Alan T sort of hinted at it as well. Anxiety knew he was going to be having a busy weekend coming up. He then said that he could be axed and that would gain twothree trust. If you go back to what I said yesterday, the whole twothree coming out and saying he is a seer was very odd.

But that being said, why would path be executed? So that we could not lock up twothree. It seems like they would have done that to get to twothree.

[Alan T]

So, Path was a mutant? Is it too obvious to consider that he was protecting st. cronin because they "knew" one another? It would seem too risky to me, but it is at least worth putting out there.

Well its something I was wondering too.. Path -knew- my role and yet still locked up twothree where he couldnt help any and kept me out where I couldn't scan St.cronin. Even though I asked many times during the day.

But I am just working on hunches, I dont have any valuable data here to provide.

[Alan T]

Here is what I think happened. It might be crazy but Alan T sort of hinted at it as well. Anxiety knew he was going to be having a busy weekend coming up. He then said that he could be axed and that would gain twothree trust. If you go back to what I said yesterday, the whole twothree coming out and saying he is a seer was very odd.

But that being said, why would path be executed? So that we could not lock up twothree. It seems like they would have done that to get to twothree.

No I think them killing path knew that it would handicap us to not be able to protect people. Thus leaving us at their mercy.

I think they have alot of good targets to go after tonight, from what I can see there are many people out there that provide alot of use.. So I'm not sure who they will try for.. but now its up to them who they go after.

[path12]

Perhaps there will be no mourning after all.


Oh come on, can't there be a little mourning?

[Abe Sargent]

I'll mourn ya, path

[BrianD]

So we've had one of the mutants taken out. I guess we need to thank the Chaos for this one, they actually helped us a little bit. Alan claims that path12 was 100% loyal to the emperor. Does this mean that mutants are still loyal to the emperor, or was Alan just trying to protect path?

[BrianD]

Alan has "cleared" Saldana, Path, and GE. GE was visited by Grey, and GE was still "clean" after the visit. That is a lot of people. I think at this point I am going to guess that they are all non-Chaos. I don't know about mutant status, but I think we need to look elsewhere for the Chaos.

[BrianD]

Did anyone happen to spot anyone else walking around last night?

[Mustang]

I mentioned it some time ago that I felt that mutants were still 100% loyal to the emperor. The mutants just want change to occur which means they want to survive but, have chaos defeated. That way, they can push change through to make mutations not an abomination.. if chaos wins, they still lose too so, in this way.. I believe they are still for the emperor.

I thought Path kept bringing St. Cronin in to the cell because he thought that if St. Cronin died, the emperor would die right away to? (Thought I remember that in one of the posts.. have to dig back through). I never really thought that was the case that that would happen so, maybe path was always protectin St. Cronin because he knew cronin was another mutant perhaps?

Stinks that path is dead but, still a minor victory as it was a mutant.

[twothree]

vote AlanT

[Alan T]

vote AlanT


You are kidding right? You do know this won't work right? If you want to kill me, you'll have to waste a night action on it.

[GoldenEagle]

vote AlanT

What is your explanation for voting this way?

I really do not think we are ready to lynch twothree just yet. In my opinion, we should choose one of the following from this list:

1. st. cronin
2. king fc
3. bulletsponge
4. BrianD
5. Chief Rum
6. Swaggs
7. Mustang

Those are in no order. We need to choose on of these 7 and hope we get lucky.

[Alan T]

And just for the record, unless I am a bad guy with a nightly convert ability, do you honestly think every day that I would have someone new trusting me who previously didnt?

Just think about this, day 1 Saldana was on the opposite side of me, so I scan him and he then trusts me. Day 2 Path was against me, I meet with him and he suddenly trusts me. day 3, Im not sure that GE was as much after me as I was after him, but i am pretty sure he will not vote for me today.

You won't win this gamble, and you sacrificed one of your own for nothing. I was honestly giving you the benefit of the doubt and was thinking about who to go after for today, but this stunt makes me realize maybe you were really up to stuff yesterday.

[Alan T]

What is your explanation for voting this way?

I really do not think we are ready to lynch twothree just yet. In my opinion, we should choose one of the following from this list:

1. st. cronin
2. king fc
3. bulletsponge
4. BrianD
5. Chief Rum
6. Swaggs
7. Mustang

Those are in no order. We need to choose on of these 7 and hope we get lucky.


Well I didn't turn around and vote him back in retaliation immediately primarily because he won't get enough votes to lynch me. There are enough people who know I am utmost good that I am not scared for my life today. I am curious to how he responds though, he sure did pick the wrong person to come after.

[Alan T]

And dola, I still don't know what your role is GE, or how you know certain things. But I do know you have the emperor's best interest in mind... I don't honestly have a clue really on anyone else so I can't help in point a finger at anyone right now.

[BrianD]

vote AlanT

I'd be curious to hear your reasoning. Do you think he is Chaos or a mutant?

[BrianD]

Just a heads up. As I cannot play over the weekend after today, Night 4 will run until Sunday evening. Then Day 5 will be played on Monday and we'll go back to the schedule used in the game so far.

Our next deadline is 9EST tonight for day actions, right?

[tanglewood]

Just a heads up. As I cannot play over the weekend after today, Night 4 will run until Sunday evening. Then Day 5 will be played on Monday and we'll go back to the schedule used in the game so far.

[BrianD]

What is your explanation for voting this way?

I really do not think we are ready to lynch twothree just yet. In my opinion, we should choose one of the following from this list:

1. st. cronin
2. king fc
3. bulletsponge
4. BrianD
5. Chief Rum
6. Swaggs
7. Mustang

Those are in no order. We need to choose on of these 7 and hope we get lucky.

I'm on your list? Wasn't I defending you yesterday? I also mentioned earlier today that I thought you and Grey were clean...or at least not Chaos.

[BrianD]

dola,

I'm on your list? Wasn't I defending you yesterday? I also mentioned earlier today that I thought you and Grey were clean...or at least not Chaos.

But if fairness, I did say I thought you were clean after Alan said he "talked" with you, so I guess that dosn't help me.

Personally, I am leaning toward Kingfc just for staying so under the radar.

Also, did anyone see anyone else walking around last night? This could be important.

[GoldenEagle]

I'm on your list? Wasn't I defending you yesterday? I also mentioned earlier today that I thought you and Grey were clean...or at least not Chaos.

It is just a list. Everyone on there is not chaos or mutant. That list is also incomplete at this time. But i think it is a good starting point.

[Greyroofoo]

Personally my top 3 are the people under the radar

1. Chief Rum
2. Kingfc
3. Swaggs

[Alan T]

dola,



But if fairness, I did say I thought you were clean after Alan said he "talked" with you, so I guess that dosn't help me.

Personally, I am leaning toward Kingfc just for staying so under the radar.

Also, did anyone see anyone else walking around last night? This could be important.


I know someone who I know to be loyal to the emperor who was out of his room. I don't know what they were doing, but since I know they are loyal to the cause I'm not as concerned.

[Alan T]

Personally my top 3 are the people under the radar

1. Chief Rum
2. Kingfc
3. Swaggs


I personally don't think Chief is as much under the radar as he is just not here during the conversations every day. He used that to his benefit last game as a wolf, however just because he's not around means he is a wolf this game though.

[BrianD]

I know someone who I know to be loyal to the emperor who was out of his room. I don't know what they were doing, but since I know they are loyal to the cause I'm not as concerned.

Care to share?

[tanglewood]

Our next deadline is 9EST tonight for day actions, right?

Yes, today still ends at 9PM EST.

[Alan T]

Care to share?


There are 3 people on my list that i knew were loyal to the emperor's cause. only 2 of them left alive, so shouldn't be too hard. At least 50/50 guess :)

[Alan T]

St. cronin

He's had a free ride so far, just jumped on whatever the vote of the day seemed to be without much extra added value.. and for some reason Path didnt want me to have a chance to scan St.cronin last night. Path from the start also seemed to think he had huge value to us.

My guess is the head mutant guy perhaps right now.

[Greyroofoo]

I'm just curious why twothree voted for Alan T

[Alan T]

I'm just curious why twothree voted for Alan T

I didn't put alot of weight into what Goldeneagle said yesterday. I was 85% sure you and him were both bad. I still don't know much about you, but I am realizing maybe GE wasn't as incorrect as I thought he was after all.

[BrianD]

There is no way that twothree is bad. I refuse to believe he outted a fellow Chaos member just to become trusted. I do think he needs to be talked out of voting for Alan though as I don't think that will get us anywhere.