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  • No Pressure
    Banned
    • Mar 2013
    • 111

    #331
    Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

    I like the camera angle used when you hit the ball in Road to the show, it would be kind of cool to have that camera for a normal game. It would actually make you feel like you're controlling that player up to bat. it's also harder, like in real life, to see exactly where the ball is going to drop, would make baserunning more fun IMO.

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    • nuckles2k2
      MVP
      • Sep 2006
      • 1922

      #332
      Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

      I admittedly didn't read thru the thread, so I don't know if this has been discussed...but when I'm pitching, I want it to feel like I'm pitching.

      I floated around the idea before of 'dynamic API' where we're actually communicating with the catcher. If I'm kind of feeling my slider, and I want to throw it down and in on a righty (as a lefty pitcher) to see if he'll chase, and my catcher is calling for a fastball just off the plate away...I should be able to shake him off until he calls the slider.

      I don't mean just select the slider and throw it, but we should have to be on the same page with the catcher, or the chances of cross-ups and pass balls go way up.

      Shaking off the catcher should have a visual attached to it and it should be user controlled. Not the quick "nah I'm not throwing that...I'm gonna throw this...guess which one it is " when we select any pitch other than the one called for.

      A lot of it is aesthetics, because it doesn't really change the way the game is played, but I think that would absolutely increase the immersion factor.

      Imagine you're pitching in the game, it's 0-0 in the bottom of the 7th, there's a man on third with 1 out, you have a 1-2 count, and your fastball is just sexy right now -- you want to throw one in on the hands (lefty on lefty, lets say) but your catcher is calling for a breaking ball down to get the guy chasing.

      As the game is now, you can just select that fastball and fire it in. But if we had the option of 'dynamic API' do you throw a fastball while the CPU is looking for breaking ball? What if it ends up being a pass-ball because the catcher called one thing, and you threw another?

      Maybe they can program in mound visits in key situations, and depending on the experience and stature of both the pitcher and the catcher, someone wins the battle of what pitch is selected.

      I dunno...I think that would be pretty sick. And if they implemented something like that...I don't see how I'd get any work done, ever -- like, at all.
      Last edited by nuckles2k2; 10-25-2013, 11:56 AM.

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      • RandyBass
        MVP
        • Dec 2009
        • 1179

        #333
        Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

        Watching this year's World Series makes me wonder about one all important thing about the PS4 version of The Show:

        Will it have next gen beard technology?





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        • sk
          God's Son.
          • Mar 2010
          • 515

          #334
          Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

          Originally posted by RandyBass
          Watching this year's World Series makes me wonder about one all important thing about the PS4 version of The Show:

          Will it have next gen beard technology?





          Have you seen James Harden in next gen NBA 2k14? I think the answer is yes.
          "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed"

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          • ill23matic
            Banned
            • Feb 2009
            • 194

            #335
            Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

            Nuckles no pitcher in their right mind is going to throw a fastball in when their catcher called a breaking ball away unless they misread a sign or the catcher called something and meant to call something else. Cross ups happen, and I'm sure in next gen they could throw random cross ups in and have passed balls result (or animations of the catcher lookin like he was crossed up)

            In terms of having to actually shake off a pitch the catcher called, yea, that may be a cool feature, one u could turn off because a catcher progressing through signs would add extra time to the completion of a game and some don't want that. I think another idea that would be cool is to improve catcher animations to where they show you w their glove that they want the ball bounced, or above the letters, targets in general, and have better right to left movement when then want pitches in and out, holding close pitches in the zone to sell them as strikes. And now that so many pitches are called from the dugout, it would be a nice touch to have the catcher looking into the dugout to receive the sign before setting one down. Multiple signs w runners on second would be cool too.

            I think these are all little things that will eventually be accomplished in next gen to get that pitcher catcher immersion u are looking for

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            • KBLover
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2009
              • 12172

              #336
              Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

              Originally posted by ill23matic
              Nuckles no pitcher in their right mind is going to throw a fastball in when their catcher called a breaking ball away unless they misread a sign or the catcher called something and meant to call something else.
              Thing is, you can do that now with no consequence. I took that to be the point of his idea since a pitcher wouldn't do that and a reason is the cross up, etc.
              "Some people call it butterflies, but to him, it probably feels like pterodactyls in his stomach." --Plesac in MLB18

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              • nuckles2k2
                MVP
                • Sep 2006
                • 1922

                #337
                Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                Originally posted by ill23matic
                Nuckles no pitcher in their right mind is going to throw a fastball in when their catcher called a breaking ball away unless they misread a sign or the catcher called something and meant to call something else. Cross ups happen, and I'm sure in next gen they could throw random cross ups in and have passed balls result (or animations of the catcher lookin like he was crossed up)

                In terms of having to actually shake off a pitch the catcher called, yea, that may be a cool feature, one u could turn off because a catcher progressing through signs would add extra time to the completion of a game and some don't want that. I think another idea that would be cool is to improve catcher animations to where they show you w their glove that they want the ball bounced, or above the letters, targets in general, and have better right to left movement when then want pitches in and out, holding close pitches in the zone to sell them as strikes. And now that so many pitches are called from the dugout, it would be a nice touch to have the catcher looking into the dugout to receive the sign before setting one down. Multiple signs w runners on second would be cool too.

                I think these are all little things that will eventually be accomplished in next gen to get that pitcher catcher immersion u are looking for
                I agree with you on your first point, but that's how the game is right now, lol. If one pitch is called and you don't want to throw it, you just select another and viola!! the catcher knows what's coming. It starts to feel super unrealistic when I see if for 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 innings.

                More cross ups would be great, but if 1.) my catcher is calling for a pitch, I throw that pitch, and he's crossed up...please remove him from the game. Now. And 2.) if the game stays as is, and they just increase the number of cross ups when you don't throw the suggested pitch, I'd feel cheated, because at least give me a way to lower that possibility.

                Of course it would have to be an option, because API is optional after Veteran, I think? But I think it would be a fantastic option.

                I completely agree with everything else you said too. Signs from the dugout, and multiple signs when a guys are on second and/or third, and in rival ballparks...sign me up.
                Last edited by nuckles2k2; 10-25-2013, 06:31 PM.

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                • ill23matic
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 194

                  #338
                  Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                  Yea I just misinterpreted what you were saying there.

                  And Catchers cross themselves too, lol. In college we used an adding system w a runner on second. You add the first three signs, ie sum of 6 is a change up, 7 is curve, 8 is fastball. Fourth sign is a dead sign, and fifth is location. I came in one game to put out a bases loaded fire late in the game. Catcher puts down 4, 1, 3, (ok, 8, fastball), dead sign and whatever the location was. Well in his head, what he put down was 7, he was thinking curve but didn't throw that down. So I pump a fastball in, he's thinking it's gonna break so he drops down to block it and of course it stays on a flat plane and he wore it right in the chest protector and got the wind knocked out of him. Luckily it didn't bounce too far away.
                  Last edited by ill23matic; 10-25-2013, 09:35 PM.

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                  • Picci
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 4517

                    #339
                    Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                    In my best Michael Corleone impression........................................ ....................

                    Whats important to me is <b>Smart Talk Announcing.</b>

                    If "Clemenza" can find a way to build a smart program that when we log on-line with our franchise, the data being played is being "<b>smartly called</b>" on the field during the in-game action. Smart Talk would appropriately call how your franchise is going. Teams in hot/cold streaks and moves! Now, that's next generation!

                    Then, this game will kill them all

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                    • Herschie
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 741

                      #340
                      Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                      I want to be unable to tell if this is a real game or a video game.
                      Would the lady who left her nine kids at Wrigley Field please pick them up immediately? They are beating the Cubs 4-0 in the 7th inning!

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                      • TripleCrown
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1240

                        #341
                        Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                        my question is more oriented to roster makers like Knight and others :

                        what would be for you the most useful feature when creating roster ?

                        I guess some import/export is first in your list.

                        A little thing I think would be nice is to have deferred roster validation. I understand why you need 90 players, a certain number of pitchers vs players. But if during creation process you would be able to have more than 90 players....more than 45 pitchers that would save a lot of time. Roster validation can be done before submitting to the vault or starting a franchise.

                        But during creation mode being able to have +90 players and doing 3 vs 1 players roster move is a must I think.

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                        • dingleberryfinn
                          Banned
                          • May 2010
                          • 1736

                          #342
                          Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                          Originally posted by TripleCrown
                          my question is more oriented to roster makers like Knight and others :

                          what would be for you the most useful feature when creating roster ?

                          I guess some import/export is first in your list.

                          A little thing I think would be nice is to have deferred roster validation. I understand why you need 90 players, a certain number of pitchers vs players. But if during creation process you would be able to have more than 90 players....more than 45 pitchers that would save a lot of time. Roster validation can be done before submitting to the vault or starting a franchise.

                          But during creation mode being able to have +90 players and doing 3 vs 1 players roster move is a must I think.
                          I'd like to see Team Import.

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                          • Shaffer26
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1237

                            #343
                            Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                            Haven't read the thread and I'm sure this has been stated previously, but generated pitch counts are a must.

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                            • @legendm0de
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 763

                              #344
                              Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                              Originally posted by Shaffer26
                              Haven't read the thread and I'm sure this has been stated previously, but generated pitch counts are a must.
                              Im combing through the thread to tag each page's discussion topics


                              Page 2 - RTTS/Player customizations, Customizable & Historic Leagues/Seasons, Commentary/Presentation

                              Page 3 - Presentations, Retractable Roofs, Season Long Degenerative Health, Franchise Mode Adjustments

                              Page 4 - Progression/Regression Attribute Changes, Tattoos/Animations, Dynamic Weather/Winds, Generated Pitch Counts

                              Page 5 - Transactions Upgrades/Franchise Mode Upgrades. Ball Physics (RusselSCEA)

                              Page 6 - Trade Deadlines, Transactions, Player Tendencies, Player Personas, Franchise Mode .

                              Page 7 - Player Models, Baseball Brawls, Create Stadium/Relocation, Generated Pitch Count

                              Page 8 - Commentary, Classic Stadiums

                              Page 9 - Energy/Durability/Injury Attributes, Scouting

                              Page 10 - Player Progression/Regression Discussion, Weather Impact on Seasons

                              Page 11 - AI Management, Progression/Regression, Outside Stadium Presentations

                              Page 12 - Presentations, Player Models, Pitching, Franchise/RTTS, AI Management/Transactions

                              Page 13 - Broadcasts/PA Presentations, Stadia/Glove/Models Graphics Speculation

                              Page 14 - Animations, Graphics, Online Modes

                              Page 15 - Player Models, Uniforms, Stat-Tracking

                              Page 16 - Sweating/Uniforms, Stats, BallGirls/Ballboys/Security, Batboys etc

                              Page 17 - PC Graphics, Statistical Coverage/Depth, In-Game Time Keeping

                              Page 18 - Pitching, Player Personality, Franchise Mode Expansion

                              Page 19 - Relief vs Closing Pitcher (in Fran. Mode), Relocation/Expansion/Throwback Leagues, Accurate Contracts

                              Page 20 - Player Uniqueness (position, personality, injury, contract), MLB 14 (PS4) Expectations
                              Last edited by @legendm0de; 10-28-2013, 01:03 AM.
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                              • lhslancers
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 3589

                                #345
                                Re: PS4 Discussion (MLB The Show 14)

                                I play these games way too much. I really care more about on field gameplay and graphics. If I played franchise the other stuff would hold more weight but since I do not it is really a non starter for me. I am guessing with the additional memory those concerns should be easily addressed.

                                I think they need to expand the slots available for usable Sounds of the Show. I have packs for the past 4 games and you can't easily load them all and I don't want to have to delete stuff constantly.
                                Work on the collision detection. The past couple of years I see guys bumping into umpires a bit too frequently.

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