MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Cubs1984Nostaglia]

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Okay fellas, it`s July 4th and Jeff Samardzija is dominating this year, ERA under 3.30. All the business.

It`s time to seriously consider dealing him... soon.

What should I consider?

Cubs get: Christian Yelich, Anthony DeSclafini
Marlins get: Samardzija. (Marlins are competitors in my chise)

Cubs get: Aaron Sanchez, Daniel Norris, Anthony Gose
Jays get: Samardzija, Schierholtz (Doing his normal 2013 stuff in my chise)

Cubs get: Eddie Butler, Corey Dickerson
Rockies get: Samardzija

Cubs get: Jason Heyward
Braves get: Samardzija, Soler

Cubs get: Kyle Crick, Gary Brown
Giants get: Samardzija

Sorry if it`s long, i have many options. Looking for a very nice, young outfield bat as well (as you can see Heyward, Dickerson)

[AC]

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For the first deal, I don't feel like the Royals need Ackley. He's primarily a second baseman, and they just paid Infante to play there. He has played some center field, but he's a negative WAR defender in the outfield, with center being his worst according to his Rdrs/yr, and I don't think his bat makes up for it. While they aren't paying a ton, I don't think they're actually upgrading in center, which is what they'd likely want to be part of such a deal.

The second deal I like if Arizona isn't contending. It's an upgrade for the Royals in center, gives the D-Backs a top prospect back, and gets you what you need.

For the third one, I feel the scenario for Arizona is strange. They're giving up two fairly good pitchers, and while Rasmus helps their offense, would the loss of pitching hurt them if they were contending? If they're not contending, trading for Rasmus is even less likely. Either way you'd probably need to assure that he signs a contract before you send him their way.

I'd say Deal 2, Deal 3, Deal 1 in that order, with Deal 2 being my favorite.

1. The focus would be on him as a CF. You need to be careful quoting defensive statistics like that. They take 2-3000 innings to stabilize whatsoever, if that. So I wouldn't be so sure on Ackley's defense in the OF yet. I think he's going to be good out there. We'll see when/if the metrics stabilize.

2. Yeah, it seems like the best/most realistic deal. Only thing is I'm not getting Zunino, but if it comes down to it, this is what I'm taking.

3. The idea there is that Bradley comes up. Delgado's been a pen arm and is probably replaceable, and Bradley can replace Miley. Or if I go for McCarthy, yeah, I don't think he's a big deal. Let's just say that ARZ's already attempted to get rid of him IRL.

I think I'm pretty close here though.

I agree with your rankings in concept, but based on what I know about the Jays and other orgs, I'd say the order of realism goes 2-1-3, but my order of preference is 2-3-1.

[cardinal511]

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1. The focus would be on him as a CF. You need to be careful quoting defensive statistics like that. They take 2-3000 innings to stabilize whatsoever, if that. So I wouldn't be so sure on Ackley's defense in the OF yet. I think he's going to be good out there. We'll see when/if the metrics stabilize.

2. Yeah, it seems like the best/most realistic deal. Only thing is I'm not getting Zunino, but if it comes down to it, this is what I'm taking.

3. The idea there is that Bradley comes up. Delgado's been a pen arm and is probably replaceable, and Bradley can replace Miley. Or if I go for McCarthy, yeah, I don't think he's a big deal. Let's just say that ARZ's already attempted to get rid of him IRL.

I think I'm pretty close here though.

I agree with your rankings in concept, but based on what I know about the Jays and other orgs, I'd say the order of realism goes 2-1-3, but my order of preference is 2-3-1.

Fair enough. Could you remove the Diamondbacks completely from the third trade, bring Zunino back to Toronto, while sending Rasmus, Bethancourt, and possibly Lind to Seattle and giving Atlanta something as compensation for Bethancourt from either you or Seattle?

[mgcst5]

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AC i agree with the second deal being the most realistic in my opinion. In regards to your earlier statement about lesser pitching prospects I need to be more specific. I think the Royals value Ventura similar to how the Pirates value Taillon, essentially untouchable except when dealing for a truly elite player. I really like Rausmus but I think he is below elite but thats just my opinion. I feel similarly about Zunino for Seattle in regards to untouchable status.

[AC]

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Fair enough. Could you remove the Diamondbacks completely from the third trade, bring Zunino back to Toronto, while sending Rasmus, Bethancourt, and possibly Lind to Seattle and giving Atlanta something as compensation for Bethancourt from either you or Seattle?

Hm... I could. I brought in ARZ to get Miley but I like that idea. If I did that, how would your rankings of the trades change?

AC i agree with the second deal being the most realistic in my opinion. In regards to your earlier statement about lesser pitching prospects I need to be more specific. I think the Royals value Ventura similar to how the Pirates value Taillon, essentially untouchable except when dealing for a truly elite player. I really like Rausmus but I think he is below elite but thats just my opinion. I feel similarly about Zunino for Seattle in regards to untouchable status.

Okay, I know this for a fact now lol. I value pitching prospects a lot lower than you guys do. The fact is that most pitching prospects bust. They're not as valuable in my view as they are in yours. So I'm more likely to go with a hitter's side.

I don't think Zunino is untouchable for Rasmus, Lind, and Bethancourt. Zunino probably isn't a league average bat RoS.

[IWND46]

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Are the DBacks looking to move Didi in real life? I thought he was one of heir top prospects, seems weird that I see his name pop up so often on here as a guy to trade for. I would have thought he was high on their list of guys to keep and build around?


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there were some rumors in the offseason iirc

[AC]

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D-Backs are looking to move Didi, yes.

[mgcst5]

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Okay, I know this for a fact now lol. I value pitching prospects a lot lower than you guys do. The fact is that most pitching prospects bust. They're not as valuable in my view as they are in yours. So I'm more likely to go with a hitter's side.



I don't think Zunino is untouchable for Rasmus, Lind, and Bethancourt. Zunino probably isn't a league average bat RoS.

I can respect that considering the attrition rate for pitchers but i look at that making pitchers more valuable. Arms that can touch 103 on there 102nd pitch (Ventura did it this season against my Orioles unfortunately) don't come around very often. Regardless as to whether or not he busts I think the Royals value him very highly at this stage. Also Rasmus is in the final year of his deal (Mid-Season extensions need to be added next year) so I just don't see the Royals doing Ventura. Like i said thats just my opinion. If you do 30 team control you can ensure they resign Rasmus and I could probably get more on board with that.

[cardinal511]

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Hm... I could. I brought in ARZ to get Miley but I like that idea. If I did that, how would your rankings of the trades change?

Okay, I know this for a fact now lol. I value pitching prospects a lot lower than you guys do. The fact is that most pitching prospects bust. They're not as valuable in my view as they are in yours. So I'm more likely to go with a hitter's side.

I don't think Zunino is untouchable for Rasmus, Lind, and Bethancourt. Zunino probably isn't a league average bat RoS.

I think the second trade in the first batch is the most realistic, but I like this deal better than the other two for Zunino. I'd say if Seattle is competing and Zunino isn't lighting the world on fire, you can make this trade, as it'd put them in a more win now mode and would upgrade their offense (I think you need to extend Rasmus for them, though). If they're out of contention, I think they stick with Zunino instead of accepting that trade unless Zunino is doing really badly and looks like a bust.

[AC]

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I can respect that considering the attrition rate for pitchers but i look at that making pitchers more valuable. Arms that can touch 103 on there 102nd pitch (Ventura did it this season against my Orioles unfortunately) don't come around very often. Regardless as to whether or not he busts I think the Royals value him very highly at this stage. Also Rasmus is in the final year of his deal (Mid-Season extensions need to be added next year) so I just don't see the Royals doing Ventura. Like i said thats just my opinion. If you do 30 team control you can ensure they resign Rasmus and I could probably get more on board with that.

Eh, I don't think it's a better fit than the other things I posted. What do you think of my other 3 options?

[ESexton18]

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Im running with 30 team control, the Giants offered Kyle Crick and Edwin Escobar, both SPs, to the Phillies for Cole Hamels? Should I play God and shoot this trade down or let it go through?

The only reason I want to shut it down as its early May in my franchise and trades usually don't happen this early in the year.

I personally don't think thats enough for Hamels.

[IWND46]

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I personally don't think thats enough for Hamels.

i dont think so either

[mgcst5]

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Eh, I don't think it's a better fit than the other things I posted. What do you think of my other 3 options?

Like the first a lot but I think the Braves will want something else because despite the weak bat they really view Betancourt as there catcher of the future. Although Herrera AND Duffy could probably do it.

The 2nd is pretty perfect although I am unfamiliar with Almonte

The third isn't bad but definitely my leasts favorite.

[HuskerPower3]

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I personally don't think thats enough for Hamels.

Agreed. Hamels commands a high price tag, even with some scuffles.

On another note, AC did you change your name?


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[AC]

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I changed it back, actually. I started out as ACMilan99, then changed it to AC99, but it was reset somehow to ACMilan99, so Steve let me change it to, as I'm mainly known around here, AC.