MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I really don't like making Jr. look smart but the above is about as fair as fair gets (even if I think Baez has the most bust potential of the current Cubs prospects). Would the same type of deal work for Russell or would Lee have to be replaced by Hamels?

To say I disagree with this assessment would be a large understatement.

The "same deal" would work neither for Lee nor for Hamels. The Cubs would flat out decline.

[hampshirestags]

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Works for me. I'd rather keep Cishek, especially considering the season he's having for me right now.

Here's developing some middle infielders I found that I like and might be in reach. All teams are in the hunt for either the WC or Division.

SS Jace Peterson (SD) - 23, 72/B, AAA, .267/.340/.366

SS Chris Taylor (SEA), 23, 74/B, AAA, .264/.363/.334

Pie-in-the-sky-wishful-thinking SS Addison Russell - this roster doesn't have the real life trade the Cubs made to get him. I know I can't get him - just had to look at him though LOL

SS Danny Santana (MIN), 23, 73/B, AAA, .214/.265/.301 - needs some work probably but could be a doubles/triples monster in Marlins Park with his speed and with developed contact skills.

SS Hak-Ju Lee (TB), 23, 74/B, MLB, .251/.329/.322 - defense and speed type - plays everywhere - needs to work on bat, though.

SS Riley Unroe (TB), 18, 59/B, AA but no stats. Ways off but seems to have a solid base for a HS prospect.

I would through Dee Gordon on here but the Dodgers want the mint for him so...whatever.

Too bad getting Billy Hamilton would be unrealistic. I'd try to package to get him and would stick him at SS with his freaking 94 reaction...


Santana, Peterson, Lee seem to be the most attainable according to spreadsheet value (none of them are higher than B-). Unroe isn't listed, I know I can't get Russell, and Taylor isn't listed either.

For Dunn, you can't go wrong with Taylor. I also like Peterson and I really like Lee (I live a hour north of Tampa so that that with a grain of salt, I might be a bit of a homer on him).

[Justino28]

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Halfway through the season in my Mets franchise and we lost Grandy for 2 months and now need an outfielder
Thinkin about this; thoughts?

Mets Get:
-Josh Reddick 14hr 54rbi .222/.304/.382
and either
-Dylan Covey (22y/o b pot) 9-8 3.06 era at AA
-Bobby Wahl (22y/o b pot) n/a at A

Athletics Get:
-Dillon Gee 4-9 3.72 era
-Noah Syndergaard (21y/o A pot) 10-9 3.01 era at AAA
-Ike Davis 9hr 26rbi .242/.315/.439

The A's are 54-52 and 14 back in the west

[hampshirestags]

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To say I disagree with this assessment would be a large understatement.

The "same deal" would work neither for Lee nor for Hamels. The Cubs would flat out decline.

Is that because you are higher on Baez or because you think the Cubs would go in a different direction for pitching? It's easy to disagree on prospects but if you wouldn't trade Baez for pitching at all, that's also good info as well.

Given your graphic, your opinion on this is important!

[AC]

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And, not surprisingly, a user team getting Baez again for next to nothing. Bad. Bad. Bad deal. Not realistic in the slightest. Not fair either.

Lol, let him have this one. There's no other way he's getting Baez. I figured that was better than the broken Appel. I don't know why he wants him with Correa but it's the best possible outcome for him.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Halfway through the season in my Mets franchise and we lost Grandy for 2 months and now need an outfielder
Thinkin about this; thoughts?

Mets Get:
-Josh Reddick 14hr 54rbi .222/.304/.382
and either
-Dylan Covey (22y/o b pot) 9-8 3.06 era at AA
-Bobby Wahl (22y/o b pot) n/a at A

Athletics Get:
-Dillon Gee 4-9 3.72 era
-Noah Syndergaard (21y/o A pot) 10-9 3.01 era at AAA
-Ike Davis 9hr 26rbi .242/.315/.439

The A's are 54-52 and 14 back in the west

Please, no. You are fleecing yourself here. There is no one from the A's side that would require Syndergaard to get. You may want think more Steven Matz than Noah..

Is that because you are higher on Baez or because you think the Cubs would go in a different direction for pitching? It's easy to disagree on prospects but if you wouldn't trade Baez for pitching at all, that's also good info as well.

Given your graphic, your opinion on this is important!

Well, everyone is high on Baez...he's a top 5-10 prospect in baseball. It's not just me. But, sure, I think his bat can be 'all-time great' in terms of power generation and XBHs. I am thinking 500-HR club if he can continue to develop, stay healthy and have a long career. And we know that offense is at a premium in the modern game.

I also believe team Theo/Hoyer thinks about cost and team control a lot and taking on old pitchers (even at reduced rates) doesn't make any sense at all within the grand plan. They'd be looking at P's who are 27 and under and if they did get an older pitcher, they certainly would not give up the crown jewel in their organization to do so. Cubs fans would riot if this deal happened IRL--I really have no doubt of that. I'd be looking at pitchfork and lantern prices....but that's me.

Furthermore, no, there's not a pitcher in baseball (that's available...obviously would do it for Kershaw and probably Strasburg/Fernandez also) that I would deal Baez for. I want to see what he has at the MLB level before I would even think about dealing him away. Remember, the Cubs just did this deal in reverse so to speak with Shark for Russell.

[hampshirestags]

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Halfway through the season in my Mets franchise and we lost Grandy for 2 months and now need an outfielder
Thinkin about this; thoughts?

Mets Get:
-Josh Reddick 14hr 54rbi .222/.304/.382
and either
-Dylan Covey (22y/o b pot) 9-8 3.06 era at AA
-Bobby Wahl (22y/o b pot) n/a at A

Athletics Get:
-Dillon Gee 4-9 3.72 era
-Noah Syndergaard (21y/o A pot) 10-9 3.01 era at AAA
-Ike Davis 9hr 26rbi .242/.315/.439

The A's are 54-52 and 14 back in the west

Reddick could be had for (using an example from a few days ago) Davis (or comparable) and a low end P prospect. You don't have to give Noah (and recommending you don't unless you just can't pitch with him).

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Lol, let him have this one. There's no way in hell he's getting Baez fairly or realistically. I figured that was better than the broken Appel. I don't know why he wants him with Correa but it's the best possible outcome for him.

Fixed that for you.

Chisers gon' chise.

Obviously he can do whatever, but since he's been hanging out in here more often, it appears that realism/fairness is something that the OP is interested in. As a Cubs fan, I had to go on record with my strong distaste.

I would guess he's moving Correa or Baez to 3B because Altuve.

[hampshirestags]

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Please, no. You are fleecing yourself here. There is no one from the A's side that would require Syndergaard to get. You may want think more Steven Matz than Noah..



Well, everyone is high on Baez...he's a top 5-10 prospect in baseball. It's not just me. But, sure, I think his bat can be 'all-time great' in terms of power generation and XBHs. I am thinking 500-HR club if he can continue to develop, stay healthy and have a long career. And we know that offense is at a premium in the modern game.

I also believe team Theo/Hoyer thinks about cost and team control a lot and taking on old pitchers (even at reduced rates) doesn't make any sense at all within the grand plan. They'd be looking at P's who are 27 and under and if they did get an older pitcher, they certainly would not give up the crown jewel in their organization to do so. Cubs fans would riot if this deal happened IRL--I really have no doubt of that. I'd be looking at pitchfork and lantern prices....but that's me.

Furthermore, no, there's not a pitcher in baseball (that's available...obviously would do it for Kershaw and probably Strasburg/Fernandez also) that I would deal Baez for. I want to see what he has at the MLB level before I would even think about dealing him away. Remember, the Cubs just did this deal in reverse so to speak with Shark for Russell.

Great explanation of your value of Baez. I disagree but also realize I am minority opinion...for now. We'll have another couple years to debate Baez but agree Lee is a rough fit, to say the least.

That being said, AC's suggestion covers the value and if the user wants to play with Baez in Houston, we should try to come up with some way to make it as close to fair as possible, right?

[KBLover]

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For Dunn, you can't go wrong with Taylor. I also like Peterson and I really like Lee (I live a hour north of Tampa so that that with a grain of salt, I might be a bit of a homer on him).

Yeah, looking at all those infielders made me like Peterson and Lee too. I want them all now LOL.

Gonna do that Dunn for Taylor. Thanks guys

[kmoser]

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Fixed that for you.



Chisers gon' chise.



Obviously he can do whatever, but since he's been hanging out in here more often, it appears that realism/fairness is something that the OP is interested in. As a Cubs fan, I had to go on record with my strong distaste.



I would guess he's moving Correa or Baez to 3B because Altuve.

I've been reading your comments and I don't think I am going to do the deal now lol. If I did get Baez I would just move him to 3rd.
I do have one question however. What if, instead I the Phillies, I make the Rays the other team in the deal and the Cubs get Price? I know I would have to give up more prospects for Price in the deal but just wondering. I'm in year two so most of the "big" Cubs prospects are either up or very close.


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[hampshirestags]

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I've been reading your comments and I don't think I am going to do the deal now lol. If I did get Baez I would just move him to 3rd.
I do have one question however. What if, instead I the Phillies, I make the Rays the other team in the deal and the Cubs get Price? I know I would have to give up more prospects for Price in the deal but just wondering. I'm in year two so most of the "big" Cubs prospects are either up or very close.


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I didn't realize we were talking about you! Tsk, tsk, tsk (in my best grandpa voice). However, I allow myself 1 "fantasy" trade in a franchise as long as I overpay so I get where you're coming from.

2015 could bring a totally different set of circumstances and if TB still has Price, they will not resign him and will look to trade (unless they are taking a C. Crawford type risk at a WS). I want WTNY to weigh in but think Price is a much better option than Lee or Hamels.

[kmoser]

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I didn't realize we were talking about you! Tsk, tsk, tsk (in my best grandpa voice). However, I allow myself 1 "fantasy" trade in a franchise as long as I overpay so I get where you're coming from.



2015 could bring a totally different set of circumstances and if TB still has Price, they will not resign him and will look to trade (unless they are taking a C. Crawford type risk at a WS). I want WTNY to weigh in but think Price is a much better option than Lee or Hamels.

The Rays have Price on the block (if that even means anything in this game). Russell is in the Majors and Starlin Castro is having a good year, as well as Bryant tearing up AAA so I just thought Baez could be had, but maybe not.



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[hampshirestags]

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The Rays have Price on the block (if that even means anything in this game). Russell is in the Majors and Starlin Castro is having a good year, as well as Bryant tearing up AAA so I just thought Baez could be had, but maybe not.



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Always ignore the trading block. You have a better handle than the CPU on just about every player. Cubs couldn't/wouldn't look for a 1 for 1 with TB and Price so it would require a 3rd team and HOU while not logical with their SS stud could still move Baez to LF and makes sense with their IRL strategy.

I stink with 3 team trades in the game but know they are others than can come up with packages. Your dance partner here is a team that is 2-3 years away from getting to .500.

Edit: meaning if everybody is trying to win, HOU probably doesn't get invited to the dance. Have you thought about other 3b or do you just want to play with Baez? If so, give Correa.

[kmoser]

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Always ignore the trading block. You have a better handle than the CPU on just about every player. Cubs couldn't/wouldn't look for a 1 for 1 with TB and Price so it would require a 3rd team and HOU while not logical with their SS stud could still move Baez to LF and makes sense with their IRL strategy.

I stink with 3 team trades in the game but know they are others than can come up with packages. Your dance partner here is a team that is 2-3 years away from getting to .500.

Edit: meaning if everybody is trying to win, HOU probably doesn't get invited to the dance. Have you thought about other 3b or do you just want to play with Baez? If so, give Correa.

I was planning on moving Baez to 3rd if we got him


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