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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #5806
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    I think Chicago's losing that one.
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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    • Zim
      Rookie
      • Oct 2012
      • 58

      #5807
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by AC
      I think Chicago's losing that one.
      You think Ball or Johnson instead of Barnes? Or am I way off?

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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #5808
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Zim
        You think Ball or Johnson instead of Barnes? Or am I way off?
        Lol I have Barnes ahead of those two. Think you're undervaluing Soler.
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        • Bard
          YouTube: NHBard
          • Oct 2010
          • 7803

          #5809
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by AC
          Lol I have Barnes ahead of those two. Think you're undervaluing Soler.
          How much do you think Soler is worth exactly? Prospect values are always my hardest to judge, but a Barnes + Ranaudo for him seems like an overpay for the Sox even with our depth at SP and in need of an OF. Barnes to me will probably end up a long man while Ranaudo is still interesting, but his age has me at the now or never stage. I believe in OS Barnes is a B - B+ while Ranaudo is an A- so them both for Soler is hard to do from my POV.
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          • AC
            Win the East
            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #5810
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Anthony Ranaudo.

            A-.

            My word.
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            • Totte
              MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 2919

              #5811
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by AC
              I'd say he's more than that

              How much more to help the OP with a second opinion? Mid B?
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              • Bard
                YouTube: NHBard
                • Oct 2010
                • 7803

                #5812
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by AC
                Anthony Ranaudo.

                A-.

                My word.
                No answer haha, but I agree with you on that. Was shocked he got it but I won't complain, am waiting for one of the new rosters with accurate leagues ratings to come out now.
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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #5813
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Owens straight up is probably the closest fit

                  If the universal overrating of Anthony Ranaudo could mercifully come to a close that would be wonderful
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                  • Bard
                    YouTube: NHBard
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 7803

                    #5814
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by AC
                    Owens straight up is probably the closest fit

                    If the universal overrating of Anthony Ranaudo could mercifully come to a close that would be wonderful
                    People overrate him? I've only seen this happen with OS rosters usually, he has upside still but he is getting older(24 is still young, but once a prospect hits 25 I start to get meh feelings for them) and has had setbacks. Guess you hear it more than I do haha.


                    Then I know it isn't my trade but Owens should be in the same boat as Swihart and be untouchable unless Stanton's name is coming up.
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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #5815
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Bard
                      People overrate him? I've only seen this happen with OS rosters usually, he has upside still but he is getting older(24 is still young, but once a prospect hits 25 I start to get meh feelings for them) and has had setbacks. Guess you hear it more than I do haha.


                      Then I know it isn't my trade but Owens should be in the same boat as Swihart and be untouchable unless Stanton's name is coming up.
                      Well I have Red Sox fans tell me he's an easy mid rotation starter with 2 upside and then OSFM rates him an A-.

                      Disagree on either of those guys being untouchable.
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                      • Zim
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 58

                        #5816
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        I came up with this trade because I follow the Cubs and Red Sox. I wish I had more time to follow every teams farm system but I have 3 daughters under the age of 5 and life is very busy.

                        Owens probably would not get traded unless it was a blockbuster. Or perhaps I am also over valuing Owens.

                        Can anyone think of a few other teams that are in need of a bat like Soler that has pitching to give up?

                        I was thinking the O's could use him to replace Cruz has a right handed power bat in 2015 but the closest match I could think of was Harvey and I dont think Baltimore would do it.

                        I am hoping to get a potential number 2 starter back for Soler.

                        Thanks for the help. This thread is always fun to watch and learn from.
                        Last edited by Zim; 07-28-2014, 02:07 PM.

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                        • Bard
                          YouTube: NHBard
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 7803

                          #5817
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by AC
                          Well I have Red Sox fans tell me he's an easy mid rotation starter with 2 upside and then OSFM rates him an A-.

                          Disagree on either of those guys being untouchable.


                          I'm not one of them then, I just see upside in him but don't value him more than a #4 or a mid RP. Ratings wise a B- would suffice 82-84 potential.


                          Agree to disagree here.
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                          • k_mac
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2059

                            #5818
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Bard, not trying to single you out, but it is said way too much in this thread in general. Not every T50/100 prospect is untouchable. Top prospects get traded all of the time. The "untouchable except for Stanton" has to go. Because if they were untouchable, they wouldn't be traded for anyone, even Stanton.

                            Bryce Harper, Trout, Buxton, Bryant.. Those guys are/were untouchable prospects, and in a class of their own. There's a lot of scenarios that could go into a team not trading prospects. Do I think the Cubs would trade Soler, Almora, or Alcantara? No, but they are definitely not untouchable.

                            Owens, Swihart, whoever, I could see moving. Yes, they could probably be packaged with much more for Stanton, but that doesn't seem like a possibility right now. The only person that the Sox have right now that I would consider close to untouchable is Xander.

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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #5819
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              I don't think there's a single untouchable prospect in the league. I basically evaluate that by, "Who's the best player that could realistically get traded? Would I trade this player for him?" Best prospect is Kris Bryant. Would I trade him for Giancarlo Stanton?

                              As long as Scott Boras is his agent, yeah. Yeah, I would.

                              And by extension every worse prospect cannot be untouchable.
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                              • Bard
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 7803

                                #5820
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by k_mac
                                Bard, not trying to single you out, but it is said way too much in this thread in general. Not every T50/100 prospect is untouchable. Top prospects get traded all of the time. The "untouchable except for Stanton" has to go. Because if they were untouchable, they wouldn't be traded for anyone, even Stanton.

                                Bryce Harper, Trout, Buxton, Bryant.. Those guys are/were untouchable prospects, and in a class of their own. There's a lot of scenarios that could go into a team not trading prospects. Do I think the Cubs would trade Soler, Almora, or Alcantara? No, but they are definitely not untouchable.

                                Owens, Swihart, whoever, I could see moving. Yes, they could probably be packaged with much more for Stanton, but that doesn't seem like a possibility right now. The only person that the Sox have right now that I would consider close to untouchable is Xander.
                                Oh no it's cool haha, I view them untouchable because just of how much I like them. Sure they could be dealt off in a deal for a player not named Stanton, I would be pissed about it, but it happens. It is basically me as a fan wants them to be untouchable unless the Sox bring in a huge name for them because I view them as potential big names in the future (of course prospects don't always pan out).


                                I agree with you full heartily but I just don't want to see them go, if that makes sense? Just a fan thing I suppose, you feel that way a bit with your guys I see but I just say untouchable because I lack a better term.
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