MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[BigOscar]

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What would it take to get Byung Ho Park to the Rays? I know they could have taken him when the Twins DFA'd him, but then he had a promising spring. I need someone to replace Rickie Weeks as it's just depressing having him as our platoon firstbaseman

[Tmizzle]

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What would it take to get Byung Ho Park to the Rays? I know they could have taken him when the Twins DFA'd him, but then he had a promising spring. I need someone to replace Rickie Weeks as it's just depressing having him as our platoon firstbaseman

I honestly do not know. I have Park in Triple-A in my franchise as Vargas is hitting very well.

[hampshirestags]

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Alright, I've done as requested. I finished the season 63-99. Biggest goals over the off-season will be moving one of Tomas or Peralta to make room for Bryce Harper. I just offered Harper a 10 year, 310M contract but I haven't simmed to see if he has signed yet. I'm not picking up the contract on Owings and will allow him to hit Free Agency early. Lamb had a terrible second half and ended up going .215 with 14 HR and 58 RBI.

Verdugo and Yamada spent the 2018 season in AAA. Both will be called up in 2019, leaving this as my hopeful defensive lineup before trading anyone.

1B - Marwin Gonzalez
2B - Ian Happ
3B - Jake Lamb
SS - Tetsuto Yamada
LF - Alex Verdugo
CF - Victor Robles
RF - Bryce Harper
C - Walt Pedersen (2017 Draft Pick)

B - Spencer Kieboom
B - Mitch Moreland
B - Brandon Drury
B - Yasmany Tomas
B - David Peralta

If I sign Harper, I think it makes sense to become a buyer this off-season. I have a few valuable chips I can move. Richard Urena, Bo Bichette, Gavin Lux, Socrates Brito, Fritz Oakes (2017 Draft Selection | 20yr | 60 Ovr | High B), Max Pentecost and Andy Yerzy are all available as far as position players are concerned.

In terms of RP, I like your idea of moving some of my established vets into the bullpen over the next two-three years when my young guys are ready to leave the pen for the rotation. Also, does 10-12 with Fedde get me a cheeseburger? As far as FA RP's are concerned, Top 5 are A. Miller (CLE), S. Kelley (WAS), N. Cotts (WAS), S. Romo (WAS) and A. Sanchez (WAS). I think I could realistically pull one of those relievers from Washington, I just don't know which would be the most realistic. I'll have most, alongside Goldschmidt, resign with Washington as they've won a world series (2017) and made the NL Championship game (2018) over the past two years. This also kind of makes me wonder if WAS outbids me for Harper in this situation. They'd have to pay for both Harper and Goldschmidt.

Ha! I didn't mean for you to dump the entire '18 season, just sim out and prove me wrong (which you did!). I actually meant your other rook SP's as Feede should be the best of the bunch and was in the rotation already but 10 wins from a 63 win season gets you a cheesburger next time I'm in Ft. Worth or you're in Tampa.

From bottom to top, I wouldn't worry about WAS outbidding you. They are now in the balloon payments for Max and Strasburg and what they are going to pay Goldy, they just ran out of money. Early IRL signs point to Harper leaving anyway and I could see the Vegas kid headed out west.

I'd sign Miller and let him close providing he's gave his customary numbers in '18. I really like Corbin in the bullpen and you can move Ray/Bradley around as you see fit while working your young arms into the rotation.

Now, let's go shopping for an ace. I'd be curious as to where G.Cole is at this point in the franchise, he should be hitting his last year of arb. Otherwise, who do you want? Who were the top 5 SP's in the AL/NL in '18? Let's get that taken care of first (we can even use Lamb here though he's coming off a down year) and the we can wiggle into moving Thomas during the last two, most expensive years, of his contract. As long as he's pushing 1.5 WAR, he's surplus neutral and we can stick a young piece with him and fill a need of yours with something quality. Tacking onto that, both Ray/Bradley will still hold value at this point, we can move one of them if you like while the other holds a spot so you're not putting 3 rooks into your rotation at once.

[hampshirestags]

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I'm in the first offseason with my Reds franchise and looking to move Votto. He had a great season last year and my team doesn't really need him as I'm not contending right now. So I'm thinking of trading with the Nationals, Angels(just signed Brantley, though i'd need to take Pujols' contract), or Astros. The Dodger just beat the Angels in the World series and those three teams all are playoff ready.

He is owed 6/157 through his age 40 season. You're going to have to come up with an insane amount of cash to move him. Similar to Cano/Pujols/Mauer, his with his current club for as long as he plays baseball.

I am doing a 30-team control franchise and like make semi-realistic trades for teams based on their standings. I am in mid-June and its appearing that the Mets are just going to be middling team unless they improve their offense. They are 7 games out in the division and within 5 of the 2nd wild card spot. But they are bottom 5 in most offensive categories. As expected their pitching has been excellent except for Matt Harvey who did spend sometime on the DL for a hamstring issue but when healthy he has pitched to an ERA of 4.70 and WHIP of 1.33. Everyone else has been healthy and great for them. To me he seems he would be the odd man out with DeGrom, Syndergaard, Lugo, Matz, Gsellman (Filled in for Harvey and pitched to a 2.60 ERA and 1.11 WHIP in 5 starts) pitching great. Wheeler has been solid in long relief it appears.

What kind of return could I get the Mets for Harvey? Am I wrong for thinking that I could use Harvey as trade bait for a bat?

No, you are not wrong to think Harvey could be traded. There have actually been quiet rumors about this. It's going to have to be a really, really good package to get him though so, especially with what just happened to Thor, I don't think we'll see it materialize. However, in your franchise, it seems everyone is healthy so it's possible that could happen. Though you are more looking at high level prospects that still have to prove they can do it at the big level. I think the Cubs are drooling right now.

Just wanted to ask the good folks of this thread a trade question:

I am using the reds. i was hoping EVENTUALLY this season to make a move to get Matz from the Mets. Now in real life, i know the Mets havent given up on him, especially with Noah being hurt. So when Matz is healthy, his value will increase 10 fold.

But this is video game land and was curious what it would take, in everyones eyes, to pull Matz away from flushing... side note, i already released Bronson Arroyo because.... well... Arroyo....

Possibly more than the Reds can spend in trade currency. Garrett would probably have to be involved along with a few other quality pieces that would end up setting you back while Matz leads the rotation.

Had 2 questions on potential trades.

1) Is there any way to get Lourdes Gurriel on the Astros? I know it isnt the most realistic but more of just proper value if I wanted to get him

2) Chris Archer to the Astros, I know there were some rumors about Archer being traded in the offseason and the price was high so curious what you guys think.

1) Like you said, realism obviously tells me no. Value wise perhaps but...

2) TB turned down Martes/Tucker/Paulino/++ in the offseason. Just said no thank you and moved on. A big part of this is they felt Archer's value would be static, if not improve over the year. If you made the ++ 2 in your top 20, I would sleep well knowing I said it was a good deal.

[hampshirestags]

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I made a post a few pages ago about a maybe trading David Robertson and or Nate jones to the nationals or potentially to the Dbacks. But I saw hampshiretags saying Tomas is a DH waiting to happen so I'm wondering if it makes sense for Tomas to go to the white soxs


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Last one since you've asked a couple times and I don't think you ever got a solid answer... Robertson to the Nats would cost Soto or Stevenson/Voth or Cole/+ lottery ticket (very young developmental P). That's to the Nats if they are in a position to overpay (leading the divison, 2 GB of WC, etc. and the bullpen is tanking). He probably goes a little cheaper elsewhere depending on circumstances but the Nats really need someone that can get 3 outs in the 9th. The main reasons he even comes close to getting this kind of package is if he's lockdown for CHW and he's got 1 more year on his deal. 13mm next year gives him a couple of pennies of surplus as long as he's repeating last year of 1.2 WAR but the closer market has gotten crazy dumb over the last 2 years and the Nats couldn't buy themselves a closer so nobody is going there voluntarily.

Honestly, I could swear I just did something similar to this. Maybe I responded to you and forgot? It's very possible.

Edit: I really, really don't see N.Jones moving. He could/should build more value into '18 and still be cheap enough to get a really decent package.

[MrSerendipity]

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Ha! I didn't mean for you to dump the entire '18 season, just sim out and prove me wrong (which you did!). I actually meant your other rook SP's as Feede should be the best of the bunch and was in the rotation already but 10 wins from a 63 win season gets you a cheesburger next time I'm in Ft. Worth or you're in Tampa.

From bottom to top, I wouldn't worry about WAS outbidding you. They are now in the balloon payments for Max and Strasburg and what they are going to pay Goldy, they just ran out of money. Early IRL signs point to Harper leaving anyway and I could see the Vegas kid headed out west.

I'd sign Miller and let him close providing he's gave his customary numbers in '18. I really like Corbin in the bullpen and you can move Ray/Bradley around as you see fit while working your young arms into the rotation.

Now, let's go shopping for an ace. I'd be curious as to where G.Cole is at this point in the franchise, he should be hitting his last year of arb. Otherwise, who do you want? Who were the top 5 SP's in the AL/NL in '18? Let's get that taken care of first (we can even use Lamb here though he's coming off a down year) and the we can wiggle into moving Thomas during the last two, most expensive years, of his contract. As long as he's pushing 1.5 WAR, he's surplus neutral and we can stick a young piece with him and fill a need of yours with something quality. Tacking onto that, both Ray/Bradley will still hold value at this point, we can move one of them if you like while the other holds a spot so you're not putting 3 rooks into your rotation at once.

Maybe we'll get a BAL/TEX ALCS some day and we can pair up for my burger.

SIGNED: RF Bryce Harper
SIGNED: RP Andrew Miller

Washington resigned Goldschmidt and signed both LeMahieu and Blackmon. No idea what they intend to do with LeMahieu given they have Murphy and Turner.

In trying to be realistic, I'll only try to swing a deal with a team that will be looking to rebuild. There are pitchers I'd love but many play for competing teams, even Tampa Bay had an unexpected season last year. That leaves me with looking at these three guys:

DET - Michael Fulmer | 8-12 | 4.83 ERA | 26YR A POT
OAK - Sonny Gray | 17-9 | 2.90 ERA | 29YR B POT
PIT - Gerrit Cole | 12-10 | 3.71 ERA | 28YR A POT

Out of those three, Gray had the best season. Oakland is also the team most in need of a beefed up farm. With that said, I have some concerns about Gray's reliability. We know of his real life 2016 fall off. 2017 he didn't do much better with a 4.46 ERA. If we believe that 2018 is a return to form, this might be a really good fit for both teams. Cole is an interesting option but I don't know if he's my first choice. Despite Fulmer's numbers, I really like him. Still, Gray seems to be the most logical fit.

[dran1984]

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What are the values of these 2 guys :

IF Marwin Gonzalez - Hou

OF Travis Janksowski - SD

[MOJOMORRO]

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Nearing the trade deadline in my Pirates Franchise, and I stumbled upon an interesting potential deal.

LAD Receives: OF Andrew McCutchen (.292, 18 HR, 61 RBI), CP/RP Tony Watson (2.21 ERA, 30 Saves, 37 IP) (Both guys were All-Stars for NL), UTIL Adam Frazier

PIT Receives: OF Joc Peterson (.275, 19 HR, 46 RBI), RP Yimi Garcia, RP Yasiel Sierra, (I was considering adding the CF Verdugo but I don't think that is realistic)

The reason I like this is because the Pirates are out of it, sitting about 7 games out of a wildcard and 15 out of the division. McCutchen has returned to All-Star from this year, and the dodgers can afford to pay him. They also get a lockdown lefty in that pen, as they can move Watson back to a setup role, and then Frazier is just a utility guy who can be used by the team. In return, we get a young potential star in Joc Peterson and a couple of relievers that would mostly get blocked by Watson moving in. Peterson could give us a power bat to build around.

Thoughts? Am I out of my mind? Any other pieces I might be able to add to sweeten the deal up? I drafter two very promising pitchers so I could throw in a young guy in the organization (Glasnow, Kuhl, Keller, Kingham)

[sc050610]

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No, you are not wrong to think Harvey could be traded. There have actually been quiet rumors about this. It's going to have to be a really, really good package to get him though so, especially with what just happened to Thor, I don't think we'll see it materialize. However, in your franchise, it seems everyone is healthy so it's possible that could happen. Though you are more looking at high level prospects that still have to prove they can do it at the big level. I think the Cubs are drooling right now.



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Don't have the game in front of me for potentials, but would OF Eddy Martinez and 1B/3B Jeimer Candelario be sufficient return for Harvey? Besides maybe Ian Happ and Jimenez who I think they will eventually find spots for both, I think mostly everyone is blocked for the foreseeable future.

Thoughts?

[bestbrother]

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What could Kershaw command? Im going to have to blow up teh Dodgers, nothing is set in stone, I just need a marker to work from as there are deals out there but I dont want to burn the AI (not that the AI would lose out by getting Kershaw).

However whoever takes someone like Kershaw is going to have to eat either Turners or Gonzalez contract as they are absolute tripe for me.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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What could Kershaw command? Im going to have to blow up teh Dodgers, nothing is set in stone, I just need a marker to work from as there are deals out there but I dont want to burn the AI (not that the AI would lose out by getting Kershaw).

However whoever takes someone like Kershaw is going to have to eat either Turners or Gonzalez contract as they are absolute tripe for me.

So Kershaw is hard because he has a clause in his contract where he can opt out the Free Agency after being traded. So he is basically an expensive rental. But he's the best pitcher on the planet. So I still think you could get the best prospect in any team for him. Getting to add Kershaw to your playoff lineup is huge but he has to go to a contender


Also this is hugely unrealistic but I'm sure you knew that

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[bestbrother]

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So Kershaw is hard because he has a clause in his contract where he can opt out the Free Agency after being traded. So he is basically an expensive rental. But he's the best pitcher on the planet. So I still think you could get the best prospect in any team for him. Getting to add Kershaw to your playoff lineup is huge but he has to go to a contender


Also this is hugely unrealistic but I'm sure you knew that

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Yeah I thought as much, tbh I dont think id ever trade him.. he is one of the pieces that made me want to be the Dodgers. BUT we are crap, there is no 2 ways about it, I cannot hit with the players we have and no matter how well I pitch, things wont get better.

Im desperate, im a desperate man

[bestbrother]

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OK if someone could advise me how best to piece together a AI friendly deal for

Cabrera and Verlander out of Detroit.

[HolyStroke3]

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Casilla has blown a save for the final time!!

OAK (53-47, T1st): CP A.J. Ramos (83 OVR, 23/29 Saves 1.61 WHIP 53 K 36 IP)
MIA (47-51, 4th): SP D. Mengden (74 OVR/85 Potential, 4-3 5.10 ERA 56 K 60 IP in AAA), SP C. Meisner (62 OVR/72 Pot/#29 Prospect), CF Skye Bolt (53 OVR/73 Pot/#30 Pros)

[hampshirestags]

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Nearing the trade deadline in my Pirates Franchise, and I stumbled upon an interesting potential deal.

LAD Receives: OF Andrew McCutchen (.292, 18 HR, 61 RBI), CP/RP Tony Watson (2.21 ERA, 30 Saves, 37 IP) (Both guys were All-Stars for NL), UTIL Adam Frazier

PIT Receives: OF Joc Peterson (.275, 19 HR, 46 RBI), RP Yimi Garcia, RP Yasiel Sierra, (I was considering adding the CF Verdugo but I don't think that is realistic)

The reason I like this is because the Pirates are out of it, sitting about 7 games out of a wildcard and 15 out of the division. McCutchen has returned to All-Star from this year, and the dodgers can afford to pay him. They also get a lockdown lefty in that pen, as they can move Watson back to a setup role, and then Frazier is just a utility guy who can be used by the team. In return, we get a young potential star in Joc Peterson and a couple of relievers that would mostly get blocked by Watson moving in. Peterson could give us a power bat to build around.

Thoughts? Am I out of my mind? Any other pieces I might be able to add to sweeten the deal up? I drafter two very promising pitchers so I could throw in a young guy in the organization (Glasnow, Kuhl, Keller, Kingham)

You're not out of your mind, just barking up the wrong tree. Peterson is not a FA until '21 and (according to the lines you published) is comparable to the production of Cutch. Why would I trade him for a closer rental (after I just paid, arguably, the best closer in the NL) and 1.5 years of Cutch that is about to hit his depreciation cycle head on?

I don't think this is a good fit for LAD but if you feel you really want to move these two to the Dodgers, you're looking at prospects (as you mentioned Verdugo) and not my MLB CF. Maybe Puig here but it's still a bad fit.