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  • My993C2
    MVP
    • Sep 2012
    • 1588

    #556
    Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

    Originally posted by trackstar121388
    The first temporary shift to a reliever doesn't change your archetype.
    Good to know. The team has played 29 games and if I am not mistaken the first positions swaps occur after game #30 is played, so this is something that is coming down to pipe very very soon. To be safe I am going to keep a backup save file around. But if I am not going to be told to change archetypes, I will go along with the first pitcher swap from starter to the closer as I know when it happened to me in MLB 17 I was only the closer for 5 or 6 games before being restored as a starter. But I will be rejecting any position swaps after this. I will take my chances. I am in no rush to be called up to the Show with this pitcher.

    Thanks for the info ...

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    • ingey1968
      Rookie
      • Apr 2010
      • 148

      #557
      Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

      has anyone ever been drafted by the tigers, position player. im not into pitchers. for the life of me i cant find a position that the tigers will draft

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      • trackstar121388
        Rookie
        • Apr 2014
        • 238

        #558
        Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

        Originally posted by My993C2
        Good to know. The team has played 29 games and if I am not mistaken the first positions swaps occur after game #30 is played, so this is something that is coming down to pipe very very soon. To be safe I am going to keep a backup save file around. But if I am not going to be told to change archetypes, I will go along with the first pitcher swap from starter to the closer as I know when it happened to me in MLB 17 I was only the closer for 5 or 6 games before being restored as a starter. But I will be rejecting any position swaps after this. I will take my chances. I am in no rush to be called up to the Show with this pitcher.

        Thanks for the info ...
        No problem, I was put into 3 games over a 15 game span as a closer than moved back to a starter.

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        • My993C2
          MVP
          • Sep 2012
          • 1588

          #559
          Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

          Let the position change war(s) begin. I have four RTTS players going and only one of them has swapped positions. The other three have rejected the swaps and are dealing with the consequences now.

          1) My accelerated AA player was a SS but is now 3B. I hope he gets swapped back to SS soon. He's played about 13 games at 3B , so perhaps it's not time yet. But I hope it will happen soon as I simply do not like playing 3B

          2) My main AA 2B was asked to swap to 3B after the 30th game last night, but see above why I rejected it.

          3) My AA pitcher was also asked to swap to CP. I know I was told he would not be forced to change archetypes at least on the first swap. But I don't care. I am in no rush with this guy, I am happy to keep him in AA for now if it means developing his skills as a starter.

          4) My AAA pitcher swapped from starter to CP in MLB 17 and was restored as a starter while I was still using him in MLB 17. However I migrated him over to MLB 18 the other day and he was immediately asked to swap to CP. I rejected it not only because I want him to be a starter but also because I did not want to lose his "Control Freak" archetype. He was benched for the equivalent of one start. He then pitched six innings of a game where he gave up 2 earned runs and took the win and immediately upon returning to the club house met with the manager who again wanted him to swap to a CP, and again was rejected and apparently was benched again? However it is confusing as he is still listed as the scheduled starter three games from now. I am also at the AAA All Star break and saw a message that he was invited to the All Star game, but did not have time to play it yet. Plus I am not even sure why he was invited to the AAA All Star game. He's only been in AAA for five starts. I have ramped up the difficulty for him pitching at the HoF level and the AAA hitters will punish him if I am complacent with how I pitch in these games.
          Last edited by My993C2; 04-13-2018, 10:36 AM.

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          • trackstar121388
            Rookie
            • Apr 2014
            • 238

            #560
            Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

            Originally posted by My993C2
            Let the position change war(s) begin. I have four RTTS players going and only one of them has swapped positions. The other three have rejected the swaps and are dealing with the consequences now.

            1) My accelerated AA player was a SS but is now 3B. I hope he gets swapped back to SS soon. He's played about 13 games at 3B , so perhaps it's not time yet. But I hope it will happen soon as I simply do not like playing 3B

            2) My main AA 2B was asked to swap to 3B after the 30th game last night, but see above why I rejected it.

            3) My AA pitcher was also asked to swap to CP. I know I was told he would not be forced to change archetypes at least on the first swap. But I don't care. I am in no rush with this guy, I am happy to keep him in AA for now if it means developing his skills as a starter.

            4) My AAA pitcher swapped from starter to CP in MLB 17 and was restored as a starter while I was still using him in MLB 17. However I migrated him over to MLB 18 the other day and he was immediately asked to swap to CP. I rejected it not only because I want him to be a starter but also because I did not want to lose his "Control Freak" archetype. He was benched for the equivalent of one start. He then pitched six innings of a game where he gave up 2 earned runs and took the win and immediately upon returning to the club house met with the manager who again wanted him to swap to a CP, and again was rejected and apparently was benched again? However it is confusing as he is still listed as the scheduled starter three games from now. I am also at the AAA All Star break and saw a message that he was invited to the All Star game, but did not have time to play it yet. Plus I am not even sure why he was invited to the AAA All Star game. He's only been in AAA for five starts. I have ramped up the difficulty for him pitching at the HoF level and the AAA hitters will punish him if I am complacent with how I pitch in these games.
            1- I think it's about 15 games or so. That's how long it was for my SP even though I only played in 3 of them.

            2- Any consequences of that?

            3-Did this have consequences too?

            4-How is a control freak working out for you? I have a flamethrower import (4 seam, Change, Slider, 12-6 Curve, and Cutter), as well as a Plain Filthy one I just started (Running, Circle Change, Screwball, and Fork(I might go back to a previous save of him that did not take on the Fork although it's been good for me I just wasn't envisioning him with that pitch at the start)) I also have a rockstar closer import.(4 seam, Change, Cutter, Slider, and Knuckle Curve)

            I additionally have imports of a field general Cather, a ballhawk CF, a Mr. Reliable SS, and a Power Corner 3B. All have not regressed to their caps so I don't know how they necessarily play at their caps.

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            • My993C2
              MVP
              • Sep 2012
              • 1588

              #561
              Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

              Originally posted by trackstar121388
              1- I think it's about 15 games or so. That's how long it was for my SP even though I only played in 3 of them.

              2- Any consequences of that?

              3-Did this have consequences too?
              It's too early to tell what the long or medium term consequences will be for the AA 2B and AA pitcher. The short term consequence was that 2B was only benched for two games (the team's 31st and 32nd game) and he is in the lineup for the next game. However since I play full games with these two, there was not enough real world time in my night last night to play the game. So I will play it tonight once I get home from work.

              I can't recall when the pitcher is scheduled to pitch next, but it wasn't a long time. Only a few days and these two players (while using separate save files) are kind of like my own Ohtani combo. The 2B plays 4 games and sits the 5th, while the pitcher gets his chance to play. Right now it works for me as they are both on the same team. However if this all gets to be too much, I would drop the pitcher.

              Originally posted by trackstar121388
              4-How is a control freak working out for you? I have a flamethrower import (4 seam, Change, Slider, 12-6 Curve, and Cutter), as well as a Plain Filthy one I just started (Running, Circle Change, Screwball, and Fork(I might go back to a previous save of him that did not take on the Fork although it's been good for me I just wasn't envisioning him with that pitch at the start)) I also have a rockstar closer import.(4 seam, Change, Cutter, Slider, and Knuckle Curve)

              I additionally have imports of a field general Cather, a ballhawk CF, a Mr. Reliable SS, and a Power Corner 3B. All have not regressed to their caps so I don't know how they necessarily play at their caps.
              Both my pitchers are control freaks as I thought there would be a better chance for them to stay on as starters. The flamethrower and plain filthy archetypes while both starters in MLB 18 also seem like they could transfer easily to relievers and/or closers. Anyway, both pitchers are played at the HoF pitching difficulty and I do need to be careful with both guys. But if I am not mistaken the AA pitcher is actually at All Star because of how RTTS drops one level when at AA and then increases a difficulty level when playing in the Show. Plus I have noticed a slight difference in the games between the two in that I need to be even more careful how I pitch at the AAA level. Of course the AAA pitcher is also facing better batters.

              Both guys throw a 4SFB, the Changeup, Slider and the Knuckle Curve. But I added a fifth pitch to the AAA guy prior to moving him to MLB 18 and that was the sinker. I want to use the sinker to try and induce ground balls when need be. His control of the sinker is not bad, but both pitchers still have plenty of work to do with their respective control and the AAA pitcher is maxed out on several current CAP categories right now though luckily he was able to increase his current CAP a little on H/9 after his last game which probably is the pitcher's most important category if I understand how the pitcher attributes work against the batter's contact attributes.

              Finally, I am glad to see I am not the only one with multiple RTTS players. I definitely need to be careful when I save their files. I know I could/should keep extra files around for each player as a backup in case I accident overwrite one player. But having backup files only adds to the clutter in the folder and it appears that we can only upload one RTTS file at a time to the Cloud?
              Last edited by My993C2; 04-13-2018, 02:51 PM.

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              • Robo COP
                Pro
                • Feb 2012
                • 911

                #562
                Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                I don’t know where this “game increases difficulty level in the majors” thing comes from at all. I made it to the majors by 70 ovr and there’s no way I hit as well as I am against mlb pitchers on hof difficulty with such low hitting stats on my RttS player.

                Maybe there’s truth behind the difficulty lvl being bumped down in the minors, but I don’t think there’s any truth to it being bumped up in the majors at all. It’s just back to what you have it set on

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                • oilersfan99
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 315

                  #563
                  Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                  Originally posted by Robo COP
                  I don’t know where this “game increases difficulty level in the majors” thing comes from at all. I made it to the majors by 70 ovr and there’s no way I hit as well as I am against mlb pitchers on hof difficulty with such low hitting stats on my RttS player.

                  Maybe there’s truth behind the difficulty lvl being bumped down in the minors, but I don’t think there’s any truth to it being bumped up in the majors at all. It’s just back to what you have it set on
                  I'm pretty sure the majors is what you set it on, triple a is 1 level lower and double a is 2 levels lower.

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                  • My993C2
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1588

                    #564
                    Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                    Originally posted by Robo COP
                    I don’t know where this “game increases difficulty level in the majors” thing comes from at all. I made it to the majors by 70 ovr and there’s no way I hit as well as I am against mlb pitchers on hof difficulty with such low hitting stats on my RttS player.

                    Maybe there’s truth behind the difficulty lvl being bumped down in the minors, but I don’t think there’s any truth to it being bumped up in the majors at all. It’s just back to what you have it set on
                    I am relatively new to the RTTS mode so I am only going on what others have said from previous years concerning increasing or decreasing the difficulty levels. Regardless of how it works, I will be adjusting my levels and/or sliders throughout my RTTS player careers as they progress to ensure that 1) I am challenged with my games, but also 2) I want a certain degree of realism with my games. But realism balanced with entertainment to keep me wanting to come back for more.

                    I am presently pitching on HoF with the sliders set to basically what Amour and Sword recommends with minor tweaks and my hitting is set to All Star and Fastball slider speed is set at a 9 while off speed is set to the default 5.
                    Last edited by My993C2; 04-13-2018, 03:46 PM.

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                    • bcruise
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23274

                      #565
                      Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                      Originally posted by Robo COP
                      I don’t know where this “game increases difficulty level in the majors” thing comes from at all. I made it to the majors by 70 ovr and there’s no way I hit as well as I am against mlb pitchers on hof difficulty with such low hitting stats on my RttS player.

                      Maybe there’s truth behind the difficulty lvl being bumped down in the minors, but I don’t think there’s any truth to it being bumped up in the majors at all. It’s just back to what you have it set on
                      This is where it comes from (along with similar things said by the devs on OS in past years):



                      I'm not letting this get lost in the mists of time and let people start thinking it wasn't confirmed fact.

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                      • trackstar121388
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 238

                        #566
                        Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                        Originally posted by My993C2
                        It's too early to tell what the long or medium term consequences will be for the AA 2B and AA pitcher. The short term consequence was that 2B was only benched for two games (the team's 31st and 32nd game) and he is in the lineup for the next game. However since I play full games with these two, there was not enough real world time in my night last night to play the game. So I will play it tonight once I get home from work.

                        I can't recall when the pitcher is scheduled to pitch next, but it wasn't a long time. Only a few days and these two players (while using separate save files) are kind of like my own Ohtani combo. The 2B plays 4 games and sits the 5th, while the pitcher gets his chance to play. Right now it works for me as they are both on the same team. However if this all gets to be too much, I would drop the pitcher.



                        Both my pitchers are control freaks as I thought there would be a better chance for them to stay on as starters. The flamethrower and plain filthy archetypes while both starters in MLB 18 also seem like they could transfer easily to relievers and/or closers. Anyway, both pitchers are played at the HoF pitching difficulty and I do need to be careful with both guys. But if I am not mistaken the AA pitcher is actually at All Star because of how RTTS drops one level when at AA and then increases a difficulty level when playing in the Show. Plus I have noticed a slight difference in the games between the two in that I need to be even more careful how I pitch at the AAA level. Of course the AAA pitcher is also facing better batters.

                        Both guys throw a 4SFB, the Changeup, Slider and the Knuckle Curve. But I added a fifth pitch to the AAA guy prior to moving him to MLB 18 and that was the sinker. I want to use the sinker to try and induce ground balls when need be. His control of the sinker is not bad, but both pitchers still have plenty of work to do with their respective control and the AAA pitcher is maxed out on several current CAP categories right now though luckily he was able to increase his current CAP a little on H/9 after his last game which probably is the pitcher's most important category if I understand how the pitcher attributes work against the batter's contact attributes.

                        Finally, I am glad to see I am not the only one with multiple RTTS players. I definitely need to be careful when I save their files. I know I could/should keep extra files around for each player as a backup in case I accident overwrite one player. But having backup files only adds to the clutter in the folder and it appears that we can only upload one RTTS file at a time to the Cloud?
                        You can only save one on the in game cloud but I've used a previous save from the systems cloud to recover a save I'd accidentally saved over

                        Sent from my SM-G950U using Operation Sports mobile app

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                        • Robo COP
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 911

                          #567
                          Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                          Originally posted by bcruise
                          This is where it comes from (along with similar things said by the devs on OS in past years):



                          I'm not letting this get lost in the mists of time and let people start thinking it wasn't confirmed fact.
                          Right. So I was correct. The majors is whatever your difficulty is set on, not +1. AAA is -1 and AA is -2

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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #568
                            Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                            Originally posted by Robo COP
                            Right. So I was correct. The majors is whatever your difficulty is set on, not +1. AAA is -1 and AA is -2
                            I really don't feel like explaining this all again, so just take a look at this thread from a short while ago - it's about pitching, but both RTTS hitting and pitching (and player lock) adjust their difficulty in this regard.



                            There is no other explanation for the catcher's glove and pitch suggestion showing up when the user selects All-Star at the AA level, and then it disappearing by itself when they get promoted. There is an option for having the API show up all the time, but that wasn't in play here. That is the jump from Veteran to All-Star, provable in any mode you choose - if you leave API at Default, it will behave the same way no matter what mode you're in.

                            For the user's All-Star selected difficulty:

                            AA = Veteran
                            AAA = Actual All-Star
                            MLB = HOF

                            One more thing - I mentioned player lock earlier and that it behaves the same way. If you start a regular play now MLB offline game vs the CPU, All-Star hitting difficulty and switch to player lock in the middle of a player's at-bat, you will see an immediate shrink in PCI size. This reflects the fact that the game is now operating under that difficulty shift rule - and that it's actually one level higher under the hood than what you selected. The reason I specified to check this on a middle-ground level - All-Star - is because if you put your difficulty on, say, Legend and did this there would be no size change - because the difficulty is already capped and cannot go higher than legend.

                            And I'll add the usual disclaimer that none of this applies to dynamic difficulty. Your level is always what it says on that setting.

                            ....Oh well, I guess I ended up explaining it again anyway. Couldn't help myself.
                            Last edited by bcruise; 04-14-2018, 02:20 AM.

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                            • Robo COP
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 911

                              #569
                              Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                              I have a hard time believing I'm a .450 hitter on HoF

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                              • My993C2
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 1588

                                #570
                                Re: Official MLB 18 : Road to the Show Thread

                                Originally posted by trackstar121388
                                Any consequences of that?
                                I now know what the consequences of refusing the position changes will be, at least for one of my characters. Possible for all of them. Only time will tell.

                                Last night I went to go play this All Star game that my AAA pitcher was supposedly invited to. I guess he rode the bench all game, because nothing happened. I just simmed over the calendar date. Then before I could do anything I was called into the AAA manager's office where he informed me I was going to the Show. After this I am in Clint Hurdle's office, manager of the Pittsburgh Pirates where he once again asked me to swap to being a late game reliever. I of course rejected it, and the next thing you know I was being traded to the Padres. The Padres are a last place team, but at least with them, they were willing to let me be one of their starters. So there you have it, I saved the file and I am now in the Show. Oh and this character a 72 OVR was developed in MLB 17 with carefully targeted training points. He only ever played one game in MLB 18. I am tempted to go back to MLB 17 and see if he gets promoted and traded there as well.

                                Also, I went back to replay the meeting with Clint Hurdle, but this time I accepted the position swap. However it did not matter. They still traded me to the Padres and I ended up deleting that file. I see no point in being a starter and a reliever for the Padres with two different RTTS save files.

                                So where does this leave me with my other AA characters? Well I highly suspect they too will be traded down the road and any idea I had of doing a Shohei Ohtani RTTS thing likely won't happen beyond AA as I can't see the 2B and pitcher getting traded to the same teams. I will continue to slog away with both of them in AA doing full games. For them it's always been about the journey not the destination. But I also suspect at some point I may be abandoning the AA pitcher. But you never know. Perhaps in time I will abandon the Padres pitcher instead if I like how this AA pitcher develops over time better.
                                Last edited by My993C2; 04-14-2018, 09:01 AM.

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