MLB The Show 21: Stadium Creator and Next-Gen Details

[pingponggame]

Re: MLB The Show 21: Stadium Creator and Next-Gen Details

I can certainly understand some of the gripe regarding a lackluster stream. There are many “little things” that have been pointed out in the next-gen captures of the trailers by many members here in OS - why not take 5-10 minutes of the stream and show them off? It feels to me that it was an opportunity lost. This could have easily been the most detailed stream, imo.

As a game developer, wouldn’t a new platform be the perfect opportunity to showcase the skill of your team? Give your artists the spotlight and let their work shine. Stadium creator was a large undertaking, yes. But that is only part of the equation in terms of next gen. There was assumingely a good amount of work done to make the game “next-gen” that wasn’t given the love and attention in the stream that it perhaps deserved. Why not give some love to the texture artists? What changes were made to the MLB stadiums that makes them “more detailed” than what’s gone before? What about the new rain effects I saw on a previous stream? Infield dirt markings? What about audio/crowd? Birds in the sky? There are plenty of things to have been discussed. For those developers whos work was skipped over, I can’t help but feel a bit bad for them — especially since the presentation cut to a topic that wasn’t supposed to be touched on (that has an entire future stream dedicated to it already).

It’s just a personal feeling, but this could have been presented with a much clearer priority list. Maybe some feel the same, maybe some don’t (and that’s okay!). We all love this game, and because of that we all get a little passionate about it.

[TheBleedingRed21]

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Quite a few folks on here Bought a PS3/PS4 just because of the The Show. I know I did. Was a dedicated PC gamer until I was at a friends house and played The Show '07 or '08 I can't remember. Went out that day and bought a PS3. Been a Playstation guy ever since.

You bought the PS3 and PS4 at launch just to play The Show and nothing else (cause I was referring to his comment relating to the price)? Huh.. guess it happens. LOL.

[slthree]

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Given that they mentioned they were thinking about Stadium Creator as much as 10 years ago and started really giving it serious consideration 5 years ago, it's obvious that it's a very difficult thing to include.

I am beyond happy that we're getting it even if it isn't as full functioning as some would like it to be. I found the stream fascinating because I didn't realize it took one person three full months to render just one stadium.

I have a PS5 and I have an Xbox Series X so I have the option to get it for free on game pass and I'm still leaning toward buying it for the PS5.

I want to support SDS, especially after we learned that that Stadium Creator guy has been there for 18 years. I love that kind of company loyalty and you know a good developer wouldn't be there that long if they didn't treat him well).

I have absolutely no complaints about this feature and I can't wait to tinker with it. For any of you guys who don't have a next gen yet, I sincerely hope you find one (if you want one) so you can enjoy this feature.

It would be fantastic if SDS announced that anyone buying the currently gen game would be eligible for a great deal on the next gen game once they get their new consoles.

[JaFFiTh]

MLB The Show 21: Stadium Creator and Next-Gen Details

Who would buy a console for just one game? LOL. Better be one hell of a game.

To be fair.. the 60FPS and 4K is worth the upgrade alone. Was on MLB 20 PS4 version playing on PS5. If 21 isn’t your cup of tea, people playing 20 on the PS5 will feel a huge upgrade instantly.

I did. PS2-PS4 pro mostly for the show. I also play other games but buying the PlayStation systems was cause of the show. I had an X-box before that. Looks like I’ll be sticking with the Pro for now. Not enough upgrade or information to convince me to attempt to buy ps5 yet (if there’s even any available). Only thing that seems to be new so far is the stadium creator. So it’ll be the show on pro this year for me. Saves me money, can’t complain there lol.


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[Bullit]

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You bought the PS3 and PS4 at launch just to play The Show and nothing else (cause I was referring to his comment relating to the price)? Huh.. guess it happens. LOL.

Well not at launch for the PS3 but I bought it solely to play The Show at first. Sure I ended up playing a few other titles. The PS4 was bought at launch just for The Show and the intro to carry over saves.

[bigd51]

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Given that they mentioned they were thinking about Stadium Creator as much as 10 years ago and started really giving it serious consideration 5 years ago, it's obvious that it's a very difficult thing to include.

I am beyond happy that we're getting it even if it isn't as full functioning as some would like it to be. I found the stream fascinating because I didn't realize it took one person three full months to render just one stadium.

No one is denying the technical dedication it took to get create-a-stadium in the game.

The problem is that time and resources could've been used to improve other, more important aspects of the game, like commentary, other presentation aspects, better uniform physics (similar to NBA 2K), CPU-generated players that don't look like they came straight out of a coloring book, franchise mode improvements, RTTS improvements, etc. We've been waiting for a lot of these things as long as people have been waiting for create-a-stadium.

Let's be real... they could've just made a basic create-a-stadium feature and people that wanted the feature would've still been happy. Instead, they dumped the majority of their resources into the feature so they could have that sexy, back-of-the-box feature to brag about.

Is it a deep and impressive feat? Yes.

Was it worth sacrificing other aspects of a next-gen game that desperately need improving that an equal amount of people have been waiting years for as well? Absolutely not.

[Archie56]

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The only reason I ever bought PlayStations was for The Show. And then I got into the best adventure franchise ever in Uncharted. Then God of War, Little Big Planet, Last of Us...etc. but at first it was soley bc of The Show

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[KnightTemplar]

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.... CPU-generated players that don't look like they came straight out of a coloring book

Now you’ve set me off, lol. If there’s ONE thing I can pinpoint that really gives me that WTH is this moment.......it’s this.

[douggoud]

Re: MLB The Show 21: Stadium Creator and Next-Gen Details

Let's be real... they could've just made a basic create-a-stadium feature and people that wanted the feature would've still been happy. Instead, they dumped the majority of their resources into the feature so they could have that sexy, back-of-the-box feature to brag about.

Yeah no they wouldn't. People would have complained about it and been like "we waited 15 years for this?" (In comparison to what MVP 05 had). And how do we know for a fact that the time it took to make this that they would have been able to add everything or some of what you mentioned?

Me personally, I'm glad they added the stadium creator as it is. The game looks fine as is. Is it perfect? No, no game is. But it certainly isn't as bad as some of you make it out to be.

[BlueSkies77]

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You bought the PS3 and PS4 at launch just to play The Show and nothing else (cause I was referring to his comment relating to the price)? Huh.. guess it happens. LOL.

MLB 08 The Show was glorious at the time. Easily worth 560 bucks. I remember being in awe with the game using replays just to look at the details of the stadiums. It was the first true PS3 the show game.

[bigd51]

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Me personally, I'm glad they added the stadium creator as it is. The game looks fine as is. Is it perfect? No, no game is. But it certainly isn't as bad as some of you make it out to be.

That's great for you. But an in-depth create-a-stadium isn't enough to justify a next-gen game when those resources could've gone to more important aspects of the game.

How do we know those resources would've gone into more important aspects of the game? That's common sense.

Santa Monica/Cory Barlog spent 5 years completely revamping God of War and came away w/ the best game of the series b/c they committed to actual improvement across the board.

What is SDS's excuse for a "next-gen" reveal after 15 years?

[TripleCrown]

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You bought the PS3 and PS4 at launch just to play The Show and nothing else (cause I was referring to his comment relating to the price)? Huh.. guess it happens. LOL.

I did. Played a full 178 games season, all pitches no quick count spread over 2 versions ‘19 & ‘20.

Well I bought 3 more games over those 2 years but never finished them. Was always going back to my favorite sport game.

So yes it happens ;-)

[joe_canons]

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I hear ya. I wasn't really expecting to be Wow'd necessarily by graphic improvements given their past transition to next gen. I have notice they have sneeked in brief clips of real next gen gameplay in a few videos (the dirt is the give away, it looks more detailed and looks to show slide and track marks on it)

but at the very least talk about what has been done, obviously improvements were made here and there. I just would if liked to hear about it in better detail than a quick mention on a teaser trailer for the stream..

Wait, so you’re saying that mainly we have been seeing current gen gameplay that’s been captured on next gen console?

Care to post some examples of actual next gen gameplay you’re talking about?

I am hoping that this is the case and we haven’t truly seen what the next gen version of this game actually looks like.


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[hitman23]

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This is why I am not purchasing the game this year. Nothing appeals to me. Could care less about a stadium creator.

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[hitman23]

Re: MLB The Show 21 Feature Premiere Starting Now - Next-Gen & Stadium Creator

Hoping for some next generation only features beyond just stadium creator.

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Don't hold your breath.

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