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  • lemarflacco
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 1001

    #31
    Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

    I totally empathize with the rosters makers but not being a roster maker, it doesn't really effect me. Hopefully it won't discourage Ridin and folk by having to redo rosters every year. They def should be charging for their product with this update.

    And im not even looking for big changes in franchise. Im a realist. While a total reboot would be awesome like nba 2k, im not confident it wouldn't take 6 years to get that new system right lol just fix the simple things that wrong with the franchise now and I personally am cool for like 3 or 4 years.

    (2k had a bug they JUST fixed where g league players ratings would go all the way up after the first year and to fix this you'd have to edit like 100's of players at the end of every year)

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    • lemarflacco
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 1001

      #32
      Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

      Originally posted by TheWarmWind
      That logic holds up until the point you realize that they have not and will not make meaningful updates to franchise, no matter the circumstances.

      I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

      I'll continue to stick with 20 until franchise gets an update worth consideration.

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      So I ask, if they just fixed bullpen logic/ roster logic, is that a significant enough change?

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      • BigOscar
        MVP
        • May 2016
        • 2971

        #33
        Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

        Well they've announced it'll be free on gamespass, so I guess I will still be getting it, but honestly I wouldn't give these guys a penny of my money these past few years. The zero dollars would adequately cover the amount of effort they've put into franchise, which has gone from staying exactly the same every year, to getting actively worse.

        It's hugely disappointing and sadly I doubt it will change. The money is in mobile phone style games, not in depth single player games that don't "suggest" you spend a bit more money all the time.

        Franchise is living on borrowed time, as soon as an issue arises that will take a solid amount of development time to fix, that aspect will be removed as it's easier. Unless they discover a way to monetise it, they simply won't put the resources into it to keep it viable

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        • Holy Toledo
          Rookie
          • Apr 2019
          • 103

          #34
          Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

          Originally posted by countryboy
          Do they want it to return? Yes

          Will it return? In an ideal world yes, but it’s a difficult feature to maintain while also attempting to add things and features the fans want within franchise mode.

          So I don’t know even if they can definitively say whether it will return or not.


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          The problem with this argument is they are NOT making updates to franchise AND removed y2y saves.

          And they absolutely can bring it back if they wanted too. The problem is it would take valuable time away from them releasing a Geronimo Berroa diamond boss card in the 7th inning.


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          Last edited by Holy Toledo; 01-31-2022, 06:21 PM.

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          • ninertravel
            MVP
            • Aug 2015
            • 4833

            #35
            Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

            Originally posted by lemarflacco
            So I ask, if they just fixed bullpen logic/ roster logic, is that a significant enough change?
            the BP logic was a lot better last year (except for long reliver guys in that slot they were left in to long)

            They still need to fix a few things so that setup guys are used in games and NOT just with 1 or 2 run leads in the 8th innings. I feel a lot of my come backs are because of boneheaded CPU BP moves

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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
              Once in a Lifetime Memory
              • Dec 2006
              • 17294

              #36
              Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

              Seems like it'll be another year of MLB 20 and Super Mega Baseball for me but we'll see. If the updates to franchise and or RTTS are worthwhile, I'm not against buying it but my hopes are not very high.
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              • Caulfield
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 10986

                #37
                Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                Originally posted by Holy Toledo
                The problem with this argument is they are NOT making updates to franchise AND removed y2y saves.


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                while the Studio isn't making every upgrade everyone wants, the upgrades however minimum, are there. for one instance in 21, 93 man rosters. would most of us preferred 100? sure, but by now we all expect baby steps. that's the track record. and for the record, I was extremely displeased with the decision to kill y2y saves.
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                • Holy Toledo
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 103

                  #38
                  Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                  Originally posted by BigOscar
                  Well they've announced it'll be free on gamespass, so I guess I will still be getting it, but honestly I wouldn't give these guys a penny of my money these past few years. The zero dollars would adequately cover the amount of effort they've put into franchise, which has gone from staying exactly the same every year, to getting actively worse.



                  It's hugely disappointing and sadly I doubt it will change. The money is in mobile phone style games, not in depth single player games that don't "suggest" you spend a bit more money all the time.



                  Franchise is living on borrowed time, as soon as an issue arises that will take a solid amount of development time to fix, that aspect will be removed as it's easier. Unless they discover a way to monetise it, they simply won't put the resources into it to keep it viable


                  I agree and have accepted this. The problem is they won’t even try to monetize it. They seem to have made the internal decision it would not work without any real data.


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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52789

                    #39
                    Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                    Originally posted by Holy Toledo
                    The problem with this argument is they are NOT making updates to franchise AND removed y2y saves.

                    And they absolutely can bring it back if they wanted too. The problem is it would take valuable time away from them releasing a Geronimo Berroa diamond boss card in the 7th inning.


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                    If this is truly your belief then you are completely ignorant to the problem.
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                    • BigOscar
                      MVP
                      • May 2016
                      • 2971

                      #40
                      Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                      Originally posted by Holy Toledo
                      I agree and have accepted this. The problem is they won’t even try to monetize it. They seem to have made the internal decision it would not work without any real data.


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                      They seem pretty happy with the "ignore game mode, see less people are playing it, say that it's not worth improving as people don't play it" style of research.

                      Then again, RttS was apparently their most popular game mode and they still saw fit to set it on fire last year in an attempt to make it more about DD and microtransactions, so I guess they don't really even care about how much people play modes either.

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                      • dalger21
                        #realtalk
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1932

                        #41
                        Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                        Originally posted by BigOscar

                        Then again, RttS was apparently their most popular game mode and they still saw fit to set it on fire last year in an attempt to make it more about DD and microtransactions, so I guess they don't really even care about how much people play modes either.
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                        • CBoller1331
                          It Appears I Blue Myself
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 3082

                          #42
                          Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                          Originally posted by ninertravel
                          the BP logic was a lot better last year (except for long reliver guys in that slot they were left in to long)

                          They still need to fix a few things so that setup guys are used in games and NOT just with 1 or 2 run leads in the 8th innings. I feel a lot of my come backs are because of boneheaded CPU BP moves
                          Yeah the logic was bad, but it was predictable, which made it easy to Manage the CPU bullpens in between games based on the bad scores. Definitely a hassle but at least each of the roles meant something. Just have to get out of the old fashion bullpen management. Maybe labeling the positions as High Leverage 1, High Leverage 2....Medium leverage 1 & so on....instead of closer/setup/middle relief

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52789

                            #43
                            Re: Franchise Players, with Y2Y saves confirmed to not be back, what is your plan?

                            Originally posted by TheWarmWind
                            That logic holds up until the point you realize that they have not and will not make meaningful updates to franchise, no matter the circumstances.

                            I hope I'm wrong, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

                            I'll continue to stick with 20 until franchise gets an update worth consideration.

                            Sent from my Pixel 3 using Operation Sports mobile app
                            Who determines what is meaningful?

                            Because personally I thought expanding the rosters to 93 and redoing the budget/finances within franchise mode was a meaningful update last year. One that, in my understanding, would've been extremely difficult to do had they had to account for year to year saves.
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                            • ChaseB
                              #BringBackFaceuary
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9844

                              #44
                              Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                              Updated this to include a couple other missing elements and made it a front page story.
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                              • Holy Toledo
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 103

                                #45
                                MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                If this is truly your belief then you are completely ignorant to the problem.


                                Lol. If they wanted to and/or thought it would make them more money they absolutely would brung the feature back. The “problem” is DD is where their time and energy goes. Not ignorant, just facts.


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