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  • KnightTemplar
    MVP
    • Feb 2017
    • 3282

    #106
    Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

    Originally posted by countryboy
    What's moot? The offseason for franchise goers?

    If that's what you mean, then I would say that I've played 3 full seasons of playing every pitch of every game and am currently playing a 4th. So transactions that occurred in my virtual universe are far from moot.
    If you have played every pitch, four seasons worth, with only the latest game release, I would think that is quite rare and really time consuming. Probably near impossible for the average gamer.

    If you’re saying most franchise players just sim the heck out of each season, then I just don’t understand that (but….to each his own).

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    • bryanm1982
      MVP
      • Nov 2016
      • 3793

      #107
      Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

      I wish they would give us a choice to incorporate some of March to October in franchise. They would help casual gamers and people that can’t play multiple seasons. I think the March to October is intriguing but I don’t want to use the base rosters and default sliders. I don’t need the rewards that come with it if we win.
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52789

        #108
        Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

        Originally posted by KnightTemplar
        If you have played every pitch, four seasons worth, with only the latest game release, I would think that is quite rare and really time consuming. Probably near impossible for the average gamer.

        If you’re saying most franchise players just sim the heck out of each season, then I just don’t understand that (but….to each his own).
        I'm sure it is quite rare how much time I invest in the game. And I don't know how most franchise users play the mode, but I've seen different threads and posts about how people play franchise in order to get through multiple seasons on the current version.

        The point I was getting at is that you stated that offseason transactions are moot if you buy the new version each year and that simply is not true.

        Whether you spend too much time like myself playing, or if someone chooses to sim and play games to get thru multiple years, the result is the same in the fact that offseason transactions have an influence on one's experience with franchise mode on the current version and certainly are not moot.
        Last edited by countryboy; 02-03-2022, 02:19 PM.
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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52789

          #109
          Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          I wish they would give us a choice to incorporate some of March to October in franchise. They would help casual gamers and people that can’t play multiple seasons. I think the March to October is intriguing but I don’t want to use the base rosters and default sliders. I don’t need the rewards that come with it if we win.
          From the brief features list, they mention that in March to October you can use custom logos, custom uniforms and created stadiums.

          Hopefully that is just the beginning of open customization for March to October.
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          • Funkycorm
            Cleveland Baseball Guru
            • Nov 2016
            • 3159

            #110
            Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

            While I was definitely bummed about the removal. I get where they are coming from and it does stink.

            But... I am also on the rare side too. I hate current present day rosters and playing current seasons. I hate nothing more than trying to mimic reality in any game. In my Indians franchise I started back in 2018, I simmed to the year 2025, built my dream team of homegrown talent, then started playing. Now I am in the off-season going into 2028 and it has been my favorite franchise ever in any game.

            I want to say I am not buying 22 as I returned to 20 last May but with this news, it all depends if the devs can wow me. If they can, I may give 22 a whirl. But I don't know. At least we know that it is out of the game and don't have to spend 12 months speculating if it will return next year.
            Last edited by Funkycorm; 02-03-2022, 02:23 PM.
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            • Madden08PCgmr
              MVP
              • Feb 2017
              • 2441

              #111
              Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

              Having looked extensively behind the curtain with Madden over the last decade, I really struggle with any discussion of business decisions/cost analysis relating to roster ports being axed.

              Franchise files, sure. I understand the obstacles there. But I can literally copy and paste rosters across numerous releases of Madden. I doubt, highly, that MLBtS rosters are structured differently.

              If new attributes were added, or more roster spots, more teams.. ect.. I could see how things wouldn't port forward or lose functionality altogether. We even saw with the roster ports, skin colors didn't translate, equipment, walk-up music.. Fine, no problem! I'll gladly tweak 2800 players, or the 700-800 that I care enough about. Better than recreating 2800 players again!

              .. I continue to wave my blank check and open wallet at SDS for a robust roster editor. That is the real solution to this problem.
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              • Bonny
                Rookie
                • Mar 2006
                • 258

                #112
                Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
                I continue to wave my blank check and open wallet at SDS for a robust roster editor. That is the real solution to this problem.

                same
                Give me an MVPedit type program and I'll go crazy. They won't though.


                It's maddening to see that our project with rosters/unis/logos just sitting in the cloud at 10mb and can't be shared or even moved to a thumbdrive. Locked to the PSN account. That's a Sony thing I guess though. I'm rambling.

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                • dalger21
                  #realtalk
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 1932

                  #113
                  Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                  Would love to see a percentage of players that actually used Y2Y saves. I am in the extreme minority of people that only play one game mode each year (RttS) and never venture into anything else that The Show offers so Y2Y saves was extremely beneficial to someone like me. Players of my ilk are being phased out and I'm ok with that. I am good with '20 for the foreseeable future. Really don't want to go through the trough of restarting each year again.
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                  • CoiaNY
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 78

                    #114
                    Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                    Originally posted by dalger21
                    Would love to see a percentage of players that actually used Y2Y saves. I am in the extreme minority of people that only play one game mode each year (RttS) and never venture into anything else that The Show offers so Y2Y saves was extremely beneficial to someone like me. Players of my ilk are being phased out and I'm ok with that. I am good with '20 for the foreseeable future. Really don't want to go through the trough of restarting each year again.
                    I share your frustration. Just because "x" number or a certain % of players don't play or use a specific feature though shouldn't result in it being removed or gradually taken out from the game, even if its just 1 cycle.

                    Yes, players like you and me are being phased out but I think it's total BS that its something that we should get used to. SDS is supposed to make a game that all fans of baseball can love. I am SO sick and tired of Diamond Dynasty this and Diamond Dynasty that - yeah I understand its their cash cow, but my god... its as if the devs are continually trying to literally FORCE out the players that that put them on the map in the first place.

                    Its like they're intentionally ignoring certain aspects and modes of the game so they get to a point where they don't have to touch it at all anymore. Is that an extreme statement to make? Sure, if these modes weren't touched for a year. But we're going on like god knows how many years now that some of these modes etc have just been left out to dry. Its crazy and I wish the studio would prove me wrong but its become a wildly obvious trend to me at this stage in the game (no pun intended) and I say all of this as someone who loyally bought the game from 2006-2017.

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                    • baseballguy99
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 935

                      #115
                      Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                      Originally posted by countryboy
                      There's hope that Y2Y saves will return as they understand there is a section of the fanbase that enjoyed and used the feature. But to get franchise to where they, and the fanbase, want it to be, Y2Y saves had to be placed on the back burner.


                      It was a private message discussion I had.

                      thanks for sharing the info CB. Perhaps you can ask about SOTS?

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                      • Lil Worm
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1315

                        #116
                        Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                        Originally posted by baseballguy99
                        thanks for sharing the info CB. Perhaps you can ask about SOTS?
                        Y2Y saves is a huge one for me. I'm happy with '21 so I will be setting this one out.

                        I put to much time and enjoyment into my franchise to have to kill it and star over each release.

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                        • Culture Rot
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3018

                          #117
                          Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                          If difficulty of programming the saves to carry over is truly what the issue is, perhaps they should hire more skilled and or hard working employees. As someone who has developed and converted much more complicated things with far less resources, the work they would have to do is rudimentary by comparison. I bet there are people who would do the work required FOR FREE if it were an option. If the game came out for PC you would see mods that would put anything they have created to shame within months. You would see what is actually possible.

                          It is so ridiculous that I can't accept that at face value as the reason we won't get the feature back. The "telemetry" excuse is more plausible even though there is many flaws in that argument also.
                          Last edited by Culture Rot; 02-03-2022, 05:04 PM.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52789

                            #118
                            Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                            And people wonder why the devs don’t visit or interact.

                            Reason provided and people won’t accept it and/or insult them.

                            And everyone is a ****ing expert.

                            **** it I’m done


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                            • Vercingetirex
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 250

                              #119
                              Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                              I will be sticking with 20 again. Hopefully in a few years they will make this franchise appear more next gen.

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                              • puppies_on_acid
                                French Fried Taters, mhmm
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 343

                                #120
                                Re: MLB The Show 22: Year to Year Saves Remain Out, Stadiums Will Not Transfer

                                Originally posted by Culture Rot
                                If the game came out for PC you would see mods that would put anything they have created to shame within months. You would see what is actually possible.
                                I've been saying this for a long time. The PC modding community is vast and extremely talented. This is also the reason they likely will never release it on PC. It would be pretty embarrassing to get shown up by "amateurs" modding the game for free on their own time.
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