What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

[Big Shmooz]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

Agreed, how to you basically call the greatest sports game ever made (opinion) crap!?! I see these bugs and glitches threads and have never seen any of them (this is true). The game froze on me once, I admit, but I have played over 250 games of baseball bliss. I can not for the life of me "get" these constant bugs and glitches comments....maybe I am blind, but I am not seeing them.

Here is a way for you to see a bug if you really want to. Keep on "pitching out" repeatedly with an opposing runner on base. Watch what happens.

Want another bug? (this was fixed by the patch) Play the game without the patch & play at Tropicana Field. Go to the bullpen & after leaving the bullpen press the "select" button on your gamepad. Watch what happens.

There are loads more bugs but these two are guaranteed to occur if you do the above things I suggested.

[Woodweaver]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

Here is a way for you to see a bug if you really want to. Keep on "pitching out" repeatedly with an opposing runner on base. Watch what happens.

Want another bug? (this was fixed by the patch) Play the game without the patch & play at Tropicana Field. Go to the bullpen & after leaving the bullpen press the "select" button on your gamepad. Watch what happens.

There are loads more bugs but these two are guaranteed to occur if you do the above things I suggested.

I believe his point was that in the course of normal game play he didn't experience many of the bugs mentioned. If you intentionally try to do things out of the norm or play un-patched versions of any software, you will eventually find bugs. While there are certainly bugs in this years version, they are not game killing or beyond the expected for a game of this scope and complexity. Not to mention, the developers are very responsive with support, patches, etc.

[Yankees_CT]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

Here is a way for you to see a bug if you really want to. Keep on "pitching out" repeatedly with an opposing runner on base. Watch what happens.

Want another bug? (this was fixed by the patch) Play the game without the patch & play at Tropicana Field. Go to the bullpen & after leaving the bullpen press the "select" button on your gamepad. Watch what happens.

There are loads more bugs but these two are guaranteed to occur if you do the above things I suggested.

Why would I keep pitching out to try to recreate a bug or for any other reason? I Always use the directional up to get to my bullpen so I guess I missed that one too. My point was in my everyday playing of the game I literally have not seen any of these bugs. It's fine if they exist and everyone else sees them but for me to play as many games as I have and not see anything they really must be few and far.

[bbmike15]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

how do you guys feel about the PS3 Move implemented in The Show?
i personally think ,in theory, it would be BAD A!
cant believe i haven't seen any talk about this

[bbmike15]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

i would love to be able to transfer franchise and RTTS stats, info, players etc. to the newer versions of the games rather than starting over every year.
Mainly for RTTS though because probably like most people i play both game modes but i really play franchise more because i only have a year to play my RTTS guy and it does take up a lot of time and i just lose interest because i know im going to lose him once the new game comes out

[cardsleadtheway]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

I think the Move would be a terrible idea. They already can't get the physics right and you want to throw in some invisible bat in hopes it will work? Nah. I would rather them fine tune the little things that have made this game the best baseball out there.

[bbmike15]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

I think the Move would be a terrible idea. They already can't get the physics right and you want to throw in some invisible bat in hopes it will work? Nah. I would rather them fine tune the little things that have made this game the best baseball out there.

ya thats what im afraid of too but thats why i said it would be awesome "in theory" meaning if it was fine tuned and actually made the game more realistic and fun to play. Of course i dont think it would happen but just thinking of the potential makes it exciting. think of swinging perfectly and seeing that "no-doubt" homerun cut scene as you hit the facade on the upper deck... just would be awesome getting that feeling of crushing a ball in real life and seeing it soar away from you.. as a former player for most of my life i miss that part of it the most since i dont get to play anyomore.

[Big Shmooz]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

Why would I keep pitching out to try to recreate a bug or for any other reason? I Always use the directional up to get to my bullpen so I guess I missed that one too. My point was in my everyday playing of the game I literally have not seen any of these bugs. It's fine if they exist and everyone else sees them but for me to play as many games as I have and not see anything they really must be few and far.

I was not suggesting you continually pitch out in a game you are playing. All I was saying was that if you really felt there were no bugs & this is why you were not seeing any, you by following my directions would in fact see some.

The truth is, there are alot more bugs to see. A bug where a baserunner is hit by a batted ball & yet the ball remains in play. A graphical glitch where the window of the baserunner on first base looks all cockeyed. One where ball 4 happens yet the batter is not awarded first base. (you can keep on throwing pitches that are ball's & he will still not walk) These are just to name a few. The only reason I mentioned those two in my original post is because they are very easy to recreate. The three bugs I am mentioning now are a bit more difficult to recreate because they have to have a specific set of circumstances to happen. (though in the case of the graphical glitch I have yet to see a logical reason that causes it to happen based on something that occured in the game)

These bugs I mentioned are actual gameplay bugs. There are quite a few more that I can't think of right now but I think I made the point anyway. There are also alot of other non gameplay bugs which I am not even referring to here.

To specifically answer your question in regard to why you would pitch out continually, the truth is, you don't really have to do that to encounter this bug. In fact I would say that it happens close to 50% of the time when you pitch out. I know some people who have also encountered this bug claim the numbers are more like 20%, I would tend to say that is too low an estimate. Either way, this occurs enough times to be a real issue. In fact I lost a game because of this.

As far as why "I" would pitch out alot, it is because I play against a friend who likes to steal alot. It is quite frustrating to know I guessed right on his attempted steal of second base only to have him simply walk to second base because of the hit batter who gets awarded first base.

[Big Shmooz]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

I believe his point was that in the course of normal game play he didn't experience many of the bugs mentioned. If you intentionally try to do things out of the norm or play un-patched versions of any software, you will eventually find bugs. While there are certainly bugs in this years version, they are not game killing or beyond the expected for a game of this scope and complexity. Not to mention, the developers are very responsive with support, patches, etc.

I agree with most of what you say here. But I also don't think that one has to really go out of their way to find the (let's use the term "pretty annoying") bugs. In the course of normal gameplay I think enough bugs crop up to have a real impact on the enjoyment of the game.

That's not to say that bugs are apparent in every instance that I play this game. I think this game is alot of fun to play. In fact that is what makes the bugs that mucn more frustrating. Think of it this way. Two games you have. One is alot of fun to play & has bugs. The other game you have is not really much fun to play. However it does not have any bugs. Which game are you going to care about? Obviously the former since it is the game you enjoy. That is the one that is going to rile you up because it is the one you care about. The latter game, you just shelve (is that a proper word?) & don't think twice about.

[Woodweaver]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

@shmooz

Right on, I see where you're coming from...

At least, you're enjoying it to some degree! I hope next year the developers are able to take all the constructive feedback and deliver another outstanding game with some new features and less bugs. They always seem pretty committed to doing just that...

[MLB01]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

Some of those bugs mentioned are just minor glitches. I mean, does it really hurt your experience with the game ?

The game is solid. There's nothing competing with it in it's category ( baseball ) and the developers are still working on the game like they have very intimidating competition ( but they don't ). I commend SCEA. They are one of the few game companys left that actually give a ****.

[Yankees_CT]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

I was not suggesting you continually pitch out in a game you are playing. All I was saying was that if you really felt there were no bugs & this is why you were not seeing any, you by following my directions would in fact see some.

The truth is, there are alot more bugs to see. A bug where a baserunner is hit by a batted ball & yet the ball remains in play. A graphical glitch where the window of the baserunner on first base looks all cockeyed. One where ball 4 happens yet the batter is not awarded first base. (you can keep on throwing pitches that are ball's & he will still not walk) These are just to name a few. The only reason I mentioned those two in my original post is because they are very easy to recreate. The three bugs I am mentioning now are a bit more difficult to recreate because they have to have a specific set of circumstances to happen. (though in the case of the graphical glitch I have yet to see a logical reason that causes it to happen based on something that occured in the game)

These bugs I mentioned are actual gameplay bugs. There are quite a few more that I can't think of right now but I think I made the point anyway. There are also alot of other non gameplay bugs which I am not even referring to here.

To specifically answer your question in regard to why you would pitch out continually, the truth is, you don't really have to do that to encounter this bug. In fact I would say that it happens close to 50% of the time when you pitch out. I know some people who have also encountered this bug claim the numbers are more like 20%, I would tend to say that is too low an estimate. Either way, this occurs enough times to be a real issue. In fact I lost a game because of this.

As far as why "I" would pitch out alot, it is because I play against a friend who likes to steal alot. It is quite frustrating to know I guessed right on his attempted steal of second base only to have him simply walk to second base because of the hit batter who gets awarded first base.

Wow, I really must be blind then. I had no idea there were that many bugs in the game. Like I said before I am creeping up to almost 300 games played and I haven't seen any of the ones you just mentioned. Maybe I just get caught up in the game and miss them. (Except for a guy not walking after 4 balls, I think I would notice that one).
I hope they do fix the bugs and glitches that you have talked about so everyone can thoroughly enjoy the game glitch free. Good luck, I'm off to play another game...it's pennant race time!

[statum71]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

a baseball tonite show with highlights of other games.

10. Keep improving presentation (maybe like a weekly rap up show from MLB TV)

-Weekly recap show. Like what some other people have posted about, something like what they used to do in NFL 2K5.

daily/weekly highlight show. I think it was one of the coolest features on nfl 2k4/2k5.

I don't know what to expect. Don't really have any complaints about the game.

Would like to see some type of show in season mode though.

[VaZey]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

I don't know about you guys, but I hate the whole "generic" coach thing. Y'know what I mean, the guy with a handlebar mustache, skinny neck and cornrows comin' out of the dugout.

I go crazy when I see the Mets offer 'John Doe' a contract while Charlie Manuel is right under him.

Do you guys think there should be a computer priority thing? Where real coaches must be signed before a computer generated one? There's nothing cleaner then a computer coaching staff that are all legit guys, I love it.

I think coaching and managing should play a bigger role in MLB '11, even if it's just little things like during the pre game cut scene, maybe throw in the hitting coach showing a hitter a swing or something like that, just to give us some cosmetic relevance.

It's one of the reasons I hate going past the 3 year mark in a franchise, it seems like the computer purposely avoids using real guys as coaches.

[ADMINISTRATIVO]

Re: What do you suspect will B changed in '11?

My hopes not what I suspect
Front my point of view, The Show lacks some things in creation/edition mode, such as:
-crate a league
-Play off mode
-create a team with logos, jerseys... and share them in a vault (NBA 2k has it)
-Edit managers and coaches
-An ultrasimulation game like The Show should erase generic 1 for players. They should have always a stance/delivery assigned, not neccesary theirs, can share them
and so on

and others issues like
-weather
-stand out even more skills/speciallities and defects in players ,in defense, due to the pitch count, last innings and play offs pressure, etcc....
-Also crashes/colisions between players, specially outfielders, fan interferences (all this could be controlled by sliders).
-To improve base stealing: In The Show its imposible to steal with Bengie Molina and that happened game 5 Division Series vs Rays, and also it is imposible for me to steal third base even with Wakefield in the mound....catchers throws are too perfects despite the sliders
-New stats while playing a game like avg. of a batter against a determinated pitcher, 10 last games average, etc


There are always things to improve altough The Show is an almost perfect game
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