2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

That is what I love about the CPU. They put this guys on the trading block with years remaining on their contract. I am going to play 2 or 3 seasons, so I am trying to have a fewer of the 1 year contracts going into the off season.

You don't feel guilty in the slightest?

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

You don't feel guilty in the slightest?

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

i doubt it or he wouldn't have posted the trade in here

[AC]

i doubt it or he wouldn't have posted the trade in here

Good point.

Scott's rosters are so close I can taste it ...

Does anyone really care where I sent this from?

[Geronimo22]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Question for you gentlemen,

I'm just about done the month of May in my franchise and have seen about 8 trade proposals (all have been unfair) and I have manually rejected them.

My question is, do you guys manually try to rework the deal to make it fair? For example I've seen Miami try to unload Greg Dobbs twice. Have any of you decided to just play GM and work a fair deal FOR Miami?

Just seems at this pace of poor trade logic, there won't be any trades that go through this season.

[Totte]

Question for you gentlemen,

I'm just about done the month of May in my franchise and have seen about 8 trade proposals (all have been unfair) and I have manually rejected them.

My question is, do you guys manually try to rework the deal to make it fair? For example I've seen Miami try to unload Greg Dobbs twice. Have any of you decided to just play GM and work a fair deal FOR Miami?

Just seems at this pace of poor trade logic, there won't be any trades that go through this season.

If there's an obvious need with the receiving team for a player type like that, yes

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Question for you gentlemen,

I'm just about done the month of May in my franchise and have seen about 8 trade proposals (all have been unfair) and I have manually rejected them.

My question is, do you guys manually try to rework the deal to make it fair? For example I've seen Miami try to unload Greg Dobbs twice. Have any of you decided to just play GM and work a fair deal FOR Miami?

Just seems at this pace of poor trade logic, there won't be any trades that go through this season.

nope...if i deem a trade unfair/unrealistic, i decline the trade and move on

[nowitsourtime]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Looking to pick up a true #1 starter in the 2nd year of my Twins franchise. What would be the cost of some of these guys? (not going for super realism but I strive to make fair trades that benefit both teams)
Lester
Wainwright
Garza
Holland
Peavy

Thanks in advance!

[Philly07]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Close to starting up a Jays franchise. I'd like to trade for a frontline starter like, say, Hamels or even Felix. What would it take to get either of them?

In case I can't get one going for either of those guys, what would it take to get Ian Kennedy?

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Close to starting up a Jays franchise. I'd like to trade for a frontline starter like, say, Hamels or even Felix. What would it take to get either of them?

In case I can't get one going for either of those guys, what would it take to get Ian Kennedy?

Felix has been discussed Ad Nauseum in here. Look at what the Mariners declined from the Yanks;

Betances
Banuelos
Montero
Gardiner
Williams

That's three A's and two B's.

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Looking to pick up a true #1 starter in the 2nd year of my Twins franchise. What would be the cost of some of these guys? (not going for super realism but I strive to make fair trades that benefit both teams)
Lester
Wainwright
Garza
Holland
Peavy

Thanks in advance!

An A and 2 High B's, 3 High B's, 2 high B's, 2 Mid B's, high B and a mid B

[PowerofRed25]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

You realize Headley plays half his games in PETCO, right? Anywhere else, he hits 20 HRs and at LEAST .290. And I'm SURE the Jays could put together a very convincing package.

His home/road average split is pretty huge (.65 points better on the road) but I'm not sure I buy a .290 average from him. Maybe, but I wouldn't bet my top prospect on it. He's 28 and 2500 PA's in, the career arc of most hitters as peaked already so you'd riding a pretty big prayer that a change of ballparks adds 20 points and a dozen homers to his final line.

As for homers, Headley has 1187 home plate appearances and 1297 road plate appearances. 17 home homers, 27 road. That's still not really encouraging. Maybe he is a late bloomer in the power department. Again, a lot of maybes.

I'm not saying Headley isn't a good player, but the guy is 28 and it is VERY rare you see guys improving at this age. So how much of your organizations future are you willing to bet that a change in home ball parks turns a .270, 10 HR guy into a .290, 20 HR middle of the lineup guy for a top ball club? Pretty big risk to take when you want Headley to be the corner piece of a deal.

As for the Jays getting Justin Upton. Who exactly do the Toronto Blue Jays have that the Diamondbacks could want or need?

- D'Arnaud? Nope. Montero is getting $60M over the next 5 years and D'Arnaud is too good of a defensive catcher to try and move to a corner IF spot.

- Gose? Nope. He's a less polished Justin Upton with a fraction of Justin Upton's ceiling. Would they take him? Sure. But not without some combination of 3 or 4 of these guys.

- Marisnick? Not bad, OF (position player in general) is a weak spot in the minor leagues for Arizona but like Gose, you're going to have to bring a lot more to the table than a guy that won't be major league ready for two years for a guy with 40-40 raw skills.

Any of your pitching prospects? No thanks. Not a one would crack the top 4 in the Arizona system. A system that already has Ian Kennedy and Dan Hudson at the top of the rotation under contract through 2016 and 2017 respectively. Add in Bauer, Skaggs, Bradley and I don't see where any of these pitching prospects fits in. The Blue Jays organization felt highly enough of Tyler Skaggs that he is who they wanted if they shipped D'Arnaud to Arizona before the Montero contract.

I'd like to see what package the Jays could possibly put together to entice Arizona to even pick up the phone.

[AC]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

His home/road average split is pretty huge (.65 points better on the road) but I'm not sure I buy a .290 average from him. Maybe, but I wouldn't bet my top prospect on it. He's 28 and 2500 PA's in, the career arc of most hitters as peaked already so you'd riding a pretty big prayer that a change of ballparks adds 20 points and a dozen homers to his final line.

As for homers, Headley has 1187 home plate appearances and 1297 road plate appearances. 17 home homers, 27 road. That's still not really encouraging. Maybe he is a late bloomer in the power department. Again, a lot of maybes.

I'm not saying Headley isn't a good player, but the guy is 28 and it is VERY rare you see guys improving at this age. So how much of your organizations future are you willing to bet that a change in home ball parks turns a .270, 10 HR guy into a .290, 20 HR middle of the lineup guy for a top ball club? Pretty big risk to take when you want Headley to be the corner piece of a deal.

As for the Jays getting Justin Upton. Who exactly do the Toronto Blue Jays have that the Diamondbacks could want or need?

- D'Arnaud? Nope. Montero is getting $60M over the next 5 years and D'Arnaud is too good of a defensive catcher to try and move to a corner IF spot.

- Gose? Nope. He's a less polished Justin Upton with a fraction of Justin Upton's ceiling. Would they take him? Sure. But not without some combination of 3 or 4 of these guys.

- Marisnick? Not bad, OF (position player in general) is a weak spot in the minor leagues for Arizona but like Gose, you're going to have to bring a lot more to the table than a guy that won't be major league ready for two years for a guy with 40-40 raw skills.

Any of your pitching prospects? No thanks. Not a one would crack the top 4 in the Arizona system. A system that already has Ian Kennedy and Dan Hudson at the top of the rotation under contract through 2016 and 2017 respectively. Add in Bauer, Skaggs, Bradley and I don't see where any of these pitching prospects fits in. The Blue Jays organization felt highly enough of Tyler Skaggs that he is who they wanted if they shipped D'Arnaud to Arizona before the Montero contract.

I'd like to see what package the Jays could possibly put together to entice Arizona to even pick up the phone.

Oh you are VASTLY overrating your pitching staff here, and I can tell exactly how this is gonna go, so I'm not doing this.

[IK720]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

It was pretty much agreed upon earlier that Wandy was worth about 2 B's if pitching well when sent to a contender correct? I'm restarting my Astros franchise right now and simming season one.. because season one is a lost cause haha...

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

It was pretty much agreed upon earlier that Wandy was worth about 2 B's if pitching well when sent to a contender correct? I'm restarting my Astros franchise right now and simming season one.. because season one is a lost cause haha...

yep 2 B's would be fair if he was pitching well

[fran33s]

Sorry to bother, but when do Scott's rosters come out? That's when I'll do my real franchise