2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Hi guys.

Currently half way through May in my chise with the Atlanta Braves and Steve Cishek (Marlins) just went on the Trade Block. Is this too early to make a trade for him, and what would I have to give up to make it fair?

I'm currently 1 game behind the Nationals and the Marlins are 2 games behind.

/Cheers

yes i do believe its a bit early to make a move and i dont think the Marlins would trade Cishek anyway

[frazza]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

ok. thanks for the speedy reply

[bwoodring9]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Mid-June. My Phils are already 20 games under .500 and the Yankees are battling with the Rays for 1st in the AL East. Yanks have the worst ERA in the AL. How do you guys feel about me giving NYY Cliff Lee, and getting Banuelos and Mason Williams in return?

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Mid-June. My Phils are already 20 games under .500 and the Yankees are battling with the Rays for 1st in the AL East. Yanks have the worst ERA in the AL. How do you guys feel about me giving NYY Cliff Lee, and getting Banuelos and Mason Williams in return?

u could prolly solicit another prospect in return as well depending on Lee's stats

[bwoodring9]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

u could prolly solicit another prospect in return as well depending on Lee's stats

Lee is 4-9 (bad run support) with a 3.21 ERA

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Lee is 4-9 (bad run support) with a 3.21 ERA

considering he's signed for another 87 years, u can have the Yanks throw in another decent prospect

[Geronimo22]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

7 days before the trade deadline and the Dodgers out of it:

They have 3 older pitchers (Lilly, Harang,and Capuano) all with 2 yrs left and pretty big contracts (6.4M/4.1M/3.0M) per/yr respectively.

I've got 6 teams looking for starting pitching help (Det/Mia/Cin/Col/NYY/Tor)

You think teams would deal for these guys? What you they get back in return?

Lilly (A) (4-10/5.04 ERA/88K/35BB/96H/91.1 IP/1.44WHIP/.265AVG)

Harang (B) (6-8/4.66 ERA/92K/45BB/133H/116.0 IP/1.53WHIP/.284AVG)

Capuano (B) (6-6/4.44 ERA/106K/37BB/126H/123/2 IP/1.32WHIP/.260AVG)

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

7 days before the trade deadline and the Dodgers out of it:

They have 3 older pitchers (Lilly, Harang,and Capuano) all with 2 yrs left and pretty big contracts (6.4M/4.1M/3.0M) per/yr respectively.

I've got 6 teams looking for starting pitching help (Det/Mia/Cin/Col/NYY/Tor)

You think teams would deal for these guys? What you they get back in return?

Lilly (A) (4-10/5.04 ERA/88K/35BB/96H/91.1 IP/1.44WHIP/.265AVG)

Harang (B) (6-8/4.66 ERA/92K/45BB/133H/116.0 IP/1.53WHIP/.284AVG)

Capuano (B) (6-6/4.44 ERA/106K/37BB/126H/123/2 IP/1.32WHIP/.260AVG)

highly doubtful...a team MIGHT take a chance on Capuano and surrender a nonsignificant C prospect but that would be it

[Geronimo22]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

highly doubtful...a team MIGHT take a chance on Capuano and surrender a nonsignificant C prospect but that would be it

If that's the case, I think the Dodgers would just keep those guys (including Capuano). Thanks NFG4M

[Geronimo22]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Since I'm talking Dodgers :

They want to shop RP's

33 y/o Matt Guerrier (B) (2 Yr/2M) (3-5/2.88 ERA/50 IP/24K/6BB/45H/1.02WHIP/.247AVG)

31 y/o Todd Coffey (B) (1 Yr/1.2M) (2-2/2.21 ERA/53 IP/38K/8BB/37H/0.85 WHIP/.194AVG)

Got 5 teams looking for RP's... What you think they are worth?

[37]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Since I'm talking Dodgers :

They want to shop RP's

33 y/o Matt Guerrier (B) (2 Yr/2M) (3-5/2.88 ERA/50 IP/24K/6BB/45H/1.02WHIP/.247AVG)

31 y/o Todd Coffey (B) (1 Yr/1.2M) (2-2/2.21 ERA/53 IP/38K/8BB/37H/0.85 WHIP/.194AVG)

Got 5 teams looking for RP's... What you think they are worth?

probably a couple of middle-tier C's for each

[MindBeats]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Is it realistic for me to trade for Mauer or Jesus Montero? Other Catcher options?
Here are the standings (Twins missing in Wild Card, idk why):

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="425"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0F4871" colspan="6"><span style="color:#FFF">MLB Standings - Updated: Jul 6, 2012</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL EAST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Red Sox</td><td align="right">47</td><td align="right">35</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">406</td><td align="right">340</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rays</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">1.5</td><td align="right">320</td><td align="right">298</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Yankees</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">3.0</td><td align="right">379</td><td align="right">346</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Orioles</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">5.0</td><td align="right">348</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Blue Jays</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">8.0</td><td align="right">326</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL CENTRAL</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tigers</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">453</td><td align="right">351</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>White Sox</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">350</td><td align="right">301</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Indians</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right" class="active">9.0</td><td align="right">370</td><td align="right">393</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Royals</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right" class="active">19.0</td><td align="right">290</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Twins</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">55</td><td align="right" class="active">23.0</td><td align="right">352</td><td align="right">478</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL WEST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Angels</td><td align="right">63</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">520</td><td align="right">280</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rangers</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">19.5</td><td align="right">395</td><td align="right">409</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Athletics</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">30.5</td><td align="right">337</td><td align="right">380</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Mariners</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">56</td><td align="right" class="active">35.5</td><td align="right">306</td><td align="right">431</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL WILD CARD RACE</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tigers</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">453</td><td align="right">351</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>White Sox</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">350</td><td align="right">301</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rays</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">4.5</td><td align="right">320</td><td align="right">298</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Yankees</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">6.0</td><td align="right">379</td><td align="right">346</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rangers</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">7.0</td><td align="right">395</td><td align="right">409</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Orioles</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">8.0</td><td align="right">348</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Indians</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right" class="active">9.0</td><td align="right">370</td><td align="right">393</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Blue Jays</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">11.0</td><td align="right">326</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Athletics</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">18.0</td><td align="right">337</td><td align="right">380</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Royals</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right" class="active">19.0</td><td align="right">290</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mariners</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">56</td><td align="right" class="active">23.0</td><td align="right">306</td><td align="right">431</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL EAST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Nationals</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">36</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">349</td><td align="right">268</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Phillies</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">1.0</td><td align="right">308</td><td align="right">291</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Braves</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">1.5</td><td align="right">353</td><td align="right">345</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Marlins</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">6.5</td><td align="right">336</td><td align="right">342</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mets</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">13.5</td><td align="right">312</td><td align="right">337</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL CENTRAL</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brewers</td><td align="right">58</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">417</td><td align="right">277</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Cardinals</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">13.5</td><td align="right">330</td><td align="right">306</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Reds</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">15.5</td><td align="right">347</td><td align="right">325</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Pirates</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right" class="active">20.0</td><td align="right">346</td><td align="right">377</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cubs</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right" class="active">27.5</td><td align="right">269</td><td align="right">359</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Astros</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">60</td><td align="right" class="active">35.5</td><td align="right">270</td><td align="right">413</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL WEST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dodgers</td><td align="right">47</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">328</td><td align="right">297</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Diamondbacks</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">1.0</td><td align="right">341</td><td align="right">326</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Giants</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">2.5</td><td align="right">338</td><td align="right">317</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Padres</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right" class="active">9.0</td><td align="right">329</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rockies</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right" class="active">12.0</td><td align="right">340</td><td align="right">398</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL WILD CARD RACE</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Phillies</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">308</td><td align="right">291</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Diamondbacks</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">341</td><td align="right">326</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cardinals</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">0.5</td><td align="right">330</td><td align="right">306</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Braves</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">0.5</td><td align="right">353</td><td align="right">345</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Giants</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">1.5</td><td align="right">338</td><td align="right">317</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Reds</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">2.5</td><td align="right">347</td><td align="right">325</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marlins</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">5.5</td><td align="right">336</td><td align="right">342</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Pirates</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right" class="active">7.0</td><td align="right">346</td><td align="right">377</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Padres</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right" class="active">8.0</td><td align="right">329</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rockies</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right" class="active">11.0</td><td align="right">340</td><td align="right">398</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mets</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">12.5</td><td align="right">312</td><td align="right">337</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Cubs</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right" class="active">14.5</td><td align="right">269</td><td align="right">359</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Astros</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">60</td><td align="right" class="active">22.5</td><td align="right">270</td><td align="right">413</td></tr></table></body></html>

[shawno306]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Is it realistic for me to trade for Mauer or Jesus Montero? Other Catcher options?
Here are the standings (Twins missing in Wild Card, idk why):

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="425"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0F4871" colspan="6"><span style="color:#FFF">MLB Standings - Updated: Jul 6, 2012</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL EAST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Red Sox</td><td align="right">47</td><td align="right">35</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">406</td><td align="right">340</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rays</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">1.5</td><td align="right">320</td><td align="right">298</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Yankees</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">3.0</td><td align="right">379</td><td align="right">346</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Orioles</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">5.0</td><td align="right">348</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Blue Jays</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">8.0</td><td align="right">326</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL CENTRAL</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tigers</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">453</td><td align="right">351</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>White Sox</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">350</td><td align="right">301</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Indians</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right" class="active">9.0</td><td align="right">370</td><td align="right">393</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Royals</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right" class="active">19.0</td><td align="right">290</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Twins</td><td align="right">27</td><td align="right">55</td><td align="right" class="active">23.0</td><td align="right">352</td><td align="right">478</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL WEST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Angels</td><td align="right">63</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">520</td><td align="right">280</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rangers</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">19.5</td><td align="right">395</td><td align="right">409</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Athletics</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">30.5</td><td align="right">337</td><td align="right">380</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Mariners</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">56</td><td align="right" class="active">35.5</td><td align="right">306</td><td align="right">431</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">AL WILD CARD RACE</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tigers</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">453</td><td align="right">351</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>White Sox</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">350</td><td align="right">301</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rays</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">4.5</td><td align="right">320</td><td align="right">298</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Yankees</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">6.0</td><td align="right">379</td><td align="right">346</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rangers</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">7.0</td><td align="right">395</td><td align="right">409</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Orioles</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">8.0</td><td align="right">348</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Indians</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right" class="active">9.0</td><td align="right">370</td><td align="right">393</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Blue Jays</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">11.0</td><td align="right">326</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Athletics</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">18.0</td><td align="right">337</td><td align="right">380</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Royals</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">51</td><td align="right" class="active">19.0</td><td align="right">290</td><td align="right">384</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mariners</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">56</td><td align="right" class="active">23.0</td><td align="right">306</td><td align="right">431</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL EAST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Nationals</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">36</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">349</td><td align="right">268</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Phillies</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">1.0</td><td align="right">308</td><td align="right">291</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Braves</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">1.5</td><td align="right">353</td><td align="right">345</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Marlins</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">6.5</td><td align="right">336</td><td align="right">342</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mets</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">13.5</td><td align="right">312</td><td align="right">337</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL CENTRAL</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brewers</td><td align="right">58</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">417</td><td align="right">277</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Cardinals</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">13.5</td><td align="right">330</td><td align="right">306</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Reds</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">15.5</td><td align="right">347</td><td align="right">325</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Pirates</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right" class="active">20.0</td><td align="right">346</td><td align="right">377</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cubs</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right" class="active">27.5</td><td align="right">269</td><td align="right">359</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Astros</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">60</td><td align="right" class="active">35.5</td><td align="right">270</td><td align="right">413</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL WEST</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dodgers</td><td align="right">47</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">328</td><td align="right">297</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Diamondbacks</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">1.0</td><td align="right">341</td><td align="right">326</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Giants</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">2.5</td><td align="right">338</td><td align="right">317</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Padres</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right" class="active">9.0</td><td align="right">329</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rockies</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right" class="active">12.0</td><td align="right">340</td><td align="right">398</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="45%">NL WILD CARD RACE</td><td align="right" width="11%">W</td><td align="right" width="11%">L</td><td align="right" width="11%">GB</td><td align="right" width="11%">RS</td><td align="right" width="11%">RA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Phillies</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">308</td><td align="right">291</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Diamondbacks</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right" class="active">-</td><td align="right">341</td><td align="right">326</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Cardinals</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">0.5</td><td align="right">330</td><td align="right">306</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Braves</td><td align="right">45</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right" class="active">0.5</td><td align="right">353</td><td align="right">345</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Giants</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right">39</td><td align="right" class="active">1.5</td><td align="right">338</td><td align="right">317</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Reds</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right" class="active">2.5</td><td align="right">347</td><td align="right">325</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marlins</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right" class="active">5.5</td><td align="right">336</td><td align="right">342</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Pirates</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">44</td><td align="right" class="active">7.0</td><td align="right">346</td><td align="right">377</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Padres</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">46</td><td align="right" class="active">8.0</td><td align="right">329</td><td align="right">356</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rockies</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right" class="active">11.0</td><td align="right">340</td><td align="right">398</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mets</td><td align="right">33</td><td align="right">50</td><td align="right" class="active">12.5</td><td align="right">312</td><td align="right">337</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Cubs</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right">52</td><td align="right" class="active">14.5</td><td align="right">269</td><td align="right">359</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Astros</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">60</td><td align="right" class="active">22.5</td><td align="right">270</td><td align="right">413</td></tr></table></body></html>

Muaer might be hard to get realistically. The Blue Jays are out of it though, and I know he's no Montero or Mauer, but JP Arencibia is a good young A potential catcher. It would take possibly 2 or 3 Bs plus take a bad contract to get him. Though if you really want Mauer, it wil take 2-3 high As. Montero is usually impossible to get.

[yanksrule3]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I dont think so. Montero was just acquired by the M's before the season. So thats unrealistic.
And Mauer is signed long-term and is the face of the franchise so probably not either

[shawno306]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

This isn't so much of a trade, but setting up a trade. In one of my franchises, Clay Bucholz is 0-3 with a 7+ era. After the first month. I know the game doesn't take stats into trades, but in the real world, would it be safer to trade Bucholz after the first month, or wait it out till the deadline and hope his value improves? I ask this because I'm trying to play the game as realistic as possible.