2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

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  • nowitsourtime
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    • Oct 2011
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    #3826
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Omar Vizquel?

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    • msuboy11
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      • Jun 2011
      • 1078

      #3827
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by nowitsourtime
      Omar Vizquel?
      Ya the only problem with him is the bat. I would like to get a bat. He could be a possibility and then I could get another one that could have a good bat.

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      • msuboy11
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        • Jun 2011
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        #3828
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        What do you guys think it'd take for Mike Ailes? I know NFGFM has told me what it'd take for Brandon Inge, but I forgot, so wha about for him also?

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        • franch1se
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          • Apr 2004
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          #3829
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          that is a horrible trade for the Padres

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          • bugle987
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            • Apr 2011
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            #3830
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by franch1se
            that is a horrible trade for the Padres
            Would you like to explain why

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            • msuboy11
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              • Jun 2011
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              #3831
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by franch1se
              that is a horrible trade for the Padres
              I don't want to spoil it(as I know you are following) but I have so many top prospects, that it didn't really affect me! We got a top SS prospect(which we had no one at) and we gave up a 3rd and 2nd base prospects that we have better options at. On the OSFM rosters I'm using, Rincon isn't far behind Gyroko(actually hitting stats are pretty much identical, and he's 2 years younger), and we got a 18 yo 3B prospect in the draft who has A pot., and he has high floor right now. We got another A pot. prospect in draft, a 22 yo CF who has great contact, bunt and speed numbers. Tate moved up to an A pot, so we have our new draft pick, Maybin, and Matt Joyce in outfield. I put 2B/SS as Tate's secondary positions, so he can play OF, or infield. We got Mike Minor(who moved up to an A pot) and Wade Davis in rotation. We have Arodys Vizcaino at closer, and we have Boxerger(who moved up to an A pot.) as our setup man.

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              • msuboy11
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                • Jun 2011
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                #3832
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                As you can see, we didn't need those prospects, and we got an ace for our staff. To top it off, he's extended for the next 4-5 years at only 700K a year! It would've taken a ton more to resign all of those prospects, and they werent even our best prospects. I know it's hard to let them go, but it makes the team better now and in the future, but also gives those players an opportunity to start and play, something they wouldn't have had here.

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                • franch1se
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                  • Apr 2004
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                  #3833
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by bugle987
                  Would you like to explain why
                  the trade is fair, I'm looking at it more as an organizational deal.

                  we have a ton of pitching depth and talent in the minors (Kelly, Wieland, Ross, Sampson, Erlin, Portillo to name a few) where pitching would not be a top priority (BumG). Panik is a good SS prospect but in an organization where we need hitters we are dealing Gyorko (great bat and moved to 2B, shown lots of power and ability to hit), Liriano (#1 prospect, potential 5 tool stud), maybe Spangenberg (I don't know the whole details of the trade, another great bat, solid contact, built for Petco). We don't go out and sign anybody and we need to develop the minor league talent that we have. I'm not high on Bum as is but I just don't think this would be a good deal for the organization.

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                  • msuboy11
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                    • Jun 2011
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                    #3834
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    What would it take for Mike Aviles? Also what would it take for Brandon Inge? I need a good bench player that could be a starter. My current starter at 2B is Carlos Guillen, so I coul duse a new starter. I CAN move Headley to 2B, so if there is a 3B option FHA is better, please let me know. Right now, the only two players on my bench are Will Venable and Chris Denorfia(I think the other player is Denorfia). Both are good bench players, but both are outfielders. I have a surplus of pitching on MLB level, so I will probably move a couple down. I like Infe, because he can play C and the whole IF. He hits OK, but is a great fielder. I'm looking for mainly cheap, but good players in this/these deals, because I gave up a lot to get Bumgarner! Thanks ahead for the input that will be given!
                    Last edited by msuboy11; 06-14-2012, 03:49 AM.

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                    • msuboy11
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                      • Jun 2011
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                      #3835
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by franch1se
                      the trade is fair, I'm looking at it more as an organizational deal.

                      we have a ton of pitching depth and talent in the minors (Kelly, Wieland, Ross, Sampson, Erlin, Portillo to name a few) where pitching would not be a top priority (BumG). Panik is a good SS prospect but in an organization where we need hitters we are dealing Gyorko (great bat and moved to 2B, shown lots of power and ability to hit), Liriano (#1 prospect, potential 5 tool stud), maybe Spangenberg (I don't know the whole details of the trade, another great bat, solid contact, built for Petco). We don't go out and sign anybody and we need to develop the minor league talent that we have. I'm not high on Bum as is but I just don't think this would be a good deal for the organization.
                      Trust me, I did not want to deal Spangenburg, but it was a must. I was fine with trading Sampson, because Bumgarner is only a year older and is already our ace, while Sampson is a few years away. I really think that Rincon isn't that far away from Gyroko(at least n game), and he's 2 years younger. Street had lost his role in the bullpen to our current closer Arodys Vizcaino and his setup job to Brad Boxerger. He wasn't doing us any good, and Brian Wilson was doing bad, so he could take over the closer reigns there. Liriano wasn't a big deal for me, because he is so raw, and we have Matt Joyce already in left(will play right later on) We have Maybin in center, and Milton Bradley in right(really resurgent). We have our 2nd round pick, Ken Page, who is 22, A pot, and he is pretty much MLB ready. You lose a year of two and you gain a guy that may start on MLB squad at beginning of next year, while Liriano will be at least 3 years away! We also have Donovan Tate, who has increased into A pot. He has been doing good on MLB level, and has secondary positions as 2B/SS (he is the right type of player for those two positions. I'm acting like we were developing him the during his minor league career!) we also have our 1st round pick, an A pot 3B that is 18yo. He has really good power numbers for his age, and could even move to 2B lat on in career. Spangenburg was the only one that I really didn't want to trade, but it was a must, and it got us Panik in return. I hope you read this, and will understand how it helps our organization. I now as a Padres fan, it's hard to jump on board as much, but we are making a playoff push, and we have a deep farm system. Looking forward to what you think about the deal after reading this!

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                      • s0crates12
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                        • Apr 2012
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                        #3836
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Hey guys need some advice, I'm the Mets, my catchers have been awful! Josh thole has a average of .175. I've already traded for jeff Mathis as a back up but now need a top level starting catcher to replace thole! Who do you reckon and what would I need to give away?
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                        • Totte
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
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                          #3837
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by s0crates12
                          Hey guys need some advice, I'm the Mets, my catchers have been awful! Josh thole has a average of .175. I've already traded for jeff Mathis as a back up but now need a top level starting catcher to replace thole! Who do you reckon and what would I need to give away?
                          How far into the season are you? Any teams that are clearly out of the race and could be sellers?

                          Miguel Olivo or Kurt Suzuki?

                          Olivo would probably cost one C and Suzuki two C's
                          Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                          • s0crates12
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                            • Apr 2012
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                            #3838
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Totte
                            How far into the season are you? Any teams that are clearly out of the race and could be sellers?

                            Miguel Olivo or Kurt Suzuki?

                            Olivo would probably cost one C and Suzuki two C's
                            I'm 40 games in, and mariners are 15-25 so olivo is an option
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                            • Totte
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                              • Mar 2005
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                              #3839
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by s0crates12
                              I'm 40 games in, and mariners are 15-25 so olivo is an option
                              Definitely if they're trailing by that much. Either way they'd have Montero and Jaso left on the roster so parting with Olivo wouldn't hurt them.

                              He's got a solid arm and nice pop in the bat so he should fit in nicely as a stopgap for you. Try and see if you can get him for one C prospect. If not, I'd consider going two lesser C's for him.

                              How's Oakland doing if you were to take a look at Kurt Suzuki?
                              Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                              • bugle987
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                                • Apr 2011
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                                #3840
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by s0crates12
                                Hey guys need some advice, I'm the Mets, my catchers have been awful! Josh thole has a average of .175. I've already traded for jeff Mathis as a back up but now need a top level starting catcher to replace thole! Who do you reckon and what would I need to give away?
                                Arencibia could be a fit

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