Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

[The Chef]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

I wanted to play the exact same teams now but with a low tier starting pitcher, but too bad the Chi Sox have 5 really good starters, lol.

I guess we can keep on playing and reporting the results

The Chef, you continue playing with the pitcher control low, and I'll keep playing with it at default (and only the strike frequency down to 0)...that way we can compare results.

I sat down and started giving it some serious thought tonight as it pertains to the CPU Pitcher Control slider and what Ive seen in the games that Ive played and I think Im finally at the point where Im ready to raise this to default and leave it alone. When I look back I can remember numerous times during every game when I check the swing feedback and it says the pitch was in my wheelhouse, in other words right over the heart of the plate, belt high which is fine if it happens at random but not when it happens as frequently as it was happening. Its funny that I find myself getting closer and closer to default everything again...

USER
RP Stamina (0)

CPU
RP Stamina (0)
Strike Frequency (0)

Pitcher Consistency (6) *Im going to give this a shot since Im sick and tired of seeing the CPU throw anywhere between 1-3 wild pitches per game. For anyone in the know, what would be the downside to raising the consistency slider one click to 6?

Anyone who has tried strike frequency at 0 and 1, did you notice any difference at all?

[Blzer]

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The Chef, I don't really know what to say man. The one run in the 8th inning of my game was actually off Webb (he threw 7 2/3 and it was a triple that fell into RCF after the right fielder tried to dive for it and missed, then scored the run).

I guess I haven't paid too much attention to when I score my runs, but I'll definitely be looking out for when I do. I still say that it's important to have the control slider up a little just so there's more corner pitching, and like I said for a swing only guy you can probably raise the Solid Hits slider a notch or two and see if that helps.

I got to play my first game today since maybe Monday. Yes, I've let the game run but it was CPU vs CPU. Unfortunately, it wasn't an offline game. It was online vs funky_chicken (my first online game, and it's absolutely dreadful for thousands of reasons). Hopefully tomorrow I'll get a game in with my sliders and really get a feel for relievers and the Strike Frequency slider.

[The Chef]

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The Chef, I don't really know what to say man. The one run in the 8th inning of my game was actually off Webb (he threw 7 2/3 and it was a triple that fell into RCF after the right fielder tried to dive for it and missed, then scored the run).

I guess I haven't paid too much attention to when I score my runs, but I'll definitely be looking out for when I do. I still say that it's important to have the control slider up a little just so there's more corner pitching, and like I said for a swing only guy you can probably raise the Solid Hits slider a notch or two and see if that helps.

I got to play my first game today since maybe Monday. Yes, I've let the game run but it was CPU vs CPU. Unfortunately, it wasn't an offline game. It was online vs funky_chicken (my first online game, and it's absolutely dreadful for thousands of reasons). Hopefully tomorrow I'll get a game in with my sliders and really get a feel for relievers and the Strike Frequency slider.

Please do, sliders in a baseball game can almost be more of a pain then their worth thanks to the variables that happen naturally in a game. I think Im going to stop posting in here though as Im really not commenting on your complete slider set and only a couple portions of it and I dont want to continue to get this thread derailed. Like I said previously, Im damn close to being back at default again, RP Stamina obviously needs to stay low, CPU Strike Frequency needs to stay low and fielder speed needs to stay low as well so now Im at the point where Im going to be checking out the Pitcher Consistency slider and seeing if that can help stop the large amounts of wild pitches the CPU seems to struggle with every game.

I was hell bent on keeping the CPU Pitch Control slider at 0 but I think it is leading to them hanging too many pitches as it is so Im going to have to raise it anyways. I need to read the definition for this particular slider to make sure my thought process matches up to it but other then that I think Im putting this back at default.

[pbz06]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

So I just played as the Mets going against Florida and Josh Johnson....

complete game shutout I suck tonight.

9 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 4 K.....71% strikes

Man he was dealing.

[The Chef]

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Yeah well scratch what I said earlier about raising the CPU Pitcher Control to default, in 5 innings Matt Cain has a no hitter against me and not a single ball has left the infield. Now before anyone says anything, this normally wouldnt be a huge deal but the problem is Im hitting everything off the end of the bat because the CPU is offering absolutely nothing to hit and Im a swing only guy who doesnt use the left stick at all. I appreciate everyones feedback and input but Im going to fine tune things on my own instead of trying to force someone elses sliders to work for me. I will read here and offer what things I come acorss as I play but otherwise wont clutter blzers thread with my own sliders.

[pberardi]

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I don't know how anyone can play AS/HOF or Legend with CPU control at default and strike % at default.

The CPU is to be blunt; is quite obnoxious IMO. The cpu pounds the strikezone and corners too effectively thus leading to a plethora of 0-2,1-2 counts and loads of stikeouts by the user.

You have to lower these by at least 2 to 3 clicks from default if not more.

You have to take into consideration that when the cpu's confidence level gets high, and it seems that it does much quicker this year, you get quite the challenge regardless.

I'm just not seeing cpu control and strike% very playable at default. Few walks and few hitter counts.

[Blzer]

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Yeah well scratch what I said earlier about raising the CPU Pitcher Control to default, in 5 innings Matt Cain has a no hitter against me and not a single ball has left the infield. Now before anyone says anything, this normally wouldnt be a huge deal but the problem is Im hitting everything off the end of the bat because the CPU is offering absolutely nothing to hit and Im a swing only guy who doesnt use the left stick at all. I appreciate everyones feedback and input but Im going to fine tune things on my own instead of trying to force someone elses sliders to work for me. I will read here and offer what things I come acorss as I play but otherwise wont clutter blzers thread with my own sliders.

Did you try raising the Solid Hits slider like I suggested?

You said everything was at default, right? LOL I suggest (of course, only a suggestion) that you try my default sliders and raise Contact a notch and Solid Hits two notches. See what happens.

[JayD]

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Chef, who is that in your avatar?

[pbz06]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

I don't know how anyone can play AS/HOF or Legend with CPU control at default and strike % at default.

The CPU is to be blunt; is quite obnoxious IMO. The cpu pounds the strikezone and corners too effectively thus leading to a plethora of 0-2,1-2 counts and loads of stikeouts by the user.

You have to lower these by at least 2 to 3 clicks from default if not more.

You have to take into consideration that when the cpu's confidence level gets high, and it seems that it does much quicker this year, you get quite the challenge regardless.

I'm just not seeing cpu control and strike% very playable at default. Few walks and few hitter counts.

Well that's what we all noticed, including Blzer, which is why he has his CPU strike frequency at -5 too, just like me. His sliders are a really great start and so far working out for me. We're just trying to make them perfet but so far it's hard to perfect because of the numerous variables from game to game

[Blzer]

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Alright, this is my first played game since Monday. It was the Mets (me) vs the Astros. Santana and Oswalt were the starters. I'll have to admit I was pretty trigger-happy when it came to pitches, but I still had zero problems getting some rather decent solid hits (though I didn't walk at the same time).








































































Delgado hit into the shift twice where it could have been singles to the left and right of the second baseman had he been positioned normally, but this wasn't the case and he was able to get him out both times. The second time, Delgado lost his cool and was ejected, so that explains his being subbed out. Meanwhile, Humberto Quintero was injured on a slider that ran in on him and was taken out.

I could have won this game, I just failed to haha. For them, Pence and Berkman hit back-to-back home runs, and I accidentally gave one to Towles right down the middle for a single because for some reason I thought he was the pitcher, staying in the game to hit (which wasn't the case). That started that one rally where Boone hit a two-run double in the right center gap that I almost tracked down with Beltran. Wright also flew out to the warning track in right field, but the 5 MPH wind blowing in from center may have knocked it down.

They also strangely tried to steal with El Caballo, who I threw out at second. I also threw out a runner going to third, which was strange when I noticed the runner at first didn't take off for second.

Oh, and there was only one wild pitch all game. It was by them and it was early in the game, but that's all that there ended up being.


Overall a good game, and this was with Strike Frequency still at 0. I think for now I'll keep it there, these sliders have been doing very well for me lately. I may try raising the CPU contact to 4 and see what happens. I got a PM about that and I think I may try it. If they have too much success, I may lower the timing by 1 and then see how that pans out.

[The Chef]

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I don't know how anyone can play AS/HOF or Legend with CPU control at default and strike % at default.

The CPU is to be blunt; is quite obnoxious IMO. The cpu pounds the strikezone and corners too effectively thus leading to a plethora of 0-2,1-2 counts and loads of stikeouts by the user.

You have to lower these by at least 2 to 3 clicks from default if not more.

You have to take into consideration that when the cpu's confidence level gets high, and it seems that it does much quicker this year, you get quite the challenge regardless.

I'm just not seeing cpu control and strike% very playable at default. Few walks and few hitter counts.

Thats what I noticed as well when I bumped Pitch Control to default, Matt Cain was just destroying the strike zone and they were all on the corner so even if I swung I couldnt do anything with them. I then came to the realization that no slider set will work perfectly for everyone and Im basically tuning things on my own now where as previously I was basically trying to fit a round peg in a square hole over and over again with no such luck.

Did you try raising the Solid Hits slider like I suggested?

You said everything was at default, right? LOL I suggest (of course, only a suggestion) that you try my default sliders and raise Contact a notch and Solid Hits two notches. See what happens.

I appreciate the suggestion but Im just not sure the game needs such a drastic change with the sliders, thats not to say what your using and seeing on your end isnt working for you but for me I feel like Im so close to perfection already that a drastic overhaul of the sliders would only work to move me further away from that goal and back into the tweaking stages again. When I was using my previous setup of Pitch Control (0) and Strike Frequency (1) I was getting good games against stud pitchers but the bullpen was really struggling for them. Ive since raised the Pitcher Consistency slider to (6) to see if that helps since the description mentions something to the effect of helping them from missing their spots from a wide margin which could help those relievers out.

To address those suggestions more specifically, Ive already tried raising contact in the past and while it certainly helps the hitting numbers, as evidenced by my whipping I put on Arizona 10-0, but it also allows me to check swing more often and foul off more pitches it seems and by doing this I dont strike out much if at all. My hesitation to mess with the Solid Hits slider is mainly because then when a pitch does catch more of the plate I dont want it to be an automatic homerun, I want to still struggle.

In the end I really think 90% of the sliders do such little to the gameplay that even the most drastic of changes makes a minimal difference anyways. Im a swing only player who besides a run in with Jon Garland (with contact at 6) I havent been able to really touch up a starter since then and Ive faced studs (Peavy, Webb) to above average pitchers (Chris Young) to average pitchers (Baek, Garland, Doug Davis) so there has to be something to the relievers struggling when coming into games. Is Qualls a great closer? I doubt it but stranger things have happened, but its not like Im out there roughing up K-Rod or Papelbon or Rivera for 5 runs in the 9th so until I start teeing off on good, solid relievers Im afraid to change much in fear that it will in turn make those stud starters and good relivers impossible to hit off of.

Dont hesitate to shoot me any other thoughts you have blzer, or anyone else for that matter. Sometime we should sit down and chat as well as Ive always been intrigued by moving to San Diego and seeing that you live there you could probably give some pretty good feedback about the place.

[pberardi]

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The funny thing is I seem to be getting the same 3 walk, 8 strikeout boxscore. Game after game. The runs scored and hits greatly vary but the walk opportunities don't seem to improve as for my strikeouts, it seems SCEA toned down the foul tips this year in order to tighten the hitting engine.

I tried increasing contact, foul slider and played with the cpu pitching sliders. It doesn't matter so I'm done tweaking for more contact. If I can't layoff the slider away then that's my problem not the slider set.

As for lower cpu control and strikes, one thing I can say is the cpu will still throw more strikes than balls (which is good) no matter what the combo. The balance of pitcher counts and hitter counts seem better when these are lowered.

But I'm convinced the cpu is not going to give away walks, you have to use your skill level for better walk totals.

The cpu still paints the corners as I get frustrated on many at bats.

So I'm not advocating going down to zero but 3 to 4 clicks should give those who like to work the count a more realistic game.

[The Chef]

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The funny thing is I seem to be getting the same 3 walk, 8 strikeout boxscore. Game after game. The runs scored and hits greatly vary but the walk opportunities don't seem to improve as for my strikeouts, it seems SCEA toned down the foul tips this year in order to tighten the hitting engine.

I tried increasing contact, foul slider and played with the cpu pitching sliders. It doesn't matter so I'm done tweaking for more contact. If I can't layoff the slider away then that's my problem not the slider set.

As for lower cpu control and strikes, one thing I can say is the cpu will still throw more strikes than balls (which is good) no matter what the combo. The balance of pitcher counts and hitter counts seem better when these are lowered.

But I'm convinced the cpu is not going to give away walks, you have to use your skill level for better walk totals.

The cpu still paints the corners as I get frustrated on many at bats.

So I'm not advocating going down to zero but 3 to 4 clicks should give those who like to work the count a more realistic game.

Agree, this is a great game either way and Im sure I will find a remedy for my problem. If you look back to my report of my game against Arizona and Brandon Webb, with Control at (0) and Strike Frequency (1) Webb still threw a first pitch strike to 70%+ of the batters he faced and still dominated me, his undoing was a few wild pitches but now that Ive bumped this up to (6) from default I dont think Im going to see this nearly as often.

[Blzer]

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So I guess I'm kind of confused... is my set workable for you guys, or is there some necessary tweaking that you guys are inferring? Like pberardi, you're saying that you're getting those same games over and over, but then you said it was of your own doing. I'm not understanding if this means there's something I should look into for my slider set or not?

And then Chef, you were talking about not wanting to do any minor tweaks for fear of domination, but you also said that even the most extreme of slider changes sometimes show little effect. I mean I really don't know what to advise here, I was just saying that the Control slider at 0 may be a little too easy when it comes to hacking at pitches hanging in the zone. I had it around 3 or 4 when I first started the set, but since I do my left stick aiming I simply got better, so now it's at 5.

Anyway, about San Diego... great city. I'd love to say more about it for you, but probably not in the event of hijacking my own thread haha. Keep in touch and we'll delve into that topic more.

Onto playing another game: Baltimore (CPU) vs Seattle (me).

[JoeRyan33]

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I've used these sliders as the basis for my play on HOF, and I'm enjoying the results. The only question I have is on pitch speed, and the reasons for lowering it. Is this to make hitting easier or more challenging?

I've kepy my pitch speed at default level, and may consider upping it to give more oomph to fastballs.

Loving this set as my basis. Thanks lads.