Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

[Blzer]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

To be honest, the only reason for it is because empirically I feel this matches real life pitching on a more realistic level. Otherwise I would have it on 5, like I had it when I first created this thread.

[The Chef]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

And then Chef, you were talking about not wanting to do any minor tweaks for fear of domination, but you also said that even the most extreme of slider changes sometimes show little effect. I mean I really don't know what to advise here, I was just saying that the Control slider at 0 may be a little too easy when it comes to hacking at pitches hanging in the zone. I had it around 3 or 4 when I first started the set, but since I do my left stick aiming I simply got better, so now it's at 5.

Anyway, about San Diego... great city. I'd love to say more about it for you, but probably not in the event of hijacking my own thread haha. Keep in touch and we'll delve into that topic more.

Onto playing another game: Baltimore (CPU) vs Seattle (me).

Apologies, what I was getting at was two fold. Major changes to a couple sliders are one thing, and some dont seem to do much anyways, but Im hesitant to adjust as many sliders that you have for fear that it will in turn negatively effect other areas of the game and send me back to a full on adjusting period again when I feel like Im so close to perfection already. For instance, I put CPU Fielder Speed at 0 and I honestly dont see much of a difference in the field but I drop Pitcher Control to 0 and I clearly see a major difference between this and default. Whats tough is we play in two totally different ways, you utilize the left stick and I dont so when Im trying to adjust things Im taking into account the way I play, which is opposite of the way you play.

When I made the comment about making a small adjustment that might lead to domination on my part it was more because, while some sliders dont seem to do ****, others do and I would hate to raise the Solid Hits slider or Contact only to now be hitting pitchers pitches for extra base hits as thats just as unrealistic as what I was seeing previously.

I appreciate all the feedback and yes we should chat about San Diego sometime. Any more general tips or feedback for me would be appreciated.

[Blzer]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

Haha well do you mean dropping Fielder Speed from 1 to 0, or from 5 to 0? Because yeah, 1 to 0 wouldn't be too drastic.

I just suggest that maybe you don't go to too many extremes with anything. Maybe try Pitching Control at 2? Or try at 5 and raise Solid Hits one more? I don't know, it's just all about tweaking and finding out what's best for you. I still say you should try increasing Solid Hits by one with more corner pitching, but I really don't know how much it will affect everything.

[The Chef]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

Haha well do you mean dropping Fielder Speed from 1 to 0, or from 5 to 0? Because yeah, 1 to 0 wouldn't be too drastic.

I just suggest that maybe you don't go to too many extremes with anything. Maybe try Pitching Control at 2? Or try at 5 and raise Solid Hits one more? I don't know, it's just all about tweaking and finding out what's best for you. I still say you should try increasing Solid Hits by one with more corner pitching, but I really don't know how much it will affect everything.

I was talking from 5 to 0, I just didnt see the difference at all, now as guys are getting tired and arent playing at full strength Im noticing it more but I assume thats an effect of the energy and not necessarily the slider.

I may give those other ideas a shot at some point if I just cant get it where I want it but we also have to consider that the Dodgers offense on the game with Manny is ranked pretty high so they should be doing somewhat well anyways. My first test is Pitcher Control at 0 but with Consistency at 6 and see what happens, if this doesnt work then I will bump the Control slider up until I get to where I want to get. I will say one thing, this years game is far easier to get a handle on then last years game when I was tweaking every slider possible praying I could get to where I am already this year.

[boblight24]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

2 questions:

1 - How do I turn off Swing Influence? The only place I see it is on the options menu from the main menu, not in my season and I turn it off and go into my season, go back out and it's back to on...

and

2 - Does it affect your swing if you don't use it? I keep hitting the ball on the ground no matter where it's pitched and I have only 15 homers in 32 games....

[Blzer]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

2 questions:

2 answers:

1 - How do I turn off Swing Influence? The only place I see it is on the options menu from the main menu, not in my season and I turn it off and go into my season, go back out and it's back to on...

Maybe if you press Pause during the middle of a game and see if it pops up in the options there, then you can turn it off and then save your franchise after the game. See if it stays "disabled" after that point.

and

and

2 - Does it affect your swing if you don't use it? I keep hitting the ball on the ground no matter where it's pitched and I have only 15 homers in 32 games....

It will not affect your swing, and to be honest it rarely is a decent tool for you when you do use it as well.

[pbz06]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

Just played as the Phillies hosting the Pirates and Ian Snell. I must admit I was a little impatient at the plate.

Ian Snell
6 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K
72% strikes

J. Grabow
2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K (yikes, cy young here)
63% strikes

C. Hansen
1.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
72% strikes


Final Box Score
Pitt 3 10 1
Phi 4 13 1

[Blzer]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

That's with Strike Frequency at 0?

Of course, you said you were impatient at the plate, but I think we all are a little bit, hence the reason we need a low SF setting.

Oh and I never did get to play that game I set up. I was asked to go out and I obliged.

[pbz06]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

That's with Strike Frequency at 0?

Of course, you said you were impatient at the plate, but I think we all are a little bit, hence the reason we need a low SF setting.

Oh and I never did get to play that game I set up. I was asked to go out and I obliged.

Yup, all my games right now are with your Global slider changes, CPU strike frequency at 0 (-5), reliever stamina at 0 (-5) for both Human and CPU...the rest of the Human and CPU sliders are at default.

Edit - I actually have the pitch speed at default though. I didn't want to mess with the ball physics or speed from the way it was intended.

[pbz06]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

My last several games, the strike frequency was almost 70% even each time. I can live with that for a video game, it can lower even more if I make a conscious effort to be very patient. Somebody said that the MLB average is about 63% in real life.

Right now it seems that the star pitchers still throw strikes so I like it at 0 right now. It's just human nature to be aggressive in a video game especially. When I was at the plate with Utley, Howard etc. I swung at several balls. I think it's good overall. I'll still play more games though I want to try with more lower tier pitchers...Ian Snell is middle of the road, but he's capable of being solid here and there.

I also want to look at what Chef poster above was talking about the relievers. He might have a point. Although my offense is stinking right now, I did feel more comfortable against some of the relievers....they seemed like they wanted me to hit them. Although Gabrow dominated me with the K's and no hits for 2 innings, he did throw a lot of balls and I had a deep counts and bad swings.

[Blzer]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

Edit - I actually have the pitch speed at default though. I didn't want to mess with the ball physics or speed from the way it was intended.

Like I said with this one, Pitch Speed at 3 feels much more like a real fastball. I may be wrong, but at 5, a 94 MPH fastball feels faster than one in real life.

[JoeRyan33]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

Like I said with this one, Pitch Speed at 3 feels much more like a real fastball. I may be wrong, but at 5, a 94 MPH fastball feels faster than one in real life.

For me default feels slower than a real life fastball. I've played against some pretty good former college pitchers and upping the pitch speed slider seems to feel more like a real life fastball to me, like I can actually get beat with a good heater after seeing something offspeed. I've gone +3.

[pbz06]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

OK, had another good game with good results (except for me always losing late in the game, although I won't go as far as saying it's part of the comeback AI glitch, haha).

This game is hard, I tried being Tampa Bay with Shields going up against Baltimore. I used their worst starting pitcher, Radhames Liz, and the results were sort of what I expected which is a good sign and the sliders seem to be working.

He was a little wild, at least relative to the other better pitchers I've faced.

R. Liz
5 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 3 BB, 3 K
92 pitches, 59% strikes

J. Johnson
1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K
25 pitches, 68% strikes

D. Baez
1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
17 pitches, 71% strikes

D. Sarfate
1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K
9 pitches, 78% strikes

Final Box
TB 5 9 0
Bal 7 16 0

Bal: 5 doubles, 2 homeruns
TB (me): 3 doubles, 1 homerun

[pberardi]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

So I guess I'm kind of confused... is my set workable for you guys, or is there some necessary tweaking that you guys are inferring? Like pberardi, you're saying that you're getting those same games over and over, but then you said it was of your own doing. I'm not understanding if this means there's something I should look into for my slider set or not?

And then Chef, you were talking about not wanting to do any minor tweaks for fear of domination, but you also said that even the most extreme of slider changes sometimes show little effect. I mean I really don't know what to advise here, I was just saying that the Control slider at 0 may be a little too easy when it comes to hacking at pitches hanging in the zone. I had it around 3 or 4 when I first started the set, but since I do my left stick aiming I simply got better, so now it's at 5.

Anyway, about San Diego... great city. I'd love to say more about it for you, but probably not in the event of hijacking my own thread haha. Keep in touch and we'll delve into that topic more.

Onto playing another game: Baltimore (CPU) vs Seattle (me).

We're not talking exact science here. Baseball and sliders is dynamic, meaning different variety of games.

I would not spend your time deciphering wether your sliders draw a reasonable amount of walks or not. Heck, if one can't draw walks with cpu strike and control sliders well below default well practice is what's needed.

I'm getting 3 walks per game but I swing at ball 4 at least 2x per game. I'm also using the L stick more frequently with 2 strikes and noticed foul tips are prevalent so I'm able to fight off good pitches and perhaps stay alive to draw a few more walks.

As for strike %, lowering it does not tilt the game in the users favor, I think it brings balance.

As for lowering control I'm starting to show some concern. Either I'm getting better at the L stick or control is leaving too many pitches over the plate. I just chased Johann Santana in the 5th with 5 runs on 3 walks and 7 hits, 2 HR's!

Both HR's came on high pitches for opposite field HR's. (I was aiming low with my L stick so we really don't have zone hitting but cursor hitting in MLB)

I did lower contact to offset lower control. Perhaps zero and -4 is a bit extreme. If you start hitting more than 9 hits and HR's fairly easy it maybe time to tweak control closer to default.

Each user is different. But I think your slider set and research can certainly be a core slider set for users like me.

Don't be afraid to tweak after 20 games or so. These slider threads can run for several months.

Thanks for your efforts and research and you too Chef. (like the avatar!)

[rudyjuly2]

Re: Blzer's All-Star Sliders and Settings

Chef, who is that in your avatar?

Lucy Pinder.

Edit: I see Chef actually has her name in the avatar lol.