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  • steven
    Pro
    • Mar 2005
    • 621

    #256
    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

    Originally posted by dowie
    Still playing his HOF set from last year. My only complaint with it is cpu contact @ 5. Where did you put the cpu contact? Did you make any changes to the HOF set last year?

    Dowie
    Dowie,, Dowie, Dowie, its been a long time, how are you? did you get my PM i sent you about 2 weeks ago? well anyway i played corey set last year it was great, but i played his sliders on legend level, so i kept everything they way it was.

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    • dowie
      MVP
      • Feb 2005
      • 1986

      #257
      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

      Originally posted by steven
      Dowie,, Dowie, Dowie, its been a long time, how are you? did you get my PM i sent you about 2 weeks ago? well anyway i played corey set last year it was great, but i played his sliders on legend level, so i kept everything they way it was.
      g?
      long time my friend....u played his hof slider set on legend....didnt you have issues with the cpu offense being too powerful with the 5/7 hittin
      Cardinals Nation - For The Lou
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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #258
        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

        Originally posted by Jgainsey
        Hmm.. I just checked my numbers, and through 21 games I have an almost perfect 1:1 ratio for HRs and 2Bs. The doubles have definitely been catching up a little over the last 11 or 12 games(around the time I dropped power to 4), but it's still worrisome.

        What do you think would be the best way to attack this particular issue? I think power may need to come down another click, but I'm not sure about solid hits, as my batting averages have been good. And for that matter, everything except HR's has been just about perfect. Personally, that's really the only sticking point with me this year.

        Maybe solid hits back at default, and power down to 3, or even 2. Though if I moved solid hits back to default, contact will probably have to come down a click.. and then fouls may have to come up... Ugh. What do you think?
        When you said "what do you think...."

        Way ahead of you. I've been thinking a lot.

        Last night I ran two games back on Default User hitting. Well, mostly. 5's across the board, coupled with Default CPU Control/Consistency...which, as a result to these two, I dropped strike frequency to 3. Wind at 4. I know, that's alot, but what I saw was promising.

        2 games. 9 doubles (yes, 9...including my highest double total in one game with 5), 3 HR's, 20 hits, 10 BB (including another single game milestone, with 7).

        My personal doubles issues happened the second I lowered Power and Solid Hits together. My gut tells me that dropping Power to 4 is a must, but we seem to be in the minority on this. And, our results in this department seem to be worse than CHD or Psychobulk/TNK.

        So, I'm going to eat my pride and KEEP solid hits at 4, and RAISE POWER back to Default. Okay, big point here, so read closely:

        I've already tried the whole Power 4 Solid Hits 5 thing, if you remember. My results were no better than yours currently. You know, 1:1. I have to believe that switching them (and switching our philosophy) is worth a shot, because this doubles/HR thing is borderline obnoxious at this point.

        Here's what I'm running tonight:

        User Contact 5
        User Power 5
        User Fouls 5
        User Timing 5
        User Solid Hits 4

        CPU Control 5
        CPU Consistency 5
        Strike Frequency 3

        FLD Run SPD 4
        FLD Arm Strength 4
        Wind 4

        Otherwise, I may just go back to Defaults. Or, reverse the Power/Solids. But I've already been down that road. Alas, we'll see.

        Note, the only change from my doubles explosion from yesterday is SH. I'm hoping this will still ONLY impact ball trajectory and batting average. Let's cross our fingers.
        Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-08-2011, 02:06 PM.

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        • coreyhartsdaughter
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 1107

          #259
          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

          Originally posted by heroesandvillians
          When you said "what do you think...."

          Way ahead of you. I've been thinking a lot.

          Last night I ran two games back on Default User hitting. Well, mostly. 5's across the board, coupled with Default CPU Control/Consistency...which, as a result to these two, I dropped strike frequency to 3. Wind at 4. I know, that's alot, but what I saw was promising.

          2 games. 9 doubles (yes, 9...including my highest double total in one game with 5), 3 HR's, 20 hits, 10 BB (including another single game milestone, with 7).

          My personal doubles issues happened the second I lowered Power and Solid Hits together. My gut tells me that dropping Power to 4 is a must, but we seem to be in the minority on this. And, our results in this department seem to be worse than CHD or Psychobulk/TNK.

          So, I'm going to eat my pride and KEEP solid hits at 4, and RAISE POWER back to Default. Okay, big point here, so read closely:

          I've already tried the whole Power 4 Solid Hits 5 thing, if you remember. My results were no better than yours currently. You know, 1:1. I have to believe that switching them (and switching our philosophy) is worth a shot, because this doubles/HR thing is borderline obnoxious at this point.

          Here's what I'm running tonight:

          User Contact 5
          User Power 5
          User Fouls 5
          User Timing 5
          User Solid Hits 4

          CPU Control 5
          CPU Consistency 5
          Strike Frequency 3

          FLD Run SPD 4
          FLD Arm Strength 4
          Wind 4

          Otherwise, I may just go back to Defaults. Or, reverse the Power/Solids. But I've already been down that road. Alas, we'll see.

          Note, the only change from my doubles explosion from yesterday is SH. I'm hoping this will still ONLY impact ball trajectory and batting average. Let's cross our fingers.
          If you were timing only, I'd immediately tell you it is your contact - your PCI is around / on the ball to often, causing these results.

          But I have no way to speak to analog.

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          • Heroesandvillains
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 5974

            #260
            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

            I am Timing Only. Jgainsey is Analog.

            Funny, I actually just logged on for this very reason. Thanks for the intro, CHD.

            Jgainsey, let's not discount that our imbalance of CPU control/User Contact as the possible culprit.

            I'm gonna run what I posted. If my average is too high, step one will be CPU Control 4/User Contact 4.

            Okay. Tonight, 5/5.

            Next step. 4/4.

            We need to keep these the same, via SCEA recommendation. Our 4/5 combo is quite possibly responsible for the gameplay imbalance.

            CHD is 100% correct. When we hit the ball, there's too much PCI on it.

            For that matter, JG, you could run a 4/4 while I run a 5/5, if you want. Let's both go back to Default Power though, and get back in touch after 5 games. Let me know what you want to do.
            Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-08-2011, 03:00 PM.

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            • Bobhead
              Pro
              • Mar 2011
              • 4926

              #261
              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

              Another exciting game, and in the most manly way possible, I am falling in love with Taylor Buchholz ^_^ Another scoreless inning, this one against the heart of the Dodgers lineup, in a tie 3-3 game, in which he came on with a runner on 2nd.

              And you know you had a hell of a close game when your "player of the game" is a guy with 1 hit and 0 RBI (he drew a walk, and scored twice).

              Anyway I feel like I have everything just about perfect. I faced a starting pitcher who totally did not have his best stuff (Ted Lily), and I was smacking the ball a ton, but fielders caught many of them, also, so I only ended up with 5 hits / 3 runs against him in 5+1/3 IP, sounds about right, no?

              20 foul balls even, 31 missed swings, 6 of which were strike 3, 4 of which were outside the strike zone (and 2 of those were actually on the corner, and stood a chance of actually being called a strike)

              Drew 3 Walks, but I gave up none, for the 2nd straight game in a row. And yet that game 2 games ago, I gave up 7 walks... O_o.

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              • Jgainsey
                I can't feel it
                • Mar 2007
                • 3362

                #262
                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                That sounds good. I'll give 4/4 a go for 5 or 6 games, and then report back.

                You're sticking with solid hits at 4, right?

                I think I'm going to do that, while also putting cpu hitting back to default.
                Now, more than ever

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                • Heroesandvillains
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #263
                  Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                  Originally posted by Jgainsey
                  That sounds good. I'll give 4/4 a go for 5 or 6 games, and then report back.

                  You're sticking with solid hits at 4, right?

                  I think I'm going to do that, while also putting cpu hitting back to default.
                  Yeah, I'm going with SH 4 for me and the CPU. Power back to 5 for me and the CPU.

                  I'm still in between User Contact and CPU Control. I'm definitely matching them, I'm just unsure on 4 or 5.

                  And be patient, so to speak, with dropping frequency. I firmly believe that it'll take the CPU a few games to adjust to our hitting tendencies. In other words, don't freak out of they're at 59% strikes for a game or two. I'm pretty sure they'll balance out.

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                  • Heroesandvillains
                    MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 5974

                    #264
                    Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                    Jgainsey,

                    Before you delete your franchise, or toss out the pages in your notebook, would you mind sharing your pitching stats. You know, with CPU power and SH at 4, Control 4, Consistency 3, and Wind 3?...Basically, your pitching stats from the exact sliders on page one.

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                    • Bobhead
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 4926

                      #265
                      Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                      I REALLY hate Ubaldo Jimenez and his damn triple digit fastball.
                      That is all.

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                      • Heroesandvillains
                        MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 5974

                        #266
                        Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                        Originally posted by Bobhead
                        I REALLY hate Ubaldo Jimenez and his damn triple digit fastball.
                        That is all.
                        Don't even get me started on Clay Bucholtz and his 6 consecutive change ups. ALL of which I saw as a fastball, and ALL of which I swung and missed on!

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                        • steelcityjames
                          Pro
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 877

                          #267
                          Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                          Originally posted by Bobhead
                          I REALLY hate Ubaldo Jimenez and his damn triple digit fastball.
                          That is all.
                          i recently faced strasburg for the first time in my pirates 'chise.... that kid was flat-out nasty!!!!!!

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                          • Jgainsey
                            I can't feel it
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 3362

                            #268
                            Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                            Originally posted by heroesandvillians
                            Jgainsey,

                            Before you delete your franchise, or toss out the pages in your notebook, would you mind sharing your pitching stats. You know, with CPU power and SH at 4, Control 4, Consistency 3, and Wind 3?...Basically, your pitching stats from the exact sliders on page one.
                            Yeah, I actually didn't move consistency down until my last 10 games or so, but here are some quick pitching stats..

                            ERA - 4.37

                            Per game

                            K - 7.0
                            BB - 3.1
                            HR - 1.1

                            Strike Percentage: 64.7

                            This was over the course of a 24 games.
                            Now, more than ever

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                            • ILuvMary
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 192

                              #269
                              Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                              Every slider set I use, there is always too many solo HRs, and apparently this set is no different.

                              First batter of the game, Brian Roberts vs Francisco Liriano, and Roberts hits a HR!

                              Next batter was Adam Jones, and he hits a deep fly to LF that would have been a HR if not for Delmon Young robbing him at the wall.

                              Can I please just get a slider set where runs are scored on a different variety of hits.
                              Last edited by ILuvMary; 04-10-2011, 09:06 AM.

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                              • Heroesandvillains
                                MVP
                                • May 2009
                                • 5974

                                #270
                                Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

                                Originally posted by ILuvMary
                                Every slider set I use, there is always too many solo HRs, and apparently this set is no different.

                                First batter of the game, Brian Roberts vs Francisco Liriano, and Roberts hits a HR!

                                Next batter was Adam Jones, and he hits a deep fly to LF that would have been a HR if not for Delmon Young robbing him at the wall.

                                Can I please just get a slider set where runs are scored on a different variety of hits.
                                We agree. We're with you on that, including this set.

                                If you read back, we're testing new tweaks, specifically for this issue.

                                Here's what I'm running now:

                                All from page one, except...

                                Human Power 4
                                Human Solid Hits 4
                                CPU Control 5
                                CPU Consistency 5
                                Strike Frequency 3
                                Wind 4

                                Test with me bro!!! 2 games, 5 2B, 2HR, 7BB.

                                We're all about criticism man. Criticize away. But please, in the future, suggestions/questions would be more appreciated. Again, we're ironing this HR issue out. If you want, play 5 games with these tweaks and report back.
                                Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-10-2011, 11:11 AM.

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