HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

I think I'm going to have to try out the HUM Control/Consistency sliders for pitching. In the first 3 games of my Mets franchise, I've yet to walk anyone. Usually, this is the other way around, but with the CPU at 5-5-3, I've drawn 7 walks in 3 games.

I've tried pitching around the CPU but with the sliders all at 5, it's still too easy (even on HOF) to paint corners or to throw the pitch exactly where you intend for it to go.

Control is far less sensitive than consistency DJ.

Drop consistency to 3 and change nothing else. It's borderline too hard to hit your upstroke. I LOVE 4, but find 3 to give me that extra challenge. Start with 4.

Consistency seems to directly impact the meter sensitivity, which is precisely the reason none of us were issuing walks on default. If you like your current slider set, and are ONLY bothered by the lack of walks, consistency is your answer. I feel very comfortable saying this now. I've tested it enough to not have to beat around the bush, so to speak.

I mainly hope they just patch it so I can leave everything at 5. Please, post your concerns in the "attn...feedback" thread before it's too late. They very well might address this in the upcoming patch if enough people speak out. (I linked it on the previous page).

[Jgainsey]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

I don't know about you guys, but just switching cpu control/consistency/freq. to 5/5/3 has made a world of difference. A big thanks to CHD and heroesandvillians for pushing me back in the right direction, because it's like I've flipped a switch in the game lately.

I don't have my numbers in front of me, but over the last 6 or 7 games I've hit 3HR to go with about 9 or 10 2B.

Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping my sliders right where they are on the first page. Contact at 4 has been very good to me so far, but if you're having some trouble with analog hitting, you may want to start out at default.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

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I don't know about you guys, but just switching cpu control/consistency/freq. to 5/5/3 has made a world of difference. A big thanks to CHD and heroesandvillians for pushing me back in the right direction, because it's like I've flipped a switch in the game lately.

I don't have my numbers in front of me, but over the last 6 or 7 games I've hit 3HR to go with about 9 or 10 2B.

Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping my sliders right where they are on the first page. Contact at 4 has been very good to me so far, but if you're having some trouble with analog hitting, you may want to start out at default.

Contact 4, Solid Hits 4. If YOU'RE still hitting too many HR, go to Contact 3, or raise CPU Control back to 5.

Contact fixes many if not most everything in the game, but too many people are reluctant to use it because they take a poor approach at the plate and K a lot (which is no fun). Then in the same breath they'll complain about too many hits or HR...

I think the addition of the contact swing (+normal swing) has been a HUGE plus in terms of being able to decrease the contact slider. Now you sort of have a hitter by hitter option, or situational decision to attempt to extend the at bat, 'just put something in play', or swing normal. (I still don't use power swing).

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

I don't know about you guys, but just switching cpu control/consistency/freq. to 5/5/3 has made a world of difference. A big thanks to CHD and heroesandvillians for pushing me back in the right direction, because it's like I've flipped a switch in the game lately.

I don't have my numbers in front of me, but over the last 6 or 7 games I've hit 3HR to go with about 9 or 10 2B.

Right now, I'm leaning towards keeping my sliders right where they are on the first page. Contact at 4 has been very good to me so far, but if you're having some trouble with analog hitting, you may want to start out at default.

Is that all from 5/5/3 games, with contact at 4/power at 4/SH at 4?

This is very similar to what I'm using, and my results have been crazy good.

Aside from my strikeouts. Like CHD said, that's why I'm reluctant to drop Contact. I just swing and miss a little too often, and my average is still pretty low. It's all me, though. Damn changeups. The CPU will abuse me all game long with them. I think I may need to isolate them during some BP.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

Aside from my strikeouts. Like CHD said, that's why I'm reluctant to drop Contact. I just swing and miss a little too often, and my average is still pretty low. It's all me, though. Damn changeups. The CPU will abuse me all game long with them. I think I may need to isolate them during some BP.

That wasn't a jab at anyone in here regarding contact!

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

That wasn't a jab at anyone in here regarding contact!

Oh. I know man.

The only jabbing going on is by me, towards me.

Change ups get me, every...single...time.

[Jgainsey]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

Is that all from 5/5/3 games, with contact at 4/power at 4/SH at 4?

This is very similar to what I'm using, and my results have been crazy good.

Aside from my strikeouts. Like CHD said, that's why I'm reluctant to drop Contact. I just swing and miss a little too often, and my average is still pretty low. It's all me, though. Damn changeups. The CPU will abuse me all game long with them. I think I may need to isolate them during some BP.

Yeah, that's exactly what I've been using. I only had a really tough time with K's the first game I dropped contact to 4 moved the cpu back to 5/5/3. It took me a game to kind of adapt to the slightly different way the cpu pitcher was attacking me. After that, it's been business as usual.

For me, the key with change ups was just being able to lay off most of the ones that drop out of the strike zone. As long as I'm able to layoff the change ups that are being thrown for balls, I can usually keep 'em honest with it. But the pitch recognition is key.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

Yeah, that's exactly what I've been using. I only had a really tough time with K's the first game I dropped contact to 4 moved the cpu back to 5/5/3. It took me a game to kind of adapt to the slightly different way the cpu pitcher was attacking me. After that, it's been business as usual.

For me, the key with change ups was just being able to lay off most of the ones that drop out of the strike zone. As long as I'm able to layoff the change ups that are being thrown for balls, I can usually keep 'em honest with it. But the pitch recognition is key.

That's the thing. How do you recognize them when they're down? They look like fastballs down the middle at first.

The hanging change is a different story. I belted one last night, perfect timing. If it wasn't for the wind blowing straight in, I would have thrown myself a party...pointed party caps, cake and all...when that ball landed 505 ft into right center. Instead, it ended up being to the warning track. I was pretty proud if myself for driving that one though.

That said, I like the extra challenge. I may very well give these settings a go tonight after some BP.

[eamuscatuli15]

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i'm definitely an analog hitter...and changed over to these sliders the other day along with UPPING it to HOF. those two changes at once were a bit much for me at the plate...lots of k's!!! so i dropped pitch speed to 3 for now just to give myself a better look at the plate while i adjust to the sliders and HOF level. Played a game on lunch break hitting only and made much better contact.

I'll put the pitch speed slider back to where it belongs according to the slider set once i get more comfortable with the level and sliders in general.

so as of now what's on page 1 is what Jgainsey, heroeandvillians, etc...are playing with??? in the last couple pages of the thread i've been reading i've seen a lot of discussion about 5/5/3 and contact at 4 and things of that nature...simply put what's on page 1 is where we're at right now, correct?

thanks

[Jgainsey]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

i'm definitely an analog hitter...and changed over to these sliders the other day along with UPPING it to HOF. those two changes at once were a bit much for me at the plate...lots of k's!!! so i dropped pitch speed to 3 for now just to give myself a better look at the plate while i adjust to the sliders and HOF level. Played a game on lunch break hitting only and made much better contact.

I'll put the pitch speed slider back to where it belongs according to the slider set once i get more comfortable with the level and sliders in general.

so as of now what's on page 1 is what Jgainsey, heroeandvillians, etc...are playing with??? in the last couple pages of the thread i've been reading i've seen a lot of discussion about 5/5/3 and contact at 4 and things of that nature...simply put what's on page 1 is where we're at right now, correct?

thanks

Yeah man, the set on the first page is where I'm at right now. I think heroesandvillians is just about the same. Though I'm pretty sure he has contact at 5. Other than that, I'm not sure if anything else is different.

[Jgainsey]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

That's the thing. How do you recognize them when they're down? They look like fastballs down the middle at first.

To be completely honest, I'm not really sure how I pick up on it. I just happen to pick up on the speed difference in time to check my swing.

But yeah, if it's up, there's nothing easier to hit.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

Yeah man, the set on the first page is where I'm at right now. I think heroesandvillians is just about the same. Though I'm pretty sure he has contact at 5. Other than that, I'm not sure if anything else is different.

Yes. Very much the same. But I'm Timing Only, so my changes shouldn't necessarily influence Eamuscatuli.

I'm actually messing around with a Classic Pitching slider set that I've been toying with, while awaiting the patch. It's a bunch of fun, but a bunch of frustrating as well.

That isn't to say that I don't LOVE his pitching sliders. They're practically perfect in every way. I just don't want to start with them and change them later if SCEA patches difficulty. I'd rather start again on Default and see how it "feels."

[Bobhead]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

Had another great game. Had a no-hitter going into the 8th, but they were doing a good job of wearing down my pitcher, who also had sporadic control issues. It's a near no hitter so obviously not much going on in the box score, so I just stuck with a line score only:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" width="575" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="13" align="center">LAA at TB - </td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">Jan 1, </td><td width="5%" align="right">1</td><td width="5%" align="right">2</td><td width="5%" align="right">3</td><td width="5%" align="right">4</td><td width="5%" align="right">5</td><td width="5%" align="right">6</td><td width="5%" align="right">7</td><td width="5%" align="right">8</td><td width="5%" align="right">9</td><td width="5%" align="right">R</td><td width="5%" align="right">H</td><td width="5%" align="right">E</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Los Angeles Angels ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td class="active" align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tampa Bay Rays (1-3)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">X</td><td class="active" align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="13" align="center">W: Jeff Niemann L: Scott Kazmir S: Kyle Farnsworth</td></tr></tbody></table>

LAA -- Walks Drawn: 3 -- K's Received: 6 -- Balls hit Foul: 21
TBR -- Walks Drawn: 1 -- K's Received: 10 -- Balls hit Foul: 27

Worth noting that even though I got the lead early and was throwing a no-hitter, the opponent drew more walks than me AND their pitcher had more K's (10) than I did (6).

[coreyhartsdaughter]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

I forgot to mention over in my thread - I turned API OFF. Even though I would only use the suggestions 50% of the time, it definitely makes pitching to the CPU much more challenging.

[DJ]

Re: HOF Sliders/Statistics Disscussion

Control is far less sensitive than consistency DJ.

Drop consistency to 3 and change nothing else. It's borderline too hard to hit your upstroke. I LOVE 4, but find 3 to give me that extra challenge. Start with 4.

Consistency seems to directly impact the meter sensitivity, which is precisely the reason none of us were issuing walks on default. If you like your current slider set, and are ONLY bothered by the lack of walks, consistency is your answer. I feel very comfortable saying this now. I've tested it enough to not have to beat around the bush, so to speak.

I mainly hope they just patch it so I can leave everything at 5. Please, post your concerns in the "attn...feedback" thread before it's too late. They very well might address this in the upcoming patch if enough people speak out. (I linked it on the previous page).

Yeah, I'm good with everything aside from issuing walks. I'll start at 4 with Consistency and see how it goes and if I'll need to drop it to 3.

I lost my last game in my Mets franchise 2-1 to the Marlins. Annibal Sanchez had a no-hitter into the 7th inning. Dickey carried a no-no into the 5th but served up a solo shot to Hanley Ramirez. I went 7 innings with Dickey and took the loss, despite only giving up 4 hits.

I was worried that All-Star hitting was too easy as I scored 11 runs in my prior game. Obviously, that's not the case.