Classic Pitching Questions and Discussion

[Geronimo22]

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Make it stop!!!

LOL! Sorry guys. It's too wild.

It's a shame. There are moments of greatness. But, SCEA's unwillingness to actually explain this interface (let alone provide us a tutorial video) is frustrating to say the least.

Do you guys aim the ballmarker trying to grab a lot of the plate? Is it even possible to pitch to a corner?

What happened to make you say it's too wild?

IMO it really factors in if the pitcher has good stuff that day or he doesn't. In that way, it's like real life. If he has good stuff, I'll aim to the corners. If he doesn't I aim more to the middle and hope not to get rocked. In inning 1, you will know if your pitcher has good stuff. Cold and hot streaks probably play a factor into having good stuff or not too.

[Heroesandvillains]

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What happened to make you say it's too wild?

IMO it really factors in if the pitcher has good stuff that day or he doesn't. In that way, it's like real life. If he has good stuff, I'll aim to the corners. If he doesn't I aim more to the middle and hope not to get rocked. In inning 1, you will know if your pitcher has good stuff. Cold and hot streaks probably play a factor into having good stuff or not too.

What happened was 55% strikes.

Every time.

An MLB pitcher cannot succeed at that ratio, because of walks (baserunners) and in this game, fastball confidence.

I'm loving the settings so far. But, when I really need a strike or to get ahead, minimal effort is no more strike friendly than maximum effort.

I always thought that a light tap was supposed to be more accurate. I'm beginning to believe that this isn't the case, and that I'm almost doing something "wrong."

Kind of like there is supposed to be two vibrations (one indicating minimal effort, and one...the one we have now....indicating max effort).

SCEA seems to keep how to properly use this interface a secret. Or, I guess I mean, I wouldn't be nearly as frustrated if I knew for certain that this was the nature of the interface and not user error.

[Geronimo22]

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What happened was 55% strikes.

Every time.

An MLB pitcher cannot succeed at that ratio, because of walks (baserunners) and in this game, fastball confidence.

I'm loving the settings so far. But, when I really need a strike or to get ahead, minimal effort is no more strike friendly than maximum effort.

I always thought that a light tap was supposed to be more accurate. I'm beginning to believe that this isn't the case, and that I'm almost doing something "wrong."

Kind of like there is supposed to be two vibrations (one indicating minimal effort, and one...the one we have now....indicating max effort).

SCEA seems to keep how to properly use this interface a secret. Or, I guess I mean, I wouldn't be nearly as frustrated if I knew for certain that this was the nature of the interface and not user error.

Hero I used your advice and have been using less effort (more taps) and my accuracy has gone up.

[ILiveForThis]

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In my multiple games played (not all with my two teams), the same thing happens. Its either 55% strikes or 79% strikes and a 12-2 blowout.
You can't win with this interface, you just can't.

[Heroesandvillains]

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In my multiple games played (not all with my two teams), the same thing happens. Its either 55% strikes or 79% strikes and a 12-2 blowout.
You can't win with this interface, you just can't.

LOL!

But we all have to agree, there are moments where it "feels" right.

I just can't wrap my head around what changes. All of a sudden, it's like something happens and I can throw 6 balls dead read. Only to walk the number 8 hitter.

I don't want to quit on it. I've had great performances...or at least 4 inning stretches.

My only concern is BB. Not H/9, or losing. I'd say I'd bump the consistency another click...like another OS member recommended (I think he plays default HOF, with control 6 and consistency 'at least 7 or 8'). I just hate to have to place all these sliders in my favor, just to avoid those two inning walk-fests. Because, that's really all it is. 2 innings where I'll walk 3 or 4 (on top of my realistic 1 or 2 in the other innings), and then the flood gates will open.

[ILiveForThis]

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Here's a typical inning for me..

Walk
Walk
Wild Pitch
Single (drives in 2)
Walk
Double (drives in 2)
K
F9
HR (drives in 2)
K

That's how the GOOD innings go, nowadays.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Here's a typical inning for me..

Walk
Walk
Wild Pitch
Single (drives in 2)
Walk
Double (drives in 2)
K
F9
HR (drives in 2)
K

That's how the GOOD innings go, nowadays.

Oh man!!! That's hilarious! LOL!

Are we putting this test to bed, or do we have some other tricks up our sleeves, or what?

Have either of you pitched on Default AS using Classic?

It's much...MUCH...more accurate. Even at all 5's.

My main issue is with the LACK of CPU singles and abundance of CPU dingers on that level. It's like everything with solid contact is hit straight up.

Maybe we can drop down a level and compare?

[Geronimo22]

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Hero, when my pitcher got "cold" and started missing, throwing more to the middle of the zone and releasing early got him to throw strikes. Now sometimes he got rocked up but at least he wasn't walking batters.

My walks have mostly come from not getting strikes called on pitches on the black or from crappy relievers.

I wouldn't bump anything up until we get to the 20 game mark and have some tangible stats to prove BB's are off. That's just my opinion.

[Geronimo22]

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Oh man!!! That's hilarious! LOL!

Are we putting this test to bed, or do we have some other tricks up our sleeves, or what?

Have either of you pitched on Default AS using Classic?

It's much...MUCH...more accurate. Even at all 5's.

My main issue is with the LACK of CPU singles and abundance of CPU dingers on that level. It's like everything with solid contact is hit straight up.

Maybe we can drop down a level and compare?

Wait first, what are both of your guys stats?

[Heroesandvillains]

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Hero, when my pitcher got "cold" and started missing, throwing more to the middle of the zone and releasing early got him to throw strikes. Now sometimes he got rocked up but at least he wasn't walking batters.

My walks have mostly come from not getting strikes called on pitches on the black or from crappy relievers.

I wouldn't bump anything up until we get to the 20 game mark and have some tangible stats to prove BB's are off. That's just my opinion.

Great point on the umps squeezing us. My feelings precisely!!

I don't really have any stats. Generally, I'm not this OCD. Believe me. But I replayed the Josh Johnson start against NYM 5 times, and not ONCE was I able to dominate. Mainly because of BB.

Sure, he gets his 7 K's, but he also always walks 4 or 5. That's AJ Burnett. Not Josh Johnson.

Especially against the Mets! Murder's Row they are not. Bad News Bears...maybe.

I'm always the guy that stresses testing. I played around 50 games testing Analog, but it was unfortunately too accurate. I needed to drop consistency in order to throw BB on HOF, but that gutted my K/9 ratio.

I've played 20 games with Meter on HOF, but the CPU becomes a clairvoyant of the strikezone.

With Classic, for some reason, on both AS and HOF, the CPU finally begins to act like real hitters. They swing and miss, and can be fooled to the point of embarassment. Unfortunately, I don't think I actually know how to properly use the interface! LOL! Besides, if I went back down to AS Classic, I'd probably have to drop consistency a click because the CPU loses the 'killer instinct.'

Man. It's such a shame. My hitting sliders are money. I guess I just can't find a happy medium pitching-wise this year.

[Geronimo22]

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Hero, did you seriously restart your first game 5 times? Did I read that wrong? LOL

What about the rest of your pitching staff? What happened in their games? Maybe Josh is a slow starter? I don't know?

It seems like you gave the other pitching systems a decent amount of time to test... How many games have you given classic?

[ILiveForThis]

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#1 (Peavy) v. Indians | L, 0-8
9 IP, 8 R, 8 ER, 17 H, 2 2B, 2 HR, 1 BB, 9 SO. 35 fouls, 12 swings-and-misses, 79% strikes.
#1 (Latos) v. Cardinals | W, 8-5
9 IP, 5 R, 4 ER, 9 H, 4 2B, 0 HR, 1 BB, 5 SO. 26 fouls, 14 swings-and-misses, 68% strikes.

My two games stats. I would not have a problem dropping to All-Star OR jacking up our consistency.
The majority of my swings-and-misses come later in the game, with relievers.
In my CWS game, Chris Sale had 4 K's in 2 IP. Tons of swings-and-misses. With Peavy, notttt soooo muchhhhh.

[Geronimo22]

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#1 (Peavy) v. Indians | L, 0-8
9 IP, 8 R, 8 ER, 17 H, 2 2B, 2 HR, 1 BB, 9 SO. 35 fouls, 12 swings-and-misses, 79% strikes.
#1 (Latos) v. Cardinals | W, 8-5
9 IP, 5 R, 4 ER, 9 H, 4 2B, 0 HR, 1 BB, 5 SO. 26 fouls, 14 swings-and-misses, 68% strikes.

My two games stats. I would not have a problem dropping to All-Star OR jacking up our consistency.
The majority of my swings-and-misses come later in the game, with relievers.
In my CWS game, Chris Sale had 4 K's in 2 IP. Tons of swings-and-misses. With Peavy, notttt soooo muchhhhh.

Why would you want to drop down. You're doing fine! The only thing that look off in your stats is that you're strike % is too high! LOL That's opposite of the problem that Hero is having!

Also what happened to the 20 game mark?!?

Geez you guys are killing me! LOL

[Heroesandvillains]

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Hero, did you seriously restart your first game 5 times? Did I read that wrong? LOL

What about the rest of your pitching staff? What happened in their games? Maybe Josh is a slow starter? I don't know?

It seems like you gave the other pitching systems a decent amount of time to test... How many games have you given classic?

No man. I pitched with Josh Johnson 5 times.

And a game with Burnett. Yikes!!!

Let me elaborate on why this test is causing me to act unusually:

The other two interfaces remind me of watching a real baseball game. Good games, bad games. It truly took a decent sample size for me to watch the numbers average out.

With Classic on HOF...my goodness! The benefits of this interface FAR outweigh the negatives, and simply FEELS more realistic than the other interfaces...Except, aces are too combustable on HOF right now...which is what is detering me from continuing with our testing as it stands.

Have you ever tried Classic on AS? I'm wondering if you saw the same things i did.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Why would you want to drop down. You're doing fine! The only thing that look off in your stats is that you're strike % is too high! LOL That's opposite of the problem that Hero is having!

Also what happened to the 20 game mark?!?

Geez you guys are killing me! LOL

I know. I know.

Again, this is really out of character for me too. I'd be willing to carry on with this if either of you could convince me that there was something I could do about the BB.

Your post earlier, Geronimo, was a great one.

Do you have any more stats?