Classic Pitching Questions and Discussion

[northface28]

Re: Classic Pitching Questions and Discussion

Here's my sliders, HOF Timing Only, AS Classic Pitching, Auto Field, Manual Button Throwing

Human Contact 5
Human Power 4
Human Timing 5
Human Fouls 5
Human Solid Hits 5
Human Control 5
Human Consistency 6

CPU Contact 5
CPU Power 4
CPU Timing 5
CPU Fouls 5
CPU Solid Hits
CPU Control 5
CPU Consistency 4
Strike Frequency 3

Global Fielding Errors 10
Global Throwing Errors 7
Global Fielder Run Speed 4
Global Fielder Arm Strength 4
Global Stolen Base Frequency 8
Global Wind 5

Everything else is Default.

I could foresee dropping run speed another click, and compensating with raising reaction...the CPU and myself are at around 1.6-1.7 doubles per...but my brother is using these sliders and his numbers are perfect...so I'm in no rush.

HR's are slightly high for me, but perfect for him too.

BB are a touch high on both sides (4.2 me, 4.4 CPU)...but batting averages are dead on. I mean, dead on. If the BB bother you (which they don't me, because it's actually a very realistic number for NYY), raise CPU consistency back to Default...and worst case, raise it for you as well.

I'm loving this currently. So again, I'm not making any changes at the moment. Just thinking out loud.

Im going to try these on AS timing hitting. HOF is just too daunting for me, I cant hit on AS. Tried the Zone hitting, not moving the stick, with Cpu strike frequency @ 1. Heres the problem, the cpu throws perfect, and I mean perfect strikes on the black. With control & consistency @ 5/6 respectively. This formula is flawed, idk how, but it is. The 6 consistency is the problem, so when the cpu needs to throw a strike, its with deadly pin point accuracy. This is TNK/Psychos slider set im referring to.

Thoughts? Im going to try your slider set. If this fails, I too may be done with the game.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Im going to try these on AS timing hitting. HOF is just too daunting for me, I cant hit on AS. Tried the Zone hitting, not moving the stick, with Cpu strike frequency @ 1. Heres the problem, the cpu throws perfect, and I mean perfect strikes on the black. With control & consistency @ 5/6 respectively. This formula is flawed, idk how, but it is. The 6 consistency is the problem, so when the cpu needs to throw a strike, its with deadly pin point accuracy. This is TNK/Psychos slider set im referring to.

Thoughts? Im going to try your slider set. If this fails, I too may be done with the game.

Thoughts? Contact swing is your friend. I use it in most 2 strike counts...and even with little to no power threats, and usually with RISP (unless I have a hunch as to what is coming).

You may want to drop run speed and raise reaction a click (if 2B's are low).

If you're walking too much, raise cpu consistency.

Make sure you find a camera view and pitch speed that allows you to pick up pitches...but one where you're late enough on 94+ when looking offspeed. I like wide offset, myself. Though, it makes you vulnerable to the inside slider...

I'm here to help man. DON'T quit.

No slider set is one size fits all. We all have different abilities.

Oh, and if HR's are too high on both sides, you could drop power a click also...

Anytime, I can help walk you through it. Just make sure to keep some basic stats that I can reference.

[northface28]

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Thoughts? Contact swing is your friend. I use it in most 2 strike counts...and even with little to no power threats, and usually with RISP (unless I have a hunch as to what is coming).

You may want to drop run speed and raise reaction a click (if 2B's are low).

If you're walking too much, raise cpu consistency.

Make sure you find a camera view and pitch speed that allows you to pick up pitches...but one where you're late enough on 94+ when looking offspeed. I like wide offset, myself. Though, it makes you vulnerable to the inside slider...

I'm here to help man. DON'T quit.

No slider set is one size fits all. We all have different abilities.

Oh, and if HR's are too high on both sides, you could drop power a click also...

Anytime, I can help walk you through it. Just make sure to keep some basic stats that I can reference.

Thanks. Next time im on my system, ill gather my stats. Off the top of my head, im batting .240 as a team. Good for 29th in league. Im leading the majors in HRs, Quality starts, saves, and of course the amount of times ive been struck out. Ill report back in full detail tomorrow.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Thanks. Next time im on my system, ill gather my stats. Off the top of my head, im batting .240 as a team. Good for 29th in league. Im leading the majors in HRs, Quality starts, saves, and of course the amount of times ive been struck out. Ill report back in full detail tomorrow.

If you wanna share, cool.

But I mainly meant from these sliders, after you get a handful of games in.

By the way, I forgot that I have Human Fouls at 6.

[northface28]

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Ok, ill plug these in and see what I get.

[northface28]

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2 games, 2 losses. 8-4 to Texas and 2-0 to Toronto. I think I may lower wind to 3 or 4. At the Rogers Centre there was 18 mph wind blowing out to center. Little strong to me. After using TNK/Psycho sliders with cpu Solid hits @ 3 it was a breeze. With yours, the cpu SH @ 5, they crush mistakes, @ 3 im sure these wouldve have been outs.

[Heroesandvillains]

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2 games, 2 losses. 8-4 to Texas and 2-0 to Toronto. I think I may lower wind to 3 or 4. At the Rogers Centre there was 18 mph wind blowing out to center. Little strong to me. After using TNK/Psycho sliders with cpu Solid hits @ 3 it was a breeze. With yours, the cpu SH @ 5, they crush mistakes, @ 3 im sure these wouldve have been outs.

Don't let the Roger's Center fool you. Since the patch, the wind has been remarkably toned down. Balls FLY out of there (you should see my box scores! LOL!). Trust me, you WILL NOT see the wind impact balls like that in most other parks. It's not the wind...it's the stadium.

Now, mistakes on the other hand.... The CPU will crush you. With that, you make a great point, and eventually will need to reflect on your ability to pitch. I love the challenge.

Sabathia, through 5 starts, has an ERA near 2.20, and is 4-0 with me.

Nova has been garbage (ERA over 7.00), and Burnett's has been both brilliant and terrible (ERA over 4.40, but a ton of K's and BB allowed).

How's the Classic interface treating you? Pretty stressful, eh? It forces you to groove pitches at times, but if your confidence is high...watch out!

Seriously, don't freak over the wind. Since the patch, I almost feel that even at Default, the wind's impact is hardly even noticable...like SCEA almost turned it off entirely. Play in a few more parks before you commit to lowering it.

[northface28]

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Ive been using Classic even with the other sliders. Against Texas, Peavy gave 12 hits, 8 ER, 2 BB and 5 K's in 6 innings. 5 ER and 8 hits in the 1st inning mind you. In the other slider set, youre almost rewarded for pitching to contact. Not with this set, SH @ 5 makes an enormous diff. I "felt"like I was pitching against the real Rangers. They scalded anything over the plate, as well they should.

So far, so good. I have 3 more games with Toronto, so we will see how it shakes out. Also, with the higher strike freq, I think the cpu pitching is more organic.

[northface28]

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Well, beat the Jays 6-0 & lost 4-2. Ended up losing series 3-1. I batted .198 as team for the series. Not having Alexei Ramiez and Gordon Beckham is killing me. Brent Lillibridge is terrible and Vizquel is ok, but just not a threat. Im hitting the ball, but its usually right to a guy. I may lower pitch speed one and raise human timing one.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Well, beat the Jays 6-0 & lost 4-2. Ended up losing series 3-1. I batted .198 as team for the series. Not having Alexei Ramiez and Gordon Beckham is killing me. Brent Lillibridge is terrible and Vizquel is ok, but just not a threat. Im hitting the ball, but its usually right to a guy. I may lower pitch speed one and raise human timing one.

Whoa! I haven't even thrown a shutout yet. Nice!

Are you using this exact set, just with AS hitting? If so, for what it's worth, I have pitch speed at 3 and hit from the wide offset view. Even then, sometimes 3 still feels too fast, but I just try to man it out. I have enough good games to know, if I'm on, I can win.

I've raised Timing before and it does help alot. If you do, and notice too many short/long innings, you MAY need to raise/lower the fouls slider to compensate.

[northface28]

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Whoa! I haven't even thrown a shutout yet. Nice!

Are you using this exact set, just with AS hitting? If so, for what it's worth, I have pitch speed at 3 and hit from the wide offset view. Even then, sometimes 3 still feels too fast, but I just try to man it out. I have enough good games to know, if I'm on, I can win.

I've raised Timing before and it does help alot. If you do, and notice too many short/long innings, you MAY need to raise/lower the fouls slider to compensate.

Yeah, Edwin Jackson was dealing. Complete game shutout, 2 BB and 8 Ks. Toronto has some injuries and mustve sat some marquee players due to fatigue.

Well, im using the set you posted, except I dont have errors at 10. You stated everything else was default, so I had pitch speed @ 5. Whoa!!! I faced Morrow of Toronto......struck out 15 times. Maybe ill go down to 3 in pitch speed.

Im using Catcher 9 now, I like it. So if I raise Timing to 6, I should lower foul frequency? Im one game up on Det with a series with Boston up next.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Yeah, Edwin Jackson was dealing. Complete game shutout, 2 BB and 8 Ks. Toronto has some injuries and mustve sat some marquee players due to fatigue.

Well, im using the set you posted, except I dont have errors at 10. You stated everything else was default, so I had pitch speed @ 5. Whoa!!! I faced Morrow of Toronto......struck out 15 times. Maybe ill go down to 3 in pitch speed.

Im using Catcher 9 now, I like it. So if I raise Timing to 6, I should lower foul frequency? Im one game up on Det with a series with Boston up next.

I have fielding errors at 10. Throw errors at 7. You have throw errors at 10?

Keep in mind, I have an HD TV with some minor lag, so while I use a pitch speed of 3, my brother uses the same set on SD and sets his to 4.

Fouls really depend on your ability, which is why I left it so open for you. When I raised Timing, my misses dropped a ton, and the CPU pitchers weren't throwing enough pitches. This is why I went back to Timing 5. I guess, if I wanted to, I could have just dropped fouls instead. What I'm say is; use your best judgement on that. 22-30 or so fouls per is a decent gauge. Any less over a decent sample size, raise fouls; any more, lower fouls.

[northface28]

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Ok, I dont get the whole HD tv thing. I have a Samsung HDTV, I watch cable in HD etc. But my gaming isnt in HD? I set my TV to game mode, now its very grainy. So idk whats up there.

Maybe ill leave timing at 5 & just lower pitch speed to 3. Im often very/too early or late. I jave fielding errors @ 7 not 10. Should I take it 10?

[Heroesandvillains]

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Ok, I dont get the whole HD tv thing. I have a Samsung HDTV, I watch cable in HD etc. But my gaming isnt in HD? I set my TV to game mode, now its very grainy. So idk whats up there.

Maybe ill leave timing at 5 & just lower pitch speed to 3. Im often very/too early or late. I jave fielding errors @ 7 not 10. Should I take it 10?

Do you have an HDMI cable for your PS3?

I needed to go fielding errors 10, throwing errors 7 in order to get an appropriate amount of total errors. But I use auto field, and button throwing. So, basically, if your overall errors look good, you should probably leave it alone.

Again, I have a Vizio with some lag. So, 3 on my TV feels like 4 on my brother's. The trick is finding a speed where you're still late on good heat when looking offspeed. You'll know what's TOO low, because you'll get the 'comfortable' feeling for several games. A few games is okay, but if that dominance lingers, you know it's not fast enough. 3 or 4 should work.

Good idea, start with pitch speed before you mess with timing.

[northface28]

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No, I dont have an HDMI cable. Are they pricey?

I use assisted (manual) fielding and buttons to throw. So raising it to 10 may not be on order. Ill prob start at 3 for pitch speed and go up from there.

Thanks for all your help.