Classic Pitching Questions and Discussion

[abcabc]

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[ksig24]

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Heroes I tried what you said and have been using classic pitching. Do you have an explanation of when to release pitches for certain velocity and location?

Thanks

[Heroesandvillains]

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Ksig,

Throughout the 7 pages here, I've explained my own personal techniques a little bit. I'll try to bullet point now, but you may want to read through this thread...some others have post their techniques too.

1. Turn vibration on. If you don't have a dual shock controller, I'd highly recommend one.

2. I generally follow the API. I'd say 70/30. This forces me to work in all directions, and not just rely on pitches down in the zone.

3. I almost always pitch to a slight vibration (as opposed to a heavy vibration off the plate or on the black). This keeps BB down to a realistic clip, and forces the ratings to dictate a ball, paint, or a meatball.

4. When behind, I'll sometimes pitch to no vibration, placing me at the mercy of my pitcher's confidence, pitch confidence, and ratings. Classic pitching can be so wild, that even leaving the ball marker dead center can end up as a pitch WAY off the plate. I don't generally ever leave the ball marker dead center, but I probably have like a total of 5 times; some of those at bats STILL ended up as walks.

5. I rarely go beyond the X button/wind up to pitch/max effort vibration point. If I'm throwing back to back changeups, let's say, one will be soft (light tap) and the next one might be a tad harder (longer hold). This ball will drop more than the light tap, so keep this in mind.

6. Classic pitching can be a mini-game with the confidence and pitch confidence meters. When I don't use the API, and I need an out, I have to rely on the pitches that are working in order to succeed. Think of how the CPU pitches to you. If your 4-Seamer is garbage, you may need to go with the 2-Seamer for awhile.

7. Mound visits and warming up relievers are paramount. Once your confidence is gone, it's next to impossible to not get smacked around. Unlike the other interfaces, Classic pitching forces you to use baseball strategy in order to get victories (not that the others don't, but getting closer to the tv and making sure your meter timing is perfect is obviously irrelevant with the Classic interface).

[northface28]

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Last 3 games:

L 8-4 against Tigers
W 6-1 against Tigers
W 3-2 against Mariners

Rockin & Rollin now. Sliders play great.

[Heroesandvillains]

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Here's my sliders Ksig, HOF Timing Only hitting, AS Classic pitching

Anything not noted is on Default

Human Contact 5
Human Power 4
Human Timing 5
Human Fouls 6
Human Solid Hits 5
Human Control 5
Human Consistency 6

CPU Contact 5
CPU Power 4
CPU Timing 5
CPU Fouls 5
CPU Solid Hits
CPU Control 5
CPU Consistency 5
Strike Frequency 3

Pitch Speed 3 (4 on SD TV, 3 on my Vizio with minor lag)
Fielding errors 10
Throwing errors 7
Run Speed 4 (thinking of 3, not sold on it yet)
Arm Strength 4
Stolen base frequency 8

[DJ]

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Here's my sliders Ksig, HOF Timing Only hitting, AS Classic pitching

Anything not noted is on Default

Human Contact 5
Human Power 4
Human Timing 5
Human Fouls 6
Human Solid Hits 5
Human Control 5
Human Consistency 6

CPU Contact 5
CPU Power 4
CPU Timing 5
CPU Fouls 5
CPU Solid Hits
CPU Control 5
CPU Consistency 5
Strike Frequency 3

Pitch Speed 3 (4 on SD TV, 3 on my Vizio with minor lag)
Fielding errors 10
Throwing errors 7
Run Speed 4 (thinking of 3, not sold on it yet)
Arm Strength 4
Stolen base frequency 8

H&V, you still using these sliders and this setup? I've been getting absolutely killed on HOF/Analog pitching and have been contemplating switching to Classic before things get really out of hand.

[Heroesandvillains]

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H&V, you still using these sliders and this setup? I've been getting absolutely killed on HOF/Analog pitching and have been contemplating switching to Classic before things get really out of hand.

Yes.

I do have run speed at 3 currently, with reaction still at 5. I've only played maybe 5-10 games this way, but I really like it for now. I'll update here or PM you if I decide on any further changes...but honestly, I think I'm pretty set.

[DJ]

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Yes.

I do have run speed at 3 currently, with reaction still at 5. I've only played maybe 5-10 games this way, but I really like it for now. I'll update here or PM you if I decide on any further changes...but honestly, I think I'm pretty set.

Sounds good. With my ERA hovering around 7, I think it's time to make the move now, since I'm only 7 games into my Mets franchise (2-5 record). Analog was fun and I was doing fine prior to the last patch but after that dropped, it's really tough to shut down the CPU, at least with default sliders. I'd rather just drop the difficulty or change the interface than have to change a whole bunch of sliders.

[Infinite202]

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Does anybody have any general tips for avoiding walks? I'm giving up way too many on All-Star pitching, and I try to throw the pitch around the middle of the plate when in a hitter's count (and I can afford to), but sometimes this even results in a walk.

[northface28]

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Does anybody have any general tips for avoiding walks? I'm giving up way too many on All-Star pitching, and I try to throw the pitch around the middle of the plate when in a hitter's count (and I can afford to), but sometimes this even results in a walk.

Who are you pitching with? What are their BB/9 ratings?

[Infinite202]

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Who are you pitching with? What are their BB/9 ratings?

The Yankees rotation: Sabathia (shouldn't have as many as he does, but not terrible), Burnett (understandable), Hughes (I have the most with him by far), Nova (also understandable), Garcia (the only one that's doing ok in this regard).

[Neolithic]

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I have been toying with the idea of trying Meter pitching, see if there is a big difference in missing location. I have it on Rookie pitching with User control/consistancy at 10, and I still can throw 4 4-seamers right down the middle, and walk a guy :/

Seems to not make much differnce if I'm just using a tap or holding for the max effort vibration.

But I do really enjoy classic so I can watch the windups and pitches on their way to the plate instead of a meter.

[DJ]

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I like Classic because I can walk guys. Analog and Meter, it's really tough to walk the CPU, imo.

I am now walking 1-5 batters a game with Classic and my strike % is around 60-65%; on Analog I was around 70-75%.

[northface28]

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The Yankees rotation: Sabathia (shouldn't have as many as he does, but not terrible), Burnett (understandable), Hughes (I have the most with him by far), Nova (also understandable), Garcia (the only one that's doing ok in this regard).

Are you holding X down until it vibrates? If so, stop, you get more oommpph, but more wildness, the less you hold it down, the better the accuracy. But sometimes, your guy dont have it, especially if their confidence is low overall or in a particular pitch.

[Infinite202]

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Are you holding X down until it vibrates? If so, stop, you get more oommpph, but more wildness, the less you hold it down, the better the accuracy. But sometimes, your guy dont have it, especially if their confidence is low overall or in a particular pitch.

Right, I only hold it until I feel the vibration if the pitcher has at least a good amount of confidence in that pitch. Otherwise, if he doesn't or if I'm in a count where I'm at risk of walking them (2-0, 3-1) I never do. I still get too many walks this way though.

Just out of curiosity, what do you guys do when it's a 3-2 count? Do you throw it over the plate for the most part? Maybe this is why I have too many walks. I never give in on a 3-2 count, but I'm not sure if I should.