Armor & Sword’s MLB The Show 22 Classic/Directional/Clean Screen Simulation Sliders

[Burgess]

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I have a fairly strong opinion that trying to “manipulate” AI bullpen usage is futile.

Yeah, maybe some tweaking can be done, but not enough to see enough of a difference and overcome the hard code put in place by the devs.

Does it suck, yup…sure does. Just have to live with it and not be OCD about sim stats or AI BP usage…..believe me, I way way to OCD with this game, so I am really just talking to myself.

And yes…..SU #2 slot has been “broken” for years.

Dowie

Thanks for your reply

“Broken” in what way? As in the pitcher in that spot never gets used?

My first game “back” to 13 pitchers went well today. I was up 3-1 and cpu pulled their starter after 6.1 innings. He brought in their top MR (MR slot 1) and he pitched the next 1.1 innings - he got pulled after giving up a 3-run homer. With the score 6-1 with 2 outs in the 7th, he brought in his 2nd highest rated MR (MR slot 2) to finish the game.

Like it has been said, we likely can’t fix the cpu bullpen logic. But I do prefer 13 pitchers so that is what I’m going to go with - using Armour’s suggestion of filling the LR #1 spot with a reliever with stamina less than 40.

[bryanm1982]

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Thanks for your reply

“Broken” in what way? As in the pitcher in that spot never gets used?

My first game “back” to 13 pitchers went well today. I was up 3-1 and cpu pulled their starter after 6.1 innings. He brought in their top MR (MR slot 1) and he pitched the next 1.1 innings - he got pulled after giving up a 3-run homer. With the score 6-1 with 2 outs in the 7th, he brought in his 2nd highest rated MR (MR slot 2) to finish the game.

Like it has been said, we likely can’t fix the cpu bullpen logic. But I do prefer 13 pitchers so that is what I’m going to go with - using Armour’s suggestion of filling the LR #1 spot with a reliever with stamina less than 40.

We have been using the setup of 13 pitchers with 2 relievers under 40 stamina in the LR1 and 2 spots for the whole year and it works out really good. Not perfect but probably the best we can get. I usually put the lowest rated guys in the LR1 and LR2 spots. I put their best non-closer in the SU1 spot. Everybody gets used this way. I put the 6th starter in the MR4 spot.

[ILLICIT206]

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You can have 13 pitchers. The cpu will just bring up the next highest rated. However they will still for the most part just use the same 3 relievers for the most part.

I finally got tired of managing all 30 teams bullpens. I decided, it is what it is. They will use SP as relievers to get the innings they need for a season. Someone gets injured they call up a pitcher regardless of need. So, Im just enjoying my games and the cpu can run how it wants.

I’ve done 30 team control in the past and it’s just too much for me. I just control my team and let the CPU do what they do. It’s never gonna mirror real life so the franchise is it’s own little world.

[Burgess]

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We have been using the setup of 13 pitchers with 2 relievers under 40 stamina in the LR1 and 2 spots for the whole year and it works out really good. Not perfect but probably the best we can get. I usually put the lowest rated guys in the LR1 and LR2 spots. I put their best non-closer in the SU1 spot. Everybody gets used this way. I put the 6th starter in the MR4 spot.

Thanks for this. I tried your approach in my last game. I was up 6-1 in the 3rd inning and they pulled their starter. I would have thought they would have brought in their reliever with the highest stamina (MR 4) to eat some innings, but they brought in LRP 1 for an inning. Then they brought in LRP 2, who pitched 3 in innings (had stamina 30) and the MRP 1 and then MRP 2 who each pitched an inning.

But like you said, it isn’t perfect and it can’t be fixed. The gameplay is great and I just have to enjoy it as opposed to trying to fix the cpu bullpen issues.

Thanks again

[bryanm1982]

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Thanks for this. I tried your approach in my last game. I was up 6-1 in the 3rd inning and they pulled their starter. I would have thought they would have brought in their reliever with the highest stamina (MR 4) to eat some innings, but they brought in LRP 1 for an inning. Then they brought in LRP 2, who pitched 3 in innings (had stamina 30) and the MRP 1 and then MRP 2 who each pitched an inning.

But like you said, it isn’t perfect and it can’t be fixed. The gameplay is great and I just have to enjoy it as opposed to trying to fix the cpu bullpen issues.

Thanks again

Yeah, they seem to not know when to use their long man in the right situations. But I would say I don’t see an RP going 3 innings that much. 2 is about the max usually.

The positive of this set up is if they bring in a RP in a close game in the 5th or 6th inning they bring in true reliever and not always the 6th starter. Or if they are losing they use their MRP.

[Burgess]

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Hi Armour, have you considered lowering power for both human and cpu to 4?

I’m on HOF, using v2, with the exception of having human contact at 6 and pitch speeds at 7/7

Here are the results of my first 3 games of my Phillies franchise

Phillies (ranked 8th) at Astros (ranked 3rd)

Game 1 - Phillies 6 Astros 1

Phillies get 7 hits including a triple and 3 homers
Astros get 4 hits including a double and a homer

Game 2 - Phillies 7 Astros 6

Phillies get 9 hits including a double and 2 homers
Astros get 11 hits including 3 doubles and 4 homers. They hit 3 homers and scored 5 runs in the 9th

Game 3 - Phillies 5 Astros 0

Phillies get 10 hits including 2 doubles, a triple and 3 homers

Astros get 2 hits, both singles

I see a decent amount of hit variety with human contact at 6, but certainly a large majority of runs are scored on the long ball (16 of 26 hits have been for extra bases).

So I’m thinking of lowering power to 4 for both and possibly increasing human contact to 7 and cpu contact to 6

Are you experiencing what I am?

Also a bit concerned that I haven’t really been challenged by a strong Astros team, except when they exploded for 5 runs in the 9th in game 2. I’m certainly no expert in this game, so don’t think I should be winning so easily. Phillies are a solid team, so maybe they are just starting the season on fire

Im interested in your thoughts

Thanks

[Ren The Conqueror]

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Hi Armour, have you considered lowering power for both human and cpu to 4?

I’m on HOF, using v2, with the exception of having human contact at 6 and pitch speeds at 7/7

Here are the results of my first 3 games of my Phillies franchise

Phillies (ranked 8th) at Astros (ranked 3rd)

Game 1 - Phillies 6 Astros 1

Phillies get 7 hits including a triple and 3 homers
Astros get 4 hits including a double and a homer

Game 2 - Phillies 7 Astros 6

Phillies get 9 hits including a double and 2 homers
Astros get 11 hits including 3 doubles and 4 homers. They hit 3 homers and scored 5 runs in the 9th

Game 3 - Phillies 5 Astros 0

Phillies get 10 hits including 2 doubles, a triple and 3 homers

Astros get 2 hits, both singles

I see a decent amount of hit variety with human contact at 6, but certainly a large majority of runs are scored on the long ball (16 of 26 hits have been for extra bases).

So I’m thinking of lowering power to 4 for both and possibly increasing human contact to 7 and cpu contact to 6

Are you experiencing what I am?

Also a bit concerned that I haven’t really been challenged by a strong Astros team, except when they exploded for 5 runs in the 9th in game 2. I’m certainly no expert in this game, so don’t think I should be winning so easily. Phillies are a solid team, so maybe they are just starting the season on fire

Im interested in your thoughts

Thanks

Burgess, I'll share my thoughts:

You do you. If you want something more or less in an area, tinker a bit. But be forewarned, this is not as easy of a game to adjust as it has been in the past.

I am running the exact OP but with the following changes: HUM stamina @ 7 for starters and 3 for relievers / Pitch Speeds at 8 (no, that is not at a bigger stick comment - to me, the pitch speeds are all about the animation and aesthetic... faster does not mean harder).

I finally stopped tinkering, and embraced the beauty of this game along with Armor's V2 set (with my aforementioned adjustments). It has been a delight. I was about ready to toss in the towel on MLB 22. I'm glad that I did not.

The bottom line: Take any set on OS, and use it as a base. Armor did the work for us here, but it is up to us for season-to-taste.

[forme95]

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:O I actually had a player tag up from first on a fly ball and go to second. I've never seen the cpu do that. It wasn't even a situation he had to. It was a fly ball to RF of Progressive. The catch animation of catching the ball and rolling off the first base line wall.

[Burgess]

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Burgess, I'll share my thoughts:

You do you. If you want something more or less in an area, tinker a bit. But be forewarned, this is not as easy of a game to adjust as it has been in the past.

I am running the exact OP but with the following changes: HUM stamina @ 7 for starters and 3 for relievers / Pitch Speeds at 8 (no, that is not at a bigger stick comment - to me, the pitch speeds are all about the animation and aesthetic... faster does not mean harder).

I finally stopped tinkering, and embraced the beauty of this game along with Armor's V2 set (with my aforementioned adjustments). It has been a delight. I was about ready to toss in the towel on MLB 22. I'm glad that I did not.

The bottom line: Take any set on OS, and use it as a base. Armor did the work for us here, but it is up to us for season-to-taste.

Thanks for your reply. But I just don’t get it. Switched to my Yankees franchise and I’m up 9-1 in the 3rd inning after hitting 2 grand slams. Yes, small sample size but I’ve never dominated like this before.

Glad to hear you almost threw in the towel but stuck with it. I’ll keep playing

[IndianSummer]

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Thanks for your reply. But I just don’t get it. Switched to my Yankees franchise and I’m up 9-1 in the 3rd inning after hitting 2 grand slams. Yes, small sample size but I’ve never dominated like this before.

Glad to hear you almost threw in the towel but stuck with it. I’ll keep playing

I have had the same issue this year, I’m playing with the Orioles so I am playing a with a much weaker team than the Phillies.
I switched to Legend on pitching and hitting.
I am not in front of the game right now but I do know what the main hitting sliders are at.
Contact Hum 6 CPU 6
Power Hum 5 CPU 6
Timing Hum 6 CPU 5. Timing window is very small on Legend.
Foul Frequency Hum 5 CPU 5
Solid Hits Hum 5 CPU 5. Trying to give the CPU a bit more teeth.

I think everything else except pitch speed 7
is what A&S has
Maybe this will help.

Also, I use timing and classic. I do however let my catcher call the pitch and location. My house rule on location is as long as the ball cursor is touching the glove, gives you a little bit of direction to play with.

[Burgess]

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I have had the same issue this year, I’m playing with the Orioles so I am playing a with a much weaker team than the Phillies.
I switched to Legend on pitching and hitting.
I am not in front of the game right now but I do know what the main hitting sliders are at.
Contact Hum 6 CPU 6
Power Hum 5 CPU 5
Timing Hum 6 CPU 5. Timing window is very small on Legend.
Foul Frequency Hum 5 CPU 5
Solid Hits Hum 5 CPU 6. Trying to give the CPU a bit more teeth.

I think everything else except pitch speed 7
is what A&S has
Maybe this will help.

Also, I use timing and classic. I do however let my catcher call the pitch and location. My house rule on location is as long as the ball cursor is touching the glove, gives you a little bit of direction to play with.

Thanks for your reply.

I’m going to try to stay on HOF and run with Armour’s exact v2 sliders, with the exception of pitch speeds at 7/7. I’ve always trusted his sliders for many years, so why should anything change this year? However, human contact at 7 seems too high as I score plenty of runs with it at 6. But one thing is certain in that a large majority of my runs are scored via the homerun and I hit at least 2 homers a game with it at 6. If I remember correctly Armour said increasing it to 7 will give you more hit variety and not necessarily more homers (and doesn’t make hitting easier) So maybe I’ll score more runs in a variety of ways.

Anyway, I’m going to give it the old college try. Maybe my Phillies and Yankees are simply on a red-hot streak as they are both undefeated after their first 3 series. And I really haven’t been challenged by the cpu

But I’m starting both over tonight using v2 and stopping with my slider-itis. It’s been frustrating for me, so I want to lock these sliders in and just play.

I’ll try to hold myself accountable by posting a few scores so I can share my results.

Thanks again

[vertman]

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Armor, I know you said you were using ridins V 1.5 roster for your KC franchise. I can’t find it in the vault. I searched ridin but 12-15 versions come up. Any suggestions?


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[Burgess]

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Man I’m having a tough time. I’ve always used Armour’s exact sliders for years and never had this problem - ever

I have played several games with v2, and more with human contact at 6. Have been torn between 6 and 7. Have also played games with cpu contact at 6 and their solid hits at 4.

But I decided to just say screw it and start my Phillies franchise using v2 with pitch speeds at 7. And whatever happens, happens.

First inning Verlander gives up a 1-out single but pitches a scoreless inning. So far so good.

Bottom it the 1st Wheeler gives up a lead off double to Altuve, but gets out of the inning.

Then the top of the 2nd

- Realmuto singles
- Schwarber singles
- Bohm singles - Realmuto scores
- Didi homers
- Herrera singles, advanced on a wild pitch
- Segura singles, Herrera scores
Verlander gets pulled. Stanek enters (LRP 1 spot and 29 stamina
- groundout
- strikeout
- fly out. (Ok, maybe Verlander just didn’t have it)

Bottom of 2nd
- ground out
- strikeout
- strikeout

top of 3rd - Stanek still pitching

- Realmuto hit by pitch
- Schwarber homers
- Bohm singles
- strikeout, runner picked off, fly out

bottom of 3rd strikeout, single, pop out, fly out

Phillies 7 Astros 0

Top of 4 - Stanek STILL pitching

- Segura singles
- Hoskins walks
- Harper homers

Just can’t do it. For some reason I can’t play with v2. I have played quite a few games with v2 and my offence is just too strong.

Going back to hitting with 1.75 - human contact at 6, cpu contact at 6, but keeping cpu solid hits at 3.

Next step will likely be lowering power to 4 for both human and cpu.

[Armor and Sword]

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Armor, I know you said you were using ridins V 1.5 roster for your KC franchise. I can’t find it in the vault. I searched ridin but 12-15 versions come up. Any suggestions?


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[livinitup921]

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Streaming on twitch. Using his Sliders. I lead the league in home runs with mariners, seeing if that slows down. Link is in my Sig.


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