Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

[Pared]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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Ed_Farias said:
So see, I just don't see a lot to get hyped about until actually trying the game seeing how the new fielding and batting works. Maybe after I try it I can get hyped

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I think that's what is making everyone so hyped. They WANT to try out the gameplay advances I mentioned earlier. I really hate when people say "Well MVP has Big Play Control!" or something like that...

Ya know what? Who cares! All that is doing is enabling the user to control his dives on the field for the most part. (Yes, it can also control slides, it's best feature, IMO!) But all it is is a fancy name...

[JRod]

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Ed_Farias said:
I think a lot of us ASB fans just have a hard time with this hype because many things have been in All-Star in the past.

Now MVP ( I had to selectively edit from the paragraphs included.
- EA Sports Pureswing system - Ok, New and sounds cool
- Big Play Control - Hmm, this sounds pretty cool too. Just seem awkward to make diving plays and such with the analog stick then switch back to the buttons, Unless you can throw with the analog stick as well, which would be nice.
- Franchise mode with team chemistry, club goals etc. Team chemistry is new, but club goals was in last years MVP and WSB2k3 (I think).
- Manager Mode - Nothing New, in fact, not done as well as ASB IMO.
- Cooperstown collection - Yup, ASB and WSB has that, plus Negro League collection in ASB
- The minors, Playing as the minors is new and pretty huge to a lot of people. ASB added the ability to play as minor leaguers in spring training and use attribute points towards that player. I don't see this even listed on the ASB list, weird.
- Pick you park - some stadium feature. Not sure what this means, but we all know ASB has a ton of classic and original stadiums that can be used for expansion teams, and they don't need to be unlocked.
- EA Sports nation - online PS2 play. Ok.

So see, I just don't see a lot to get hyped about until actually trying the game seeing how the new fielding and batting works. Maybe after I try it I can get hyped

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This isn't about what you think the features will be compared with ASB. The fact of the matter and you did a brillant job of missing the point is that ASB and MVP are offereing somewhat of the same experience.

Pared -- You said it the best it's not the features but the fact that many want to see what's going to happen with MVP. I'm excited about minors. I'm excited about trying out to see if the pitching model has been fixed.

I know what I'm getting in ASB so far MVP is a big ???. That that is what create hypes.

[JRod]

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Ed_Farias said:
I think a lot of us ASB fans just have a hard time with this hype because many things have been in All-Star in the past.

Now MVP ( I had to selectively edit from the paragraphs included.
- EA Sports Pureswing system - Ok, New and sounds cool
- Big Play Control - Hmm, this sounds pretty cool too. Just seem awkward to make diving plays and such with the analog stick then switch back to the buttons, Unless you can throw with the analog stick as well, which would be nice.
- Franchise mode with team chemistry, club goals etc. Team chemistry is new, but club goals was in last years MVP and WSB2k3 (I think).
- Manager Mode - Nothing New, in fact, not done as well as ASB IMO.
- Cooperstown collection - Yup, ASB and WSB has that, plus Negro League collection in ASB
- The minors, Playing as the minors is new and pretty huge to a lot of people. ASB added the ability to play as minor leaguers in spring training and use attribute points towards that player. I don't see this even listed on the ASB list, weird.
- Pick you park - some stadium feature. Not sure what this means, but we all know ASB has a ton of classic and original stadiums that can be used for expansion teams, and they don't need to be unlocked.
- EA Sports nation - online PS2 play. Ok.

So see, I just don't see a lot to get hyped about until actually trying the game seeing how the new fielding and batting works. Maybe after I try it I can get hyped

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This isn't about what you think the features will be compared with ASB. The fact of the matter and you did a brillant job of missing the point is that ASB and MVP are offereing somewhat of the same experience.

Pared -- You said it the best it's not the features but the fact that many want to see what's going to happen with MVP. I'm excited about minors. I'm excited about trying out to see if the pitching model has been fixed.

I know what I'm getting in ASB so far MVP is a big ???. That that is what create hypes.

[JRod]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

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Ed_Farias said:
I think a lot of us ASB fans just have a hard time with this hype because many things have been in All-Star in the past.

Now MVP ( I had to selectively edit from the paragraphs included.
- EA Sports Pureswing system - Ok, New and sounds cool
- Big Play Control - Hmm, this sounds pretty cool too. Just seem awkward to make diving plays and such with the analog stick then switch back to the buttons, Unless you can throw with the analog stick as well, which would be nice.
- Franchise mode with team chemistry, club goals etc. Team chemistry is new, but club goals was in last years MVP and WSB2k3 (I think).
- Manager Mode - Nothing New, in fact, not done as well as ASB IMO.
- Cooperstown collection - Yup, ASB and WSB has that, plus Negro League collection in ASB
- The minors, Playing as the minors is new and pretty huge to a lot of people. ASB added the ability to play as minor leaguers in spring training and use attribute points towards that player. I don't see this even listed on the ASB list, weird.
- Pick you park - some stadium feature. Not sure what this means, but we all know ASB has a ton of classic and original stadiums that can be used for expansion teams, and they don't need to be unlocked.
- EA Sports nation - online PS2 play. Ok.

So see, I just don't see a lot to get hyped about until actually trying the game seeing how the new fielding and batting works. Maybe after I try it I can get hyped

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This isn't about what you think the features will be compared with ASB. The fact of the matter and you did a brillant job of missing the point is that ASB and MVP are offereing somewhat of the same experience.

Pared -- You said it the best it's not the features but the fact that many want to see what's going to happen with MVP. I'm excited about minors. I'm excited about trying out to see if the pitching model has been fixed.

I know what I'm getting in ASB so far MVP is a big ???. That that is what create hypes.

[Ed_Farias]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Jrod, what I was saying has to do with the topic of this thread. It is the reason I believe most ASB fans think MVP is being over hyped. We feel this way because a lot of the inovative/new features MVP is hyping has been in other games already. That is why we are irritated as to why it is hyped so much .

[Ed_Farias]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Jrod, what I was saying has to do with the topic of this thread. It is the reason I believe most ASB fans think MVP is being over hyped. We feel this way because a lot of the inovative/new features MVP is hyping has been in other games already. That is why we are irritated as to why it is hyped so much .

[Ed_Farias]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Jrod, what I was saying has to do with the topic of this thread. It is the reason I believe most ASB fans think MVP is being over hyped. We feel this way because a lot of the inovative/new features MVP is hyping has been in other games already. That is why we are irritated as to why it is hyped so much .

[p00p1]

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Yeah, they used to be in ASB until they TOOK THEM OUT. User controlled slides? gone. Pressure sensitive throws? gone. These are features that directly affect gameplay.

[p00p1]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Yeah, they used to be in ASB until they TOOK THEM OUT. User controlled slides? gone. Pressure sensitive throws? gone. These are features that directly affect gameplay.

[p00p1]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Yeah, they used to be in ASB until they TOOK THEM OUT. User controlled slides? gone. Pressure sensitive throws? gone. These are features that directly affect gameplay.

[Ed_Farias]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Huh? I never mentioned either of those.

I never had a problem sliding in 04 though. I always hit Y to slide and he slides. Maybe I am not actually controlling it, but they seem to slide at the appropriate times, so it is really a non issue for me.

Anyway, not trying to get off track and compare features, just trying to state why we are irritated that MVP is hyped so much. Nothing else

[Ed_Farias]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Huh? I never mentioned either of those.

I never had a problem sliding in 04 though. I always hit Y to slide and he slides. Maybe I am not actually controlling it, but they seem to slide at the appropriate times, so it is really a non issue for me.

Anyway, not trying to get off track and compare features, just trying to state why we are irritated that MVP is hyped so much. Nothing else

[Ed_Farias]

Re: Still dunno why MVP is getting all the press.

Huh? I never mentioned either of those.

I never had a problem sliding in 04 though. I always hit Y to slide and he slides. Maybe I am not actually controlling it, but they seem to slide at the appropriate times, so it is really a non issue for me.

Anyway, not trying to get off track and compare features, just trying to state why we are irritated that MVP is hyped so much. Nothing else

[cub]

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JRod said:
the point is that ASB and MVP are offereing somewhat of the same experience.

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The ironic thing is that everyone on the MVP board would flame you for saying that.

I'm gonna stay out of this. First of all, I've already gotten a yellow card for comparing these two games on the MVP board (don't see how that's different from comparing them on the ASB board). Secondly, seems like people are going mostly on speculation and second-hand info at this point - particularly considering how much MVP has changed since last year.

I'll just say that it looks to me like MVP and ASB look at this point like very different games with some shared features.

[cub]

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JRod said:
the point is that ASB and MVP are offereing somewhat of the same experience.

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The ironic thing is that everyone on the MVP board would flame you for saying that.

I'm gonna stay out of this. First of all, I've already gotten a yellow card for comparing these two games on the MVP board (don't see how that's different from comparing them on the ASB board). Secondly, seems like people are going mostly on speculation and second-hand info at this point - particularly considering how much MVP has changed since last year.

I'll just say that it looks to me like MVP and ASB look at this point like very different games with some shared features.