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  • amarks05
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    • Feb 2009
    • 37

    #31
    Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

    Here is a question. Someone brought up before that maybe the IE that we look at after pressing left on the d-pad is just a visual effect that is set in stone. But when you edit the ratings, it all happens behind the scenes that we can notice.

    Can you try editing something else to see if it changes in the IE on-screen layout?

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    • notasenator
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      • Feb 2009
      • 45

      #32
      Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

      It really makes me wonder if the IE scores are independent of player ratings, like the game mechanics use the ratings in the probability calculations and then adjusts with the IE scores as a weighted value.

      I guess the way to test that would be to adjust other ratings and see if it affects the IE scores.

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      • ExtremeGamer
        Extra Life 11/3/18
        • Jul 2002
        • 35299

        #33
        Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

        Wow, great find.

        Hopefully this can be fixed, would probably save the game for a lot of people.

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        • notasenator
          Rookie
          • Feb 2009
          • 45

          #34
          Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

          Originally posted by amarks05
          Here is a question. Someone brought up before that maybe the IE that we look at after pressing left on the d-pad is just a visual effect that is set in stone. But when you edit the ratings, it all happens behind the scenes that we can notice.

          Can you try editing something else to see if it changes in the IE on-screen layout?
          Ok, so amark is just a bit faster than me.

          Great minds and all that.

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          • amarks05
            Rookie
            • Feb 2009
            • 37

            #35
            Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

            hhaa, I was reading yours and was like....heeeey, now that guy is smart!!

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            • bigfnjoe96
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 11410

              #36
              Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

              Pujols has a Walk Rating of 85, so does Big Papi. Adam Dunn who I've already check his IE which had a WALK Tendency of D, In the Roster his walk rating is 96..



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              • notasenator
                Rookie
                • Feb 2009
                • 45

                #37
                Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                Originally posted by amarks05
                hhaa, I was reading yours and was like....heeeey, now that guy is smart!!
                I get that all the time.

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                • stealyerface
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1803

                  #38
                  Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                  Hmmm.... Very Interesting... Could it really be that simple?

                  syf
                  "Ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know"....GD

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                  • Jistic
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 16405

                    #39
                    Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                    Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                    What I'll never understand is this: Why does it take the forum a little more then 24 hours to figure something like this out, yet the game can go through a development cycle, with guys paid to do this for living, and no one says, "Huh. That doesnt seem right. Richie Sexson has the same plate discipline as Albert Pujols."
                    I dunno, happens in every game. I'm sure they know about it though, they are under pressure to ship though, so they figure ship it. We'll patch what we can later. It's not just 2K, it's everyone. This is why the annual sports cycle sucks.
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                    • Trapdoors Exist
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 27

                      #40
                      Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                      Why does Ortiz have a B for hitting vs. LHP and a D for hitting vs. RHP?

                      Career vs. RHP: 295/398/581 (avg/obp/slg)

                      Career vs. LHP: 268/342/490

                      His splits last year were even worse against LHP.

                      Chone Figgins and Erick Aybar both have A ratings vs. RHP, but Ortiz gets a D, while he has an A in... bunting?

                      All of these IE grades look goofy, even before you consider the D walk ratings for everyone. Something ain't right here.
                      Last edited by Trapdoors Exist; 03-04-2009, 02:32 PM.

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                      • shy1011
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                        • Apr 2007
                        • 2

                        #41
                        Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                        I have found some overall rating of c-

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                        • Phobia
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11623

                          #42
                          Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                          Originally posted by Jistic
                          I dunno, happens in every game. I'm sure they know about it though, they are under pressure to ship though, so they figure ship it. We'll patch what we can later. It's not just 2K, it's everyone. This is why the annual sports cycle sucks.
                          I feel same way. I wanna see a 2 to 3 year cycle. With a roster update in the off years.

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                          • ExtremeGamer
                            Extra Life 11/3/18
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 35299

                            #43
                            Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                            The best thing to happen would be a 2K patch disabling or allowing us to completly disabling the Inside Edge.

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                            • Phobia
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                              • Jan 2008
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                              #44
                              Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                              The best thing to happen would be a 2K patch disabling or allowing us to completly disabling the Inside Edge.
                              I like IE, but these ratings being all jacked up does not help.

                              I like knowing a batters weak spots, weak types of pitchs, etc.

                              I hope they patch it to fix it so the AI tends to take more walks. BUT this means they would have to decrease pitching accuracy a good bit. As of now you can hit the plate when you want and only throw balls if you want.

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                              • amarks05
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 37

                                #45
                                Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                                Has there been any sort of comment or acknowledgment by 2k on this??

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