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  • SoxFan01605
    All Star
    • Jan 2008
    • 7982

    #181
    Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

    Originally posted by Bahnzo
    Since when? MS originally was said to not allow any patches to prevent developers from releasing unfinished games, and that didn't work. I think any info regarding Microsoft's patch policy has always been speculation. If anything, they don't want patches being released because they have to spend time and money verifying them first.
    I don't know. Ian Cummings (Madden's new Lead Designer) and Phil Frazier (Madden's Lead Producer?...not sure of his title...higher than Ian though) both mentioned that same 2 patch MS limit.

    They even discussed free DLC as an alternate option to circumvent that. So it appears it would be true in some cases at least.
    Last edited by SoxFan01605; 03-07-2009, 08:02 AM. Reason: Seriously...how many letters can one guy miss...I gues alot if your THIS guy...lol.

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    • Skyboxer
      Donny Baseball!
      • Jul 2002
      • 20302

      #182
      Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

      Originally posted by SoxFan01605
      i don't know. Ian Cummings (Madden's new Lead Designer) and Phil Frazier (Madden's Lead Producer?...not surr of his title...higher than Ian though) both mentined that same 2 patch MS limit.

      They even discussed free DLC as an alternate option to circumvent that. So it appears it would be true in some cases at least.
      I thought they were only allowed 1 free patch and after that they have to pay. It used to be that so maybe it changed. I don't believe there was ever a "No Patch" rule from MS. At least it never has been inforced.
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      • roadman
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2003
        • 26339

        #183
        Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

        Originally posted by Bahnzo
        Since when? MS originally was said to not allow any patches to prevent developers from releasing unfinished games, and that didn't work. I think any info regarding Microsoft's patch policy has always been speculation. If anything, they don't want patches being released because they have to spend time and money verifying them first.
        I mentioned earlier in the thread both NCAA and Madden developers told OS that MS has a two free patch limit for their console.

        Anything beyond that, they have to pay for.

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        • Jistic
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
          • 16405

          #184
          Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

          I downloaded somebody's sliders from the share yesterday. I can't remember the guys name but in the description it said something like 'modified guru's sliders'. It's near the top in the top rated.

          Anyway, not perfect, but so far the best I've seen as far as pitch counts AND CPU taking pitches.

          Not a fix, but I recommend trying it.
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          • sportyguyfl31
            MVP
            • Nov 2005
            • 4745

            #185
            Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

            I'm sure someone has thought of this already, but has anyone tried deliberately throwing waste pitches in "chase" zones?

            I played the phillies with my mets on default legend and had 1-0, 6 hit shutout, between Santana, Putz, and K-Rod

            I would throw some balls out of the zone, and then come back in, and they would actually appear fooled and not hit everything in the zone so dang sharply...they'd sometimes go fishing outside the zone, and sometimes get caught looking or with a check swing K at times.

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            • a2ndrgmaster
              Banned
              • Jun 2005
              • 545

              #186
              Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

              thisis the only reason why i haven't started my franchise yet

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              • dekuyper
                Rookie
                • Mar 2009
                • 16

                #187
                Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                I'm sure someone has thought of this already, but has anyone tried deliberately throwing waste pitches in "chase" zones?

                I played the phillies with my mets on default legend and had 1-0, 6 hit shutout, between Santana, Putz, and K-Rod

                I would throw some balls out of the zone, and then come back in, and they would actually appear fooled and not hit everything in the zone so dang sharply...they'd sometimes go fishing outside the zone, and sometimes get caught looking or with a check swing K at times.
                Yeah, I definitely am successful by pitching on the corners or even outside the strike zone. I think it's pretty realistic that you can't just pound the strike zone and not get hammered. I am dissapointed that the called strike is broken for the most part, but being patient can earn you success in this game.

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                • Peter_OS
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5088

                  #188
                  Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                  Originally posted by a2ndrgmaster
                  thisis the only reason why i haven't started my franchise yet
                  Same here.

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                  • fren123
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 2

                    #189
                    Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                    I'm just perplexed as to how an entire group of developers releasing a licensed product can ALL overlook the fact that guys like Jody Gerut shouldn't-at any point, have a B+ ranking while a guy like Mariano Rivera has a 86 rating.

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                    • zpq12
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1102

                      #190
                      Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                      Originally posted by fren123
                      I'm just perplexed as to how an entire group of developers releasing a licensed product can ALL overlook the fact that guys like Jody Gerut shouldn't-at any point, have a B+ ranking while a guy like Mariano Rivera has a 86 rating.
                      Why can't Jody Gerut have a B+ rating?
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                      • jeffy777
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3322

                        #191
                        Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                        I really hope we get an official word this week about what 2K is doing about this. I realize it may take a few weeks to crank out a patch, but they really should at least tell us officially that they plan to remedy this issue (and others).

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                        • SoxFan01605
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                          • Jan 2008
                          • 7982

                          #192
                          Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                          Originally posted by jeffy777
                          I really hope we get an official word this week about what 2K is doing about this. I realize it may take a few weeks to crank out a patch, but they really should at least tell us officially that they plan to remedy this issue (and others).
                          Agreed. I finally cracked open my PC version last night (what the heck, right?...lol) and I actually found it smoother and better looking overall than on the 360.

                          That's not to say that the same issues don't remain...they still do. BUT if those issues can be at least reduced via patch (most important being this very issue) and the PC mods can squeeze some more customization out of the game, then I can see myself getting some amount of enjoyment from this down the road.

                          Of course...this is under the blanket of hope that VC realizes the importance of patching the PC version and eventually does so.

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                          • Jistic
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 16405

                            #193
                            Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                            Originally posted by jeffy777
                            I really hope we get an official word this week about what 2K is doing about this. I realize it may take a few weeks to crank out a patch, but they really should at least tell us officially that they plan to remedy this issue (and others).
                            If history is any indicator, that won't happen.
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                            • boomhauertjs
                              All Star
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 5373

                              #194
                              Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                              Last year's patch came out April 7. Guess I can hold off buying the game for a couple more weeks.

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                              • therizing02
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 4176

                                #195
                                Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                                Originally posted by Jistic
                                If history is any indicator, that won't happen.
                                Yep. The last I heard was that they were "looking into it". My guess is that they're "looking into it" for next year.

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