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  • tinpanalley
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 3401

    #166
    Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

    Well, people's problems are that the CPU hitters either swing at everything or put EVERY ball into play. That they don't take pitches, and tend to make contact all the time even if it ends up being an out.

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    • Ltrain44
      Rookie
      • Feb 2004
      • 440

      #167
      Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

      I have that problem too, along with everyone else. But I also have the problem of the AI scoring no runs on me at all.

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      • Spanky
        MVP
        • Nov 2002
        • 2785

        #168
        Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

        Originally posted by Ltrain44
        For me the AI cannot hit anything. I play on All-star and I can throw shutout's with Mark Hendrikson and Matt ALbers all day long. I heard people say they get hit hard by the AI but I have the opposite affect. They cannot hit me at all.
        That's wonderful, Cy Young, but as you can see from the feedback in these forums, the main issue is the AI swinging at eveything near the plate.
        It's on me. I shook his hand too hard. It was a hard ... kind of a slap-shake.

        "What? You can't challenge a scoring play?''

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        • BigBlue
          Pro
          • Feb 2003
          • 662

          #169
          Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

          Just want to chime in for a minute. I was playing a game yesterday using BigFNJoes sliders and at one point, I was pitching and fell behind to Griffey 3-0, expecting that he would take a strike. To my surprise, he swung and lined out.

          So I did the same with another hitter in the Seattle lineup and he too swung at 3-0. Obviously just more proof of what we already know. I will try to test this with Pujols tonight. I'm curious about the percentage of hitters that normally take a strike while up 3-0 in the count and what the MLB avg is.

          BigBlue

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #170
            Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

            Originally posted by Spanky
            That's wonderful, Cy Young, but as you can see from the feedback in these forums, the main issue is the AI swinging at eveything near the plate.

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            • ~Guru~
              Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 851

              #171
              Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

              Originally posted by Ltrain44
              For me the AI cannot hit anything. I play on All-star and I can throw shutout's with Mark Hendrikson and Matt ALbers all day long. I heard people say they get hit hard by the AI but I have the opposite affect. They cannot hit me at all.

              without sliders this game is to easy....try some sliders and then see how great you are......

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              • lived
                Rookie
                • Jan 2008
                • 385

                #172
                Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                Sliders have made this game more realistic for me. I have found the Strike zone is drawn too small and pitching an inch out will still get you strikes.

                My second biggest problem in pitching after AI aggession is the fact breaking ball are almost un-hittable. I can literally throw no hitters if I wanted to

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                • muttcope
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 9

                  #173
                  Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                  Originally posted by BigBlue
                  Just want to chime in for a minute. I was playing a game yesterday using BigFNJoes sliders and at one point, I was pitching and fell behind to Griffey 3-0, expecting that he would take a strike. To my surprise, he swung and lined out.

                  So I did the same with another hitter in the Seattle lineup and he too swung at 3-0. Obviously just more proof of what we already know. I will try to test this with Pujols tonight. I'm curious about the percentage of hitters that normally take a strike while up 3-0 in the count and what the MLB avg is.

                  BigBlue
                  From 2000-2005 in MLB there were 46,623 3-0 counts. 41,934 times the batter took the pitch. 3882 times he swung at the pitch. That is 8.3% of the time.

                  1884 of those 3882 times the batter swung and the ball was put in play. And out of those 1884 times the ball was put in play there were 701 hits.

                  All stats are taken from thehardballtimes.com


                  Hope that helps

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                  • krazzed
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 301

                    #174
                    Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                    Originally posted by muttcope
                    From 2000-2005 in MLB there were 46,623 3-0 counts. 41,934 times the batter took the pitch. 3882 times he swung at the pitch. That is 8.3% of the time.

                    1884 of those 3882 times the batter swung and the ball was put in play. And out of those 1884 times the ball was put in play there were 701 hits.

                    All stats are taken from thehardballtimes.com


                    Hope that helps
                    Try sending those to 2k lol. They are the ones who need it.

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                    • Ltrain44
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 440

                      #175
                      Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                      Originally posted by ~Guru~
                      without sliders this game is to easy....try some sliders and then see how great you are......
                      I was not saying I was great. I was saying some people say they are getting hit around the park by the AI. I am not. And it frustrates me. They swing at everything and when they do hit the ball in play it's usually a weak grounder or flyball

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                      • ~Guru~
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 851

                        #176
                        Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                        Originally posted by Ltrain44
                        I was not saying I was great. I was saying some people say they are getting hit around the park by the AI. I am not. And it frustrates me. They swing at everything and when they do hit the ball in play it's usually a weak grounder or flyball

                        i know what u meant.... am trying to solve ur issue

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                        • brendanrfoley
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1552

                          #177
                          Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                          Originally posted by m-dogg
                          two patch limit?

                          is this definitely true? because I know this patch is not gonna be a magical cure all, and we cant control the AI swinging...I'd hate for the aggressiveness to better but the curveball still unhittable, or some other AI hitting quirk. its a delicate balance and the odds of nailing it on the first try...makes me nervous..
                          Microsoft instituted a strict, two patch limit to prevent developers from releasing games that need a lot of work and continually patching it. A few other developers have run into problems in the past, and Microsoft made an exception, but I don't see them doing so in this case (unless the second patch truly breaks the game).

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                          • NC State-31 UNC-27
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1525

                            #178
                            Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                            Sim Baller in the other thread said they would fix the Cubs scheduling issue through Living Rosters. Couldn't they fix this as well, then? Will they publicly admit that it's a problem and/or that they fixed it though? I'll be curious to see what you guys say after the next couple of living roster updates.

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                            • brendanrfoley
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1552

                              #179
                              Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                              The scheduling issue can be (and may have already been) fixed with Living Rosters. It's unclear if over aggressive CPU hitters can be, though. We'll know in due time. MLB 2K8's patch came out last year in early April. I imagine the same will happen with 2K9.

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                              • Bahnzo
                                Can't spell antetokounmpo
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 2809

                                #180
                                Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

                                Originally posted by brendanrfoley
                                Microsoft instituted a strict, two patch limit to prevent developers from releasing games that need a lot of work and continually patching it.
                                Since when? MS originally was said to not allow any patches to prevent developers from releasing unfinished games, and that didn't work. I think any info regarding Microsoft's patch policy has always been speculation. If anything, they don't want patches being released because they have to spend time and money verifying them first.
                                Steam: Bahnzo

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