AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

[zpq12]

Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

OK. So last nite I was running across the odd strike looking and whatever. Today I played part of a game that had several looking strikes, but tonight I threw probably 100-120 pitches with the Twins against the Rangers and came up with a good amount of strikes looking(maybe 10-12?). Thats an estimate, but the thing is I think you have to, have to, have to be willing to throw some garbage. I don't know really what it is but the more trash I throw the more willing the CPU seems to take a strike. It also helps when you throw the fringe stuff that is intended to miss slightly sometimes this end up as called strikes. Clearly this should probablly be dealt with and the IE no doubts needs to be patched to work correctly, but I feel a lot more positive about pitching in this game. There were even a couple times when I threw obivous strikes that resulted in looking strikes.

In any case I hope this is patched. I'm of the belief that sliders shoudl be able to throw a certain part of the game way out of whack wither way, with somewhere in the middle being a happy medium. That said, I don't think we should have to struggle to get strikes looking because clearly there are players in the MLB that look at basically EVERY first pitch, ball or strike. I think the IE stuff(from the main menu) reflects this really quite well, so I think the patch should focus on making the IE work more like it should. Clearly it is supposed to, so it shouldn't be difficult to make the game work as intended should it?

/rambling

[therockstar2005]

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I mean, that's what really sucks about this. This game is, right now, at a level of ok to good, but it could be great. This issue isn't stopping me from playing the game, just keeping me from getting more believable pitching. For me it doesn't need to be the most realistic game, but no batters are that aggressive ever.

Real good game, 2k. Please fix.

[zpq12]

Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

I mean, that's what really sucks about this. This game is, right now, at a level of ok to good, but it could be great. This issue isn't stopping me from playing the game, just keeping me from getting more believable pitching. For me it doesn't need to be the most realistic game, but no batters are that aggressive ever.

Real good game, 2k. Please fix.

I felt like the game I played tonite was very realistic. I agree. If the IE worked right, this game could be grand.

[HMcCoy]

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Has this been patched? I played my first full game and was surprised by how many strikes the AI took. At least a couple per inning. These were with the OS sliders, tho.

[astronut]

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I'd just settle for being able to get strikeouts without having to throw a 12-6 curve for strike 3. That seems to be the only thing that consistently works.

the curveball is really ruining pitching expierience for me. I was volquez reds vs cubs I struck out 9 cubs in a complete game win with volquez. I threw 105 pitches. It seemed like cpu would either miss or hit a slow roller off of curve most of game. I saw 2 times they hit it hard but both times at my fielders. If you throw it 5 or 6 times in a row they will finally lace it, bust as long as you mix in fastball they can't hit it. I had cpu contact at 45 cpu sucess at 50 and cpu ower at 60. If they could just fix this along with hitter aggeression and maybe make it little harder to pin point pitches this game could be good. I am really liking hitting though. Its like 2 different games from pitching to hating. Really hating how well curves work against cpu though.

[JohnDoe8865]

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Has this been patched? I played my first full game and was surprised by how many strikes the AI took. At least a couple per inning. These were with the OS sliders, tho.

Hasn't been patched yet, but it sounds like you had an awesome experience there to get them to take some strikes. They might take 3 or 4 a game for me with BFJ's sliders from here.

[roadman]

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Any idea of when we could expect a patch? It seems a small patch to fix crucial issues like this would be good, and then a bigger patch later to take care of other less pressing stuff.

Based off of NCAA College Football and Madden, each company is allowed two free patches for their games.

2k9 has already had one patch. I don't think they will rush a patch out just to fix a major issue. I would think they want all the major and minor issues addressed and then fix and release.

If that is the case, they have to test the patch and send it to MS for certification. That process takes a few weeks.

I would say, if we are lucky, a patch around opening day would be the target.

I don't know if it's different rules with EA football games, but that is what the EA reps explained to OS.

[sportyguyfl31]

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What I've discovered, is that you basically have to pitch like Tom Glavine in his prime, to have any hope of not getting laced all over the park

You have to attack the very edges of the corners, and be willing to go off the plate at times. If you look at the IE, you will see %'s on where the hitters are likelyto go fishing out of the zone.

Ive found that I can do this, and then bust inside with something and get a swing and miss, a broken bat, Pop up, called looking, whatever.

But I also lose as well. Its not like it is automatic by any stretch.

And yes, the CPU will make contact on the curveball depending on who you are throwing it to, where youre locating it, etc.

Its not ideal, but for now, I'm going to do what I need to do within the game, to get reasonable pitching performances.

Hopefully IE gets patched, but if not, this is working pretty darn well for me.

[TahJay561]

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60 bucks for a patch :smh:

[notasenator]

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As a diehard long-suffering Nationals fan, when I played the Nats and they showed a complete lack of plate discipline, I was ready to praise the game as remarkably realistic.

[teambayern]

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I know this isn't a fix by any means, but I've found that one of the many factors leading to this problem might be the drawing of the strike zone in-game. I pitch just OUTSIDE the strike zone and usually get strikes. As you can imagine, a lot of them were called strikes.

I know it's not as simple as redrawing the strike zone to fix batter aggressiveness, but just imagine that the box they give you is a ball's length wider and you'll see improvements in CPU taking pitches, and I many of them will be strikes.

[Phobia]

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I know this isn't a fix by any means, but I've found that one of the many factors leading to this problem might be the drawing of the strike zone in-game. I pitch just OUTSIDE the strike zone and usually get strikes. As you can imagine, a lot of them were called strikes.

I know it's not as simple as redrawing the strike zone to fix batter aggressiveness, but just imagine that the box they give you is a ball's length wider and you'll see improvements in CPU taking pitches, and I many of them will be strikes.

I have noticed this to.

I think a big issue is also the amount of "control" the pitchers have. You can hit the strike zone where ever you want almost pin point. Balls coming from a pitcher not being able to get control down is not a issue. I think pitching is slightly dumbed down.

[belljr]

Re: AI "Hitting:" Inside Edge is BROKEN... (Reason AI is so Aggressive) Phot's inside

I know this isn't a fix by any means, but I've found that one of the many factors leading to this problem might be the drawing of the strike zone in-game. I pitch just OUTSIDE the strike zone and usually get strikes. As you can imagine, a lot of them were called strikes.

I know it's not as simple as redrawing the strike zone to fix batter aggressiveness, but just imagine that the box they give you is a ball's length wider and you'll see improvements in CPU taking pitches, and I many of them will be strikes.

I turned off the zone and vibration will be next and think it has helped a little

[teambayern]

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I have noticed this to.

I think a big issue is also the amount of "control" the pitchers have. You can hit the strike zone where ever you want almost pin point. Balls coming from a pitcher not being able to get control down is not a issue. I think pitching is slightly dumbed down.

I totally agree. I played a few games online last night, and when we played with classic controls, the game was much better in this regard. Having the 3 step meter throwing (where you press, hold, then press again) brought back the element of having to try for your spot. It also seriously reduced lag in batting, or at least felt that way because it works quicker.

Phobia, hit me up when you're on, it would be good to get some games with you, Pappy, and any of the other Armchair guys.

[Phobia]

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I totally agree. I played a few games online last night, and when we played with classic controls, the game was much better in this regard. Having the 3 step meter throwing (where you press, hold, then press again) brought back the element of having to try for your spot. It also seriously reduced lag in batting, or at least felt that way because it works quicker.

Phobia, hit me up when you're on, it would be good to get some games with you, Pappy, and any of the other Armchair guys.

for sure bayern!!!