The OS Breakdown of the 2K Slider Theory

[Jistic]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Yeah. Could be right. It seems to me that the higher the skill the harder the CPU hits the ball. I think the right setting is somewhere between 5-10, at least for me anyway. We all play differently.

The one thing that I do that's probably different from most is pitch at or very close to every single catcher suggestion based off of IE. I've never done that in a baseball video game and I am getting GREAT results as far as varying game types, pitch counts, and overall gameplay. There are situations where he makes a call and I'm thinking no way will I throw a fastball down the middle to ARod on a full count. Struck him out looking Give it a try.

I've turned off IE, however I do pitch mostly to the catchers suggestions as well. Then again, you can't turn it off! But I hear ya. He makes some crazy suggestions that work. Then again, he also calls for sinkers up high in the zone. He did a great job for me against Prince Fielder however.

[ehh]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

So do you feel AI Skill Slider needs to be lower & if so what should be a good starting point?

I don't even know what AI Skill controls to be honest but I assume it's the timing and ability to read pitches. Seems like other people aren't having the same problem so maybe I just suck, not sure. I'll play around with them tomorrow probably, won't have a chance to spend any time w. the game tonight.

EDIT: I just read Therizing's post, looks like he might be on to something. I'll see if I can spend 10-15 minutes trying that out right when I get home from work.

[therizing02]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

EDIT: I just read Therizing's post, looks like he might be on to something. I'll see if I can spend 10-15 minutes trying that out right when I get home from work.

Sounds good. Looking forward to hearing your feedback. I would suggest at least 3 full games though

For example, here are the results from my last two games:

CLE (me) 2 BALT-1

I struck out 14 times against Jeremy Guthrie (he tipped his hat to the crowd when he was pulled in the 8th!!) and managed 3 hits and 2 walks. I won the game on a dropped third strike in the 9th. The Orioles had 105 pitches and Byrd/Betancourt had 95.

CUBS (me) 15 SEA-6

I struck out 5 times and had 15 hits. Was down 5-1 after the first and took the lead 8-6 on a Soriano GS in the 6th. The Mariners threw 172 pitches and walked me 11 times!! I threw 136 pitches as I started Lieber who could not get out of the 1st. He threw 45 pitches in that inning. I used Seattle's fifth starter as well. He was equally as bad. When I got into their bullpen it was worse.

You get the idea.

[ehh]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

AI Skill setting at 5 and I'm getting great I have CPU contact at 50 and Power at 40.

Contact:55
Power:85
Skill:100

Are these the only changes from BFJ's latest update?

Sounds good. Looking forward to hearing your feedback. I would suggest at least 3 full games though

Screw it, I'm going home on my lunch to test these out. I should be able to give some feedback in two hours or so.

[therizing02]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Are these the only changes from BFJ's latest update?

Screw it, I'm going home on my lunch to test these out. I should be able to give some feedback in two hours or so.

Ha! Nice. Give me a few minutes to check what I'm using.

[bsbllstr876]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Are you guys getting good results with these? I tried 2 games already and:

15-6 with 8 HR's combined

10-8 with 10 HR's combined

Not really seeing many balls thrown by the cpu. And just to test it further I let the cpu pitch without me swinging and they threw 2 balls and 9 strikes

[mizzouj]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

I got the AI skill slider down to around 30 I believe. And yeah I don't see a difference. I really believe the skill slider increases the ability to "get a hit".

I know that sounds crazy, but I think it's true. Power, is power. We know what it does. Contact, is simply making contact, but not always solid contact.

Skill is the difference between hitting at somebody and hitting it where they aint. That's my early impression anyway.

I believe you're correct, but I'm also seeing some inflated power with this. I've been using contact/power at 30/30 and AI skill at 75-100. I'm not great at the total control pitching, but the computer is getting way too many extra base hits and general hard hit balls with these settings. I'm playing bad teams and giving up 400 ft. frozen ropes to all fields, even when making good pitches. I'm not saying a player, especially a higher calibur one, can't do something with a good pitch. Just seems to be happening way too much. Also, I want the computer to make me pay for mistakes, but not an extra base hit with EVERY player and EVERY mistake.

This issue seems to greatly snowball with runners on base. Some pitchers get flustered with men on and don't pitch as well out the stretch, I understand that. However, with these settings, it seems like the minute an inning starts going bad, it's 10 runs and 2 pitching changes later to stop the bleeding. Last night I was Tampa with Kazmir and leading 2-0 after 5. The computer had 5 hits, I had 6, and the game felt very realistic. Next thing you know, the Pirates start hitting doubles and triples like it's a game of coed slow pitch softball. 10 runs on 10 hits. I wasn't really pitching any different and Kazmir still had enough stamina. I have no problem allowing a big inning, but this seems to be happening to a degree in one inning every game.

[therizing02]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Are these the only changes from BFJ's latest update?

Those aren't the only changes. All others are minimal though based on my playing style. Here are the more significant ones.

Base Running Speed-65. Seems right to me.IF/OF Errors (USER and CPU)-30. Still see enough. D Lee had two in one game!
IF/OF Speed(USER and CPU)-40
IF/OF Reaction-10
Pitcher Fatigue-65
TC Pitching-50
Injuries-40 I was seeing too many at 50.


AI Run Aggression-75
AI IF/OF Reaction-0
AI Contact-50
AI Power-35
AI Skill- Somewhere between 5-10.

Those are the main differences.

[therizing02]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Are you guys getting good results with these?

Not really seeing many balls thrown by the cpu. And just to test it further I let the cpu pitch without me swinging and they threw 2 balls and 9 strikes

No offense man but, you're opinion is based on 11 pitches? Keep playing. I notice that the CPU throws more strikes in the first few innings anyway, as they do in real life.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Could some test this-out for me please. Turn off the hold runners option in your settings. Bump both Run Aggression & Stolen Base Success & see if the runner will take-off.

Something is telling me that option may be why runners are not taking off.

[Qb]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Just posted in my game-tracking thread that the CPU sure seems to pitch more realistically with 'AI Pitchers use IE' ON than they do with it OFF. This is through a few games, with the same AI Pitching sliders (40 Corner, 40 Change, 0 TS for all) and I'm seeing about a 2:1 strike/ball ratio. The only other thing I'm doing differently is rarely, if ever, using the batter's eye. I'm just leaving it centered...

[mizzouj]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Those aren't the only changes. All others are minimal though based on my playing style. Here are the more significant ones.

Base Running Speed-65. Seems right to me.IF/OF Errors (USER and CPU)-30. Still see enough. D Lee had two in one game!
IF/OF Speed(USER and CPU)-40
IF/OF Reaction-10
Pitcher Fatigue-65
TC Pitching-50
Injuries-40 I was seeing too many at 50.


AI Run Aggression-75
AI IF/OF Reaction-0
AI Contact-50
AI Power-35
AI Skill- Somewhere between 5-10.

Those are the main differences.

Thanks for the input, I'm going to lean toward a lot of these changes.

[Qb]

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Could some test this-out for me please. Turn off the hold runners option in your settings. Bump both Run Aggression & Stolen Base Success & see if the runner will take-off.

Something is telling me that option may be why runners are not taking off.

I'm about to play one right now, so I'll test it out. I hope there is a way to hold the runner manually in the infield position options... Any particular setting for RA and SBS? I have my RA at 85 and SBS at 60 right now.

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Just posted in my game-tracking thread that the CPU sure seems to pitch more realistically with 'AI Pitchers use IE' ON than they do with it OFF. This is through a few games, with the same AI Pitching sliders (40 Corner, 40 Change, 0 TS for all) and I'm seeing about a 2:1 strike/ball ratio. The only other thing I'm doing differently is rarely, if ever, using the batter's eye. I'm just leaving it centered...

Sounds encouraging. Q, if possible, what do you have Hold Runner set to? If for some reason you have it on. Try turning it off bump up all AI Running Sliders & see if runners attempt to steal. For some weird reason, I think having it on may be why were seeing many SB

[Qb]

Re: BFJ All-Star " Custom Total Control" Sliders

Sounds encouraging. Q, if possible, what do you have Hold Runner set to? If for some reason you have it on. Try turning it off bump up all AI Running Sliders & see if runners attempt to steal. For some weird reason, I think having it on may be why were seeing many SB

I'm about to play with 'Hold Runners' set to NEVER and the running slider set at what you have on the first page. I also raised 'AI Diveback' to 55 or 60 so maybe they will take some larger leads. Who knows at this point...

I'll post the results in my game-tracking thread and the running stuff in here. I'll go against a running team as well to make it interesting...