mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I've taken your advice guys... lowered those two items you mentioned (cpu batting power down to 75 from 80) and lowered cpu baserunning aggression from 90 down to 75.

Thanks for the input...

(Latest sliders noted on page 1 - post 1. These are NOT on 2K Share. Still want to verify more testing).

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Sweeping changes across the board. In 3 games played I wasn't liking some things I was seeing. This patch definitely changed the game... I'm trying to get it to play like realistic baseball.

Updated at 2:35 am on May 21st. All changes in bold/red.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

CPU batting contact (50) and CPU batting power (80) were updated. Suddenly I can dominate the CPU and they are no longer a threat.

I lowered the user pitch break influence because I saw a lot of guys swinging at bad pitches.

Suddenly I'm finding that with all the good this patch brought, it really changed this game more than I realized. In some ways it's like starting over... Frustrating.

[Hal Fowler]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Ive found that Classic Hitting just reults in too many weak grounders, try total control, hit with power until 2 strikes then contact it, even with low power guys the power swing results in hard liners, doubles/tripes and occasional HR's

That's exactly what I have taken to doing. Power swing is the normal swing. but with two strikes, you choke up a little. Feel free not to if you have Albert Pujols. But I usually even do with him.

In tight games, with guys in scoring position, I may opt to stick with contact to try and drive in a run, especially with my lower line-up guys.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I respectfully disagree. Classic swing is awesome, and provides a great blend.

Last night I hit a homer and 4 doubles (2 drives in the gaps I had not seen before...and 2 off the wall).

Sorry, but comments like this are bogus. Classic swing is all about timing, pitch speed and location of bat-on-ball physics. You have to be patient and pick your pitches.

This is about preference...not about one being better than the other...

[PMO]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I respectfully disagree. Classic swing is awesome, and provides a great blend.

Last night I hit a homer and 4 doubles (2 drives in the gaps I had not seen before...and 2 off the wall).

Sorry, but comments like this are bogus. Classic swing is all about timing, pitch speed and location of bat-on-ball physics. You have to be patient and pick your pitches.

This is about preference...not about one being better than the other...

Yea its definitely preference when it comes down to, ive found total control to be better but classic a lot of people including you like better, but like I was saying to that guy, if your doing poorly with 1 then just try the other, see what fits for ya

and on a 2nd note dont go too crazy changing sliders MK, ive been using urs for 45 games now in my franchise, about 5 post patch and not much has changed in gameplay on a consistent basis except the aggression.......love ur sliders man

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Just played a really fun game (exhibition) with the latest set...

Today's Cubs (cpu) at Red Sox (me) game. I lost 4-1.

Cubs had 9 hits and I had 7 (2 doubles: Ortiz and Salt). Zambrano had me off balance most of the game. I had my chances but hit into a couple key double-plays. Aceves struggled for me but did get 5 innings. Wheeler pitched the last 4, giving up only 1 hit in relief and struck out 4. The guy who killed me was Soriano (solo homer and 3 RBI's).

I'll continue to test these, but I'm thinking these are close. There's only 1 thing that I'm mulling over: lowering cpu pitch success to 55, but I'd rather wait and see how this plays out against a number of different rated pitchers. I believe that Zambrano is an 84 overall, so he should be tough. Appreciate any feedback...

[Hal Fowler]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I respectfully disagree. Classic swing is awesome, and provides a great blend.

Last night I hit a homer and 4 doubles (2 drives in the gaps I had not seen before...and 2 off the wall).

Sorry, but comments like this are bogus. Classic swing is all about timing, pitch speed and location of bat-on-ball physics. You have to be patient and pick your pitches.

This is about preference...not about one being better than the other...

I see what you are saying. But exactly how is TC not about timing, pitch speed and location of bat-on-ball physics?

I don't use the LS at all. i have considered going back to it for when the game tells me that the pitch will be inside or outside. I don't think that is realistic, but I think the game expects you to, so it would increase the power on those pitches.

But main reason for avoiding classic is that I really like the way the check swing is implemented. It feels very natural, and it works very well. I can't imagine there being a better way. And it is a key part of hitting well.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

If you guys dislike classic hitting so much, then why are you guys posting here? No offense, so please don't take it that way. But you know what this thread is about, right?

[Hunkerdown]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Exactly!!! go to total control slider posts, please.

Back to slider talk, very close with the latest set, man I am loving this game, more variety of hits, pop ups, etc....... fielding on both sides is way smoother now, I can hit homeruns with different players now, not just heyward, mcann, or uggla. The fatigue being fixed really adds strategy to franchise. I am just playing and testing sliders in spring training to we get a close to final set.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Exactly!!! go to total control slider posts, please.

Back to slider talk, very close with the latest set, man I am loving this game, more variety of hits, pop ups, etc....... fielding on both sides is way smoother now, I can hit homeruns with different players now, not just heyward, mcann, or uggla. The fatigue being fixed really adds strategy to franchise. I am just playing and testing sliders in spring training to we get a close to final set.

Do you think we should keep cpu AI Pitch Success at 60 or lower it to 55?

I don't think 50 makes them good enough, but at 60 I don't know if it will turn into a ground ball fest?

Let me know if anything stands out as needing fixed. I really appreciate your input!! thanks!

[PMO]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Do you think we should keep cpu AI Pitch Success at 60 or lower it to 55?

I don't think 50 makes them good enough, but at 60 I don't know if it will turn into a ground ball fest?

Let me know if anything stands out as needing fixed. I really appreciate your input!! thanks!

60 has been fantastic.......tough pitchers are extremely hard while the normal guys are decent, I think 60 is great

[Hunkerdown]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Do you think we should keep cpu AI Pitch Success at 60 or lower it to 55?

I don't think 50 makes them good enough, but at 60 I don't know if it will turn into a ground ball fest?

Let me know if anything stands out as needing fixed. I really appreciate your input!! thanks!

60 is good it seems, also, I disagree with human pitch control at 15, i think 25 was perfect. Had game with Hanson(87 overall) against Nats, where he had them no hit through 4, but I actually was winning 5-1, because he walked a run in?? I could not for my life get a strike even if I hit the ring perfect and strike zone?? 5th inning was more of the same, so next game I put back at 25. To see if more realistic.

[PMO]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

60 is good it seems, also, I disagree with human pitch control at 15, i think 25 was perfect. Had game with Hanson(87 overall) against Nats, where he had them no hit through 4, but I actually was winning 5-1, because he walked a run in?? I could not for my life get a strike even if I hit the ring perfect and strike zone?? 5th inning was more of the same, so next game I put back at 25. To see if more realistic.

Agreed also, Im actually at 30 and love it, so seeing 15 is scary to me lol

[Hunkerdown]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K11 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Agreed also, Im actually at 30 and love it, so seeing 15 is scary to me lol

Yep I just had classic at 25, Hudson vs Grienke, both went to 8th inning, final score Brewers 3-1, great game, seemed realistic throughout. both teams had 8 hits each.