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[Jistic]

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I'm at the stage of Bonds hate where if it was rumored he killed a litter of kittens, I'd believe it. So this is just gravy

Man we got some people in the groove tonight!

[Rodster]

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I'm at the stage of Bonds hate where if it was rumored he killed a litter of kittens, I'd believe it. So this is just gravy

[GBrushTWood]

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I seem to recall one of the authors of the book, Faidaru-Waru or whatever his name is, as being one of the first to break the leaked grand jury testimony when a couple of years ago. Because of this, you know he is not new to the intricacies of this story, and has likely taken his time to ensure the that proper sourcing and fact finding is secured.

[DGetz]

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Remember the wrestler Superstar Billy Graham. He had his legs amputated due to roids and eventually died. That might happen to Barry US Roids. Stand up and take a bow Bud Selig. You should be proud of what you let go on.

Bonds and all the other roid users are grown men; it's not Selig's job to take care of them.

[rsox]

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Bonds and all the other roid users are grown men; it's not Selig's job to take care of them.

No but it is Selig's job to enforce the rules of Baseball and not turn a blind eye to an issue that has become more prevalent during his time as commissioner. This only became a major issue because of Canseco and his book, then Congress decided to get involved and basically forced Baseball into action. Selig likely did not want to address the issue because after the strike it was the McGwire/Sosa Home Run chase that brought people back to Baseball. The players got bigger, the numbers more inflated and the attendance (in most places) grew and grew. HR's meant offense, offense meant more fans and more fans meant more money.
Bud Selig is just as guilty as any of the players.

[DGetz]

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No but it is Selig's job to enforce the rules of Baseball and not turn a blind eye to an issue that has become more prevalent during his time as commissioner. This only became a major issue because of Canseco and his book, then Congress decided to get involved and basically forced Baseball into action. Selig likely did not want to address the issue because after the strike it was the McGwire/Sosa Home Run chase that brought people back to Baseball. The players got bigger, the numbers more inflated and the attendance (in most places) grew and grew. HR's meant offense, offense meant more fans and more fans meant more money.
Bud Selig is just as guilty as any of the players.

I agree completly about Selig's responsibility to the game and that he is at fault for letting this problem grow to the extent it did. However the post I was referencing was referring to the potential physical side effects to a steroid user and I read it as blaming Selig for what may happen to the player's bodies down the road. While as I said I agree 100% that Selig is at fault for allowing steroids to become so prevalent in baseball he isnt responsible for what others do to their own bodies.

[USF11]

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No but it is Selig's job to enforce the rules of Baseball and not turn a blind eye to an issue that has become more prevalent during his time as commissioner. This only became a major issue because of Canseco and his book, then Congress decided to get involved and basically forced Baseball into action. Selig likely did not want to address the issue because after the strike it was the McGwire/Sosa Home Run chase that brought people back to Baseball. The players got bigger, the numbers more inflated and the attendance (in most places) grew and grew. HR's meant offense, offense meant more fans and more fans meant more money.
Bud Selig is just as guilty as any of the players.

Bud is a joke. Barry is a joke. The people the stand behind Barry are an even bigger joke.

If MLB doesn't throw Barry out on his ***, then I'll have a hard time watching anything baseball this year. Its gonna be hilarious to see how E$PN spins this as they worship the guy.

[AI_Franchise]

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Bud is a joke. Barry is a joke. The people the stand behind Barry are an even bigger joke.

If MLB doesn't throw Barry out on his ***, then I'll have a hard time watching anything baseball this year. Its gonna be hilarious to see how E$PN spins this as they worship the guy.

ESPN planned a reality show starring Barry Bonds. How do you think they feel after today?

[rsox]

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I agree completly about Selig's responsibility to the game and that he is at fault for letting this problem grow to the extent it did. However the post I was referencing was referring to the potential physical side effects to a steroid user and I read it as blaming Selig for what may happen to the player's bodies down the road. While as I said I agree 100% that Selig is at fault for allowing steroids to become so prevalent in baseball he isnt responsible for what others do to their own bodies.

Maybe you can blame Selig, at least partially. If Bonds has been hardcore juicing since 1998 you mean to tell me that he has never failed a drug test in this time?. By looking the other way he has condoned what Bonds and all the others have been doing.

Lets look at it like this: you have a child, a teenager. You know that your child is doing drugs, but you look the other way and keep letting him do it. Something bad happens, kid fries his brain, now has the mental capacity of a 4 year old. You don't think that you are partially responsible because you, the parent, the guardian, the overseer of the child knew it was happening and did nothing to stop it?.
Selig has known this has been happening for likely the better part of a decade and did nothing to stop it. Yes Barry Bonds is a grown man, yes he makes his own decisions and yes Selig is not the person who injected him. But if this had been dealt with years ago and there were stiffer penalties (or any penalties for that matter)already in place, then what ever may happen to Bonds or anyone else who has juiced over the past several years would have been prevented. And that is how Selig is partially responsible.

Dealing with athletes is a lot like dealing with children. Ask anyone in Boston who has had to deal with Manny Ramirez.

[McLite]

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He's a joke to the game of baseball and a cheat.

[DGetz]

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Maybe you can blame Selig, at least partially. If Bonds has been hardcore juicing since 1998 you mean to tell me that he has never failed a drug test in this time?. By looking the other way he has condoned what Bonds and all the others have been doing.

Lets look at it like this: you have a child, a teenager. You know that your child is doing drugs, but you look the other way and keep letting him do it. Something bad happens, kid fries his brain, now has the mental capacity of a 4 year old. You don't think that you are partially responsible because you, the parent, the guardian, the overseer of the child knew it was happening and did nothing to stop it?.
Selig has known this has been happening for likely the better part of a decade and did nothing to stop it. Yes Barry Bonds is a grown man, yes he makes his own decisions and yes Selig is not the person who injected him. But if this had been dealt with years ago and there were stiffer penalties (or any penalties for that matter)already in place, then what ever may happen to Bonds or anyone else who has juiced over the past several years would have been prevented. And that is how Selig is partially responsible.

Dealing with athletes is a lot like dealing with children. Ask anyone in Boston who has had to deal with Manny Ramirez.

If you're a parent and you do nothing you're partially responsible. But there is a huge differance between a fifteen year old and a thirty-plus year old man.

I really doubt Bonds has failed a drug test. As far as I know MLB didn't even test for steroids until the last couple of years and even then there were a lot left off the list and a lot which are either undetectable or maskable.

Selig's job is to be the comissioner of Major League Baseball not the father of 1000+ grown men. Selig and all the others are adults and thus I think a better analogy would be if you had a friend who ended up frying his brains on drugs. Sure you could have tried to warn him or given him advice but if he fries his head you're probobly going to feel he was the one resonsible for it. In terms of looking out for players health, if that is going to fall to anyone involved in the game other than the players themselves it would be the MLBPA officials and they are much more at fault than Selig becaue not only have they not attempted to dissuade players from taking these drugs, they have fought (essentially) for the rights of the players to take these drugs. Ultimetly though the responsibiliy for their health comes down to the player - each one of them has control about what they do or dont put in their bodies.

[mdurd2817]

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Quite a few cheaters still in the league.

[keRplunK]

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Where's Bret Boone's book?

[grunt]

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What is the big deal? We all knew that players in this era was juiced. They take speed and roids and now fans are acting shock. Baseball didn't mind when the long ball was "saving the game". Bonds was the best player in basball before the roids and he was the best on roids.

The great thing is that Bonds don't care. He will play and break records as long as his knee hold up.

[Jistic]

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Bud is a joke. Barry is a joke. The people the stand behind Barry are an even bigger joke.

If MLB doesn't throw Barry out on his ***, then I'll have a hard time watching anything baseball this year. Its gonna be hilarious to see how E$PN spins this as they worship the guy.

Joe Morgan will be licking his *** every game.