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  • Stu
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    • Jun 2004
    • 7924

    #136
    Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

    Originally posted by Diadem
    That's not entirely true. I know somebody who can bench press 225 for 50 reps at age 50, He's steroid free.
    I didn't say anything about his bench press. I have no doubt older people can get into better shape if they work hard enough.

    My point is, there's no way a major league baseball player all of a sudden goes from being a very good player to one of the all time greats at the age of 34, and there's 100 or so years of baseball history to back me up.
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    • USF11
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      • Jun 2003
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      #137
      Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

      Originally posted by Diadem
      He's been lifting for 30yrs.
      Then hes on steriods or HGH. A persons physical peek happens mid-late 20's. The all-time NFL combine record is 45 and thats with lots of money at stake. Thats why it was so obvious to spot the steriod users in baseball, because they where having the best years of their careers past 35.
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      • Diadem
        MVP
        • Apr 2004
        • 754

        #138
        Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

        Originally posted by USF11
        Then hes on steriods or HGH. A persons physical peek happens mid-late 20's. The all-time NFL combine record is 45 and thats with lots of money at stake. Thats why it was so obvious to spot the steriod users in baseball, because they where having the best years of their careers past 35.
        Do you know anything about weight training?
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        • Stu
          All Star
          • Jun 2004
          • 7924

          #139
          Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

          Originally posted by Diadem
          Do you know anything about weight training?
          What's your point here? We know Barry was on steroids, we know they improved his performance. I don't understand what you're trying to get across by saying you know a guy who can bench press 225.
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          • USF11
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            • Jun 2003
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            #140
            Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

            Originally posted by Diadem
            Do you know anything about weight training?
            Yes, a ton. I been around weight rooms my whole life. I can spot a user in about 2 seconds. 50 reps of 225 is down right impossible for even the worlds strongest people. The only people that could approach the number are on the juice.

            I would bet my car, my house, my dog that no one near the age of fifty that is completely clean of steriods could bp 225 50 times.
            Last edited by USF11; 03-08-2006, 04:16 PM.
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            • Diadem
              MVP
              • Apr 2004
              • 754

              #141
              Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

              Originally posted by camulos
              What's your point here? We know Barry was on steroids, we know they improved his performance. I don't understand what you're trying to get across by saying you know a guy who can bench press 225.
              My point is that your body doesn't have to break down with age especially at the young age of 34. You can get stronger. Barry plays baseball a mostly non contact sport where you spend probably 85% of the time standing around or sittng in the dugout. If you take care of yourself in baseball you can play at a decent level well into your 40's.
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              • Diadem
                MVP
                • Apr 2004
                • 754

                #142
                Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                Originally posted by USF11
                Yes, a ton. I been around weight rooms my whole life. I can spot a user in about 2 seconds. 50 reps of 225 is down right impossible for even the worlds strongest people. The only people that could approach the number are on the juice.

                I would bet my car, my house, my dog that no one near the age of fifty that is completely clean of steriods could bp 225 50 times.
                Well you better get a bus pass and start looking for a new place to stay. You know they went up $2.00.
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                • Stu
                  All Star
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 7924

                  #143
                  Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                  Originally posted by Diadem
                  My point is that your body doesn't have to break down with age especially at the young age of 34. You can get stronger. Barry plays baseball a mostly non contact sport where you spend probably 85% of the time standing around or sittng in the dugout. If you take care of yourself in baseball you can play at a decent level well into your 40's.
                  Ok. Go stick your head back into the sand and check in with us later.
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                  • USF11
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4245

                    #144
                    Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                    Originally posted by Diadem
                    My point is that your body doesn't have to break down with age especially at the young age of 34. You can get stronger. Barry plays baseball a mostly non contact sport where you spend probably 85% of the time standing around or sittng in the dugout. If you take care of yourself in baseball you can play at a decent level well into your 40's.
                    Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How old are you 12? Strength training is about recovery time. Around the age of 25 you start producing less and less testerone which dramatically effects your recovery time. Instead of working out 3 times a week you can only work out once a week.
                    "Good music transcends all physical limits, it's more then something you hear, it's something that you feel, when the author, experience, and passion is real" - Murs (And this is for)

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                    • Diadem
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 754

                      #145
                      Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                      Originally posted by camulos
                      Ok. Go stick your head back into the sand and check in with us later.
                      Be that way if you want to, Read up on things first instead of getting all of your info from the media. Learn to think for yourself.
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                      • Diadem
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 754

                        #146
                        Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                        Originally posted by USF11
                        Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard. How old are you 12? Strength training is about recovery time. Around the age of 25 you start producing less and less testerone which dramatically effects your recovery time. Instead of working out 3 times a week you can only work out once a week.
                        How many 12yr olds do you know who can curl 200lbs. in strict form.
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                        • Stu
                          All Star
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 7924

                          #147
                          Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                          Originally posted by Diadem
                          Be that way if you want to, Read up on things first instead of getting all of your info from the media. Learn to think for yourself.
                          A 34 year old man doesn't pack on 15-20 lbs of muscle in 100 days, and keep that on during a 7 month season when he barely has time to workout, without drugs. It's not the media, it's common sense.
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                          • Diadem
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 754

                            #148
                            Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                            Originally posted by camulos
                            A 34 year old man doesn't pack on 15-20 lbs of muscle in 100 days, and keep that on during a 7 month season when he barely has time to workout, without drugs. It's not the media, it's common sense.
                            It's not that hard to put on 15-20 lbs. If you do it properly you can gain 1-2lbs. in a week. 100 days is plenty of time to gain 15-20lbs.
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                            • DGetz
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 636

                              #149
                              Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                              Originally posted by Diadem
                              It's not that hard to put on 15-20 lbs. If you do it properly you can gain 1-2lbs. in a week. 100 days is plenty of time to gain 15-20lbs.

                              100 days is 14.2 weeks. So for Barry to be putting on that weight he would have be putting on better than a pound per week. While that is physically possible it not something which can be done while only adding a negligable amount of fat. It's also not easy; if it were you would see 20 year old hockey or football players come back from the offseason with 25 pounds more of muscle. And let's not forget Barry's age at the time...
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                              • Diadem
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 754

                                #150
                                Re: More Barry Bonds steroids stuff on ESPN radia right now

                                Originally posted by DGetz
                                100 days is 14.2 weeks. So for Barry to be putting on that weight he would have be putting on better than a pound per week. While that is physically possible it not something which can be done while only adding a negligable amount of fat. It's also not easy; if it were you would see 20 year old hockey or football players come back from the offseason with 25 pounds more of muscle. And let's not forget Barry's age at the time...
                                It's still not impossible to do.
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