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  • Speedy
    #Ace
    • Apr 2008
    • 16143

    #1771
    Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    On another note, I can't think of another player more of a lock in recent years to get in that Chipper. Maybe going back to Cal Ripken. What a career that dude had.
    Really? How so?

    What about Griffey, Maddux?
    Originally posted by Gibson88
    Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
    It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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    • DrJones
      All Star
      • Mar 2003
      • 9109

      #1772
      Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

      Originally posted by Speedy
      What about Griffey, Maddux?
      Borderline cases. Like this guy.

      Originally posted by Thrash13
      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
      Originally posted by slickdtc
      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
      Originally posted by Kipnis22
      yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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      • Jr.
        Playgirl Coverboy
        • Feb 2003
        • 19171

        #1773
        Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

        Interesting article: http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/p...in-cooperstown
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        • Madden08PCgmr
          MVP
          • Feb 2017
          • 2441

          #1774
          Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

          Originally posted by DrJones
          Borderline cases. Like this guy.

          I'm hoping this is a case of my sarcasm detector being broken...

          Arguably the greatest left-hander in history is a borderline HOFr?
          You want free speech?
          Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.

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          • DrJones
            All Star
            • Mar 2003
            • 9109

            #1775
            Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

            That's my secret, Cap. I'm always sarcastic.
            Last edited by DrJones; 05-02-2018, 07:10 PM.
            Originally posted by Thrash13
            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
            Originally posted by slickdtc
            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
            Originally posted by Kipnis22
            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #1776
              Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

              Originally posted by Madden08PCgmr
              I'm hoping this is a case of my sarcasm detector being broken...

              Arguably the greatest left-hander in history is a borderline HOFr?
              Yeah, you need to get that thing into the shop pronto.
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              • DamnYanks2
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 20794

                #1777
                Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                Thought we'd fire this back up

                Tony Oliva
                Dick Allen
                Mike Mussina
                Kevin Brown

                Would you vote for any of them?


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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #1778
                  Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                  Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                  Thought we'd fire this back up

                  Tony Oliva
                  Dick Allen
                  Mike Mussina
                  Kevin Brown

                  Would you vote for any of them?


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                  Tony Oliva - Great player in his prime, but injuries derailed him and he didn't have a long enough peak. He's a Hall of Very Good for me.

                  Dick Allen - The man has a CAREER OPS+ of 156...that's insane. He had 8 full seasons where he posted an OPS+ of 150 or more. His 1972 season was INSANE. He should have been in a LONG time ago. Yes, I'd vote for him.

                  Mike Mussina - I already talked about him in this week's game thread...I'd vote him and Schilling in.

                  Kevin Brown - He's a notch below Mussina/Schilling, IMO, but he's a HOF'r and I'd vote for him.
                  "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                  • TripleCrown9
                    Keep the Faith
                    • May 2010
                    • 23706

                    #1779
                    Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                    Dick Allen should've gotten in right after this photo was taken.

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                    • rdnk
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 5730

                      #1780
                      Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                      Tony Oliva- No. High quality player before injuries derailed his career.
                      Dick Allen- No. Had the HOF peak, but not the longevity or counting stats. He also has way too much personality.
                      Mike Mussina- Yes. Both him and Schilling should be in.
                      Kevin Brown- Yes. Should have gotten more than one ballot. Might get a chance with the veterans committee. Mitchell report hurts him.

                      The standard for pitchers being elected to the HOF has been ultra high recently. If things continue, it is going to be rough going for the current generation of elite pitchers in the non-Kershaw category.
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                      • Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368

                        #1781
                        Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                        Originally posted by rdnk
                        Dick Allen- No. Had the HOF peak, but not the longevity or counting stats. He also has way too much personality.
                        If you think he's not a HOF'r for what he did on the field, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it...I won't argue that point. The second part, however, I have a problem with. What the heck does "personality" have to do with a man's HOF credentials? I want to avoid TOS violations here, so I'll stop here...but I have a problem with everything after the word "stats" in your statement.
                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                        • DamnYanks2
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 20794

                          #1782
                          Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                          Originally posted by rdnk
                          Tony Oliva- No. High quality player before injuries derailed his career.
                          Dick Allen- No. Had the HOF peak, but not the longevity or counting stats. He also has way too much personality.
                          Mike Mussina- Yes. Both him and Schilling should be in.
                          Kevin Brown- Yes. Should have gotten more than one ballot. Might get a chance with the veterans committee. Mitchell report hurts him.

                          The standard for pitchers being elected to the HOF has been ultra high recently. If things continue, it is going to be rough going for the current generation of elite pitchers in the non-Kershaw category.
                          I feel like if Jack Morris is in. The bar was lowered. I agree with Schilling, Moose, I'm borderline on Brown.

                          I think you can make a case for everyone on that list.


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                          • Speedy
                            #Ace
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 16143

                            #1783
                            Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                            Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                            I feel like if Jack Morris is in. The bar was lowered. I agree with Schilling, Moose, I'm borderline on Brown.

                            I think you can make a case for everyone on that list.


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                            I have zero doubt Jack Morris is in because of his performance in the 1991 WS.

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                            Originally posted by Gibson88
                            Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                            It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                            • DrJones
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 9109

                              #1784
                              Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                              Originally posted by Sportsforever
                              If you think he's not a HOF'r for what he did on the field, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it...I won't argue that point. The second part, however, I have a problem with. What the heck does "personality" have to do with a man's HOF credentials? I want to avoid TOS violations here, so I'll stop here...but I have a problem with everything after the word "stats" in your statement.
                              This is why I rarely comment on who I think should go into the Hall of Fame, as opposed to who I think will make it. There's no question that both (particularly older) writers and players alike consider "personality" when it comes to who gets in. Is it fair? No. Has it helped certain players make the HOF (Puckett, Vizquel in a few years) and hurt others (Belle, Brown, Schilling, Andruw Jones, among others)? Absolutely.
                              Originally posted by Thrash13
                              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                              Originally posted by slickdtc
                              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                              Originally posted by Kipnis22
                              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                              • DamnYanks2
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 20794

                                #1785
                                Re: Hall Of Fame: Yes Or No?

                                Originally posted by DrJones
                                This is why I rarely comment on who I think should go into the Hall of Fame, as opposed to who I think will make it. There's no question that both (particularly older) writers and players alike consider "personality" when it comes to who gets in. Is it fair? No. Has it helped certain players make the HOF (Puckett, Vizquel in a few years) and hurt others (Belle, Brown, Schilling, Andruw Jones, among others)? Absolutely.
                                Why is Andruw Jones included in there? Im curious. I thought he was always pretty well liked and had a smile on his face most of the time.

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