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  • Kobalt
    All Star
    • May 2010
    • 9674

    #46
    Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

    Originally posted by Marino
    Glad to see Gonzalez out the West.
    Agreed on that. No one in that lineup scares me now.

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    • bkrich83
      Has Been
      • Jul 2002
      • 71582

      #47
      Originally posted by SoxFan01605

      I'll pretty much leave the rest alone, but I'll just say I think the game's popularity decline has far less to do with financial inequity and more to do with the game itself (not as easy to play pick-up games, pacing, etc).

      that's easy for you to say. You have zero clue what it's like being on the other side of the proverbial fence.
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      • CWood2
        TNA & WWE thanks you
        • May 2004
        • 4356

        #48
        Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

        Originally posted by bkrich83
        that's easy for you to say. You have zero clue what it's like being on the other side of the proverbial fence.
        I personally don't either.

        But Hoyer did the pitching and defense thing with a fraction of Theo's budget, within a game of the playoffs. He's a phenominal young baseball mind, and with his ties to the system he helped build, you're getting 3 great young players. I'm actually really sad to see Kelly go. Rizzo is a great bat with some significant power potential, and Fuentes has Ellsbury-like speed and could roam CF for years.

        Probably doesn't help you feel better abouting losing a guy like AGone. But from my perspective, I sure don't feel like we fleeced anyone. I think it's a necessary move for both teams. We backed ourself into a corner needing a guy like that, and SD would see him go before the deadline anyway. I seriously hope all 3 of them pan out for you.

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        • SoxFan01605
          All Star
          • Jan 2008
          • 7982

          #49
          Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

          Originally posted by bkrich83
          that's easy for you to say. You have zero clue what it's like being on the other side of the proverbial fence.
          I guess it's easier, since this move isn't emotional for me.

          I do agree for sure that I have no clue as to what it's like being a fan of a small market team. The situation sucks, I know that much and can agree with that. My only point was that I just don't see how it's somehow unreasonable for a Red Sox fan (or Yankees fan for that matter) to be happy when their team pulls off a long awaited move.

          As for my opinions on why baseball is declining, I just look at the popularity and pace of other sports and it's easy to see that baseball can't keep up casual popularity as well. I'm sure the markets don't make it easier and are a factor as well, but I don't think it's the predominant one is all....no biggie though.

          Regardless, I honestly hope the prospects work out for you guys. I think, potential wise, SD got a solid group. Obviously, it remains to be seen if they pan out. Bear in mind, this isn't me telling you to like it...lol...only giving you my opinion.

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          • Alliball
            MVP
            • Aug 2004
            • 2368

            #50
            Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Yet another reason of about 1,000 I have abandoned the Padres. Nice to see they have completely renegged on all the promises they were handing out when they wanted everyone to vote for the new stadium.
            Same ownership group that made those promises right?

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            • K_GUN
              C*t*z*n *f RSN
              • Jul 2002
              • 3891

              #51
              Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

              Originally posted by Kobalt
              Boston has 21hrs to sign A-Gon to an extension.
              it'll happen...either today or by spring training
              Bummed that you're not on my ignore list yet?.....Don't worry, I'm sure you will be very soon.

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              • bkrich83
                Has Been
                • Jul 2002
                • 71582

                #52
                Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                Originally posted by Alliball
                Same ownership group that made those promises right?
                Don't care as the previous group also failed to keep their promises. Now with the new group the budget is even smaller.

                Because they caught lightning in a bottle and missed the playoffs by one game doesn't mean they get a free pass.

                If they had another stick or two then they probably make the playoffs. So what do they do to follow it up? They trade the one legit major league bat they have.

                The inequity in baseball is disgusting and it unfortunately is turning me off a sport that I love dearly. The rich get richer and no one gives a crap. Oh well at least we get Red Sox fans telling us they did us a favor.
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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71582

                  #53
                  Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                  Originally posted by CWood2
                  I personally don't either.

                  But Hoyer did the pitching and defense thing with a fraction of Theo's budget, within a game of the playoffs. He's a phenominal young baseball mind, and with his ties to the system he helped build, you're getting 3 great young players. I'm actually really sad to see Kelly go. Rizzo is a great bat with some significant power potential, and Fuentes has Ellsbury-like speed and could roam CF for years.

                  Probably doesn't help you feel better abouting losing a guy like AGone. But from my perspective, I sure don't feel like we fleeced anyone. I think it's a necessary move for both teams. We backed ourself into a corner needing a guy like that, and SD would see him go before the deadline anyway. I seriously hope all 3 of them pan out for you.
                  They aren't great young players. They are prospects nothing, more. The odds of of even two of them panning out are slim.

                  Besides why does it matter? Even if they do develop SD will just end up trading them back to you for prospects.
                  Last edited by bkrich83; 12-05-2010, 12:06 PM.
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                  • RonnieG
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 221

                    #54
                    Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                    Originally posted by bkrich83
                    Don't care as the previous group also failed to keep their promises. Now with the new group the budget is even smaller.

                    Because they caught lightning in a bottle and missed the playoffs by one game doesn't mean they get a free pass.

                    If they had another stick or two then they probably make the playoffs. So what do they do to follow it up? They trade the one legit major league bat they have.

                    The inequity in baseball is disgusting and it unfortunately is turning me off a sport that I love dearly. The rich get richer and no one gives a crap. Oh well at least we get Red Sox fans telling us they did us a favor.

                    Just out of curiosity, when do you think this all started? I ask because when you look at the 80s, baseball was not really like this. The Yankees still spent money but the difference wasnt so vast. So, at what point do you think baseball started down the slippery slope?

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                    • Marino
                      Moderator
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 18113

                      #55
                      Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                      Looks like the trade fell through.

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                      • EnigmaNemesis
                        Animal Liberation
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 12216

                        #56
                        Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                        Originally posted by Marino
                        Looks like the trade fell through.
                        Some reports are saying that, and there is others saying 12 hour crunch time.

                        If they did not work out the extension, massive fail on the Sox brass.
                        Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 12-05-2010, 02:58 PM.
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                        • Kearnzo
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5963

                          #57
                          Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                          Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                          Some reports are saying that, and there is others saying 12 hour crunch time.

                          If they did not work out the extension, massive fail on the Sox brass.
                          Pretty much. I was so pumped yesterday upon hearing about the trade, and just assumed the deal would get done, especially with as long as it has been rumored to happen.

                          Here's to hoping they work it out!

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                          • EnigmaNemesis
                            Animal Liberation
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 12216

                            #58
                            Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                            Originally posted by Kearnzo
                            Pretty much. I was so pumped yesterday upon hearing about the trade, and just assumed the deal would get done, especially with as long as it has been rumored to happen.

                            Here's to hoping they work it out!
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                            • TheMatrix31
                              RF
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 52919

                              #59
                              Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                              Changed the thread title to reflect the drama.

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                              • tWoSour
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 1080

                                #60
                                Re: Welcome to Boston, Adrian...

                                Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                                Some reports are saying that, and there is others saying 12 hour crunch time.

                                If they did not work out the extension, massive fail on the Sox brass.
                                This reeks of the ARod trade......go buy another soccer team John Henry.

                                You knew what it would take before making the trade, and now you pull this crap. Give him 7 with an option

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