MLB Off-Topic

[KingOfLanglade]

MLB Off-Topic

Runner on 2nd in regular season extra innings is back

28 man rosters through April

No pitcher limit restrictions through April

Ohtani Rule is permanently in effect

[Sportsforever]

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Big change with the DH rule; the PA and owners have agreed that if the pitcher is actually hitting and is removed form the game he can remain in as the DH. IOW, if Ohtani is the starting pitcher and is removed after 5 innings, he can stay in as the DH. The purpose apparently is to encourage more two way players.


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[Majingir]

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If you really think about it, Astros were ahead of the curve here…

So the real reason MLB was mad. Not because they cheated, but because they were ahead of the curve with the tech.

Probably because MLB doesn't teams to not abuse this in some way. If they did what the NFL does, and let coaches talk directly to players, you know there would be problems.

I wouldn't mind something like that. Catchers helmets have an earpiece in it and they can communicate with the coach. Eliminate mound visits this way, while not changing the communicating between coach and player.

Big change with the DH rule; the PA and owners have agreed that if the pitcher is actually hitting and is removed form the game he can remain in as the DH. IOW, if Ohtani is the starting pitcher and is removed after 5 innings, he can stay in as the DH. The purpose apparently is to encourage more two way players.


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So the pitcher needs to already be the DH to start the game to be allowed staying as a DH?

Not sure how many pitchers will want to hit, or how many teams will choose a pitcher over just getting a DH.

Although, I'm surprised we don't see more pitchers learn to bunt. You dont need to spend time taking BP all the time to hit home runs or anything, but if you can master the bunt, you could be valuable still. Speaking of which, are pitchers even allowed to pinch hit? Like if a SP is on his off day, could he come off the bench as a pinch hitter?

[kehlis]

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So the pitcher needs to already be the DH to start the game to be allowed staying as a DH?

My guess is the designation on the lineup card will be what we see at other levels as P/DH.

Not sure how many pitchers will want to hit, or how many teams will choose a pitcher over just getting a DH.

Right now, just one.

Although, I'm surprised we don't see more pitchers learn to bunt. You dont need to spend time taking BP all the time to hit home runs or anything, but if you can master the bunt, you could be valuable still.

That's easier said than done, the only real way to really practice bunting is to do it in live pitching situations and most managers wouldn't risk doing that with a pitcher. It's not hard to bunt a ball up into your face.

Speaking of which, are pitchers even allowed to pinch hit? Like if a SP is on his off day, could he come off the bench as a pinch hitter?

Yes, they can and they have. They can also pinch run.

Won't need it anymore though with the dumb ghostrunner rule.

[Majingir]

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My guess is the designation on the lineup card will be what we see at other levels as P/DH.



Right now, just one.



That's easier said than done, the only real way to really practice bunting is to do it in live pitching situations and most managers wouldn't risk doing that with a pitcher. It's not hard to bunt a ball up into your face.



Yes, they can and they have. They can also pinch run.

Won't need it anymore though with the dumb ghostrunner rule.

That would still be a unique situation. Sure, anytime you're on the field, you risk injury, but if you need a bunt in a key situation and your best option on the bench isn't so good, maybe you better your odds with a pitcher?

Or if you need to pinch run without going into your bench, have a pitcher who has decent speed coming in.

I remember doing that growing up too. Obviously diff situation/level of competition, but I was a better baserunner than most people, so if I wasn't in, I could pinch run and it wouldn't impact the bench at all.

I'm sure it's happened more than I think, but I feel like something like that kind of versatility could be something we eventually see more of in baseball.

[mpklub]

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https://twitter.com/JoltinJoey/statu...vkqNkMAJw&s=19

This is why I am no longer an Indians/Guardians fan.

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[LambertandHam]

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I continue to hate Bob Nutting.

[Blzer]

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It says in the article that Sanders shook him off on two pitches and Zunino called a new one through the device.

The calling of pitches and such is all in place just that it’s done electronically versus hand signs


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You're right, I didn't read the article and jumped the gun based off what Vanderbilt was doing. I thought the catcher wasn't calling signs anymore.

Selfishly, this is sad because now I can't see what the signs are as a viewer. I do think that intuition is being removed at some basic level is all.

And no, for those saying it, I'm not one who is against rule changes. I think the Ohtani rule is great, I wanted restricted shifts (not to the extent they're doing it) and 28-man rosters, I'm fine with limited mound visits and shorter inning breaks, the pitch count can be enforced without a scoreboard clock.

I just think some changes are being made with the wrong intent in mind, or one that is removing baseball cadence. They're doing this because somebody was electronically stealing signs. Do the other thing and enforce that action more heavily. Don't give in. It's like them putting "irregardless" in the dictionary or making "literally" literally mean the opposite of what it actually means. They couldn't let the stupid figure it out so they changed for them.

****ing automatic walks, though.

[TheMatrix31]

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Cool. So I'll be turning games off after the 9th inning again like I did last "year."

Glad they see fit to do this again. Literally zero reason. And they're fooling people by saying "2022 only!" Yeah they said that for 2020 and 2021 too. Liars. Just make it permanent so I can stop watching the sport for good. They want more people watching and caring but giving less reason to do so.

And the DH. Instead of implementing the sensible "you sub your pitcher you lose your DH" they implement a "hey you can remove a player but not really you know?"

Hey, whatever they want I guess. They know best.

[Jolly Roger]

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Cool. So I'll be turning games off after the 9th inning again like I did last "year."

Glad they see fit to do this again. Literally zero reason. And they're fooling people by saying "2022 only!" Yeah they said that for 2020 and 2021 too. Liars. Just make it permanent so I can stop watching the sport for good. They want more people watching and caring but giving less reason to do so.

If you're talking about the runner on 2nd in extras, why? Doesn't this give you more incentive to watch, since the game is more likely to be resolved sooner? I was more likely to turn a tied game off before this rule, assuming it might become one of those 14 inning debacles.

To modify a Mitch Hedberg joke, baseball is like pancakes; at the start you love them but by the end you're sick of them. Then rinse and repeat the next day. 9 innings is more than enough, especially with how they play today.

[DamnYanks2]

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What a joke this sport continues to become.

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[KSUowls]

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If you're talking about the runner on 2nd in extras, why? Doesn't this give you more incentive to watch, since the game is more likely to be resolved sooner? I was more likely to turn a tied game off before this rule, assuming it might become one of those 14 inning debacles.

To modify a Mitch Hedberg joke, baseball is like pancakes; at the start you love them but by the end you're sick of them. Then rinse and repeat the next day. 9 innings is more than enough, especially with how they play today.

I dont want to speak for Matrix, but like him I didn't watch games after the 9th.

Quicker resolution doesn't necessarily mean better. It's an entirely different game after the 9th now, in a sport that is all about being a marathon. The game can end on soft contact without any buildup prior to that (walks, other batters getting on base) which just feels anticlimatic. It also robs us of some of the spectacle of extras as it is easier to get that quicker resolution. 14, 15 and 16 inning games are games that I will always remember whereas games that end in 10 or 11 are just kind of another game.

[DieHardYankee26]

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If a Yankees game goes over 9 innings it’s probably 11:30 anyway and time for me to go to sleep so I see the vision.

[Master Live 013]

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Yeah, there is no reason for this in 2022. More underhanded bull**** from Manfred. Coward.

[DamnYanks2]

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Remember how they said the extra innings runner was just because of covid. Lol more lies. Manfred should be a politician.

I can't excuse the weak *** players association either. Lazy bums.

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