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  • Majingir
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    • Apr 2005
    • 47439

    #16051
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    MLB announces that the Negro league from 1920-1948 has officially been given Major League status.

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42509

      #16052
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Majingir
      MLB announces that the Negro league from 1920-1948 has officially been given Major League status.
      Will that change MLB records?
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      • Majingir
        Moderator
        • Apr 2005
        • 47439

        #16053
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Blzer
        Will that change MLB records?
        Not sure if it changes MLB records, or if they're just considering the Negro League the same way NBA considers the ABA, or NHL views the WHA and so on. A separate league that was on the same major league level as they were during that specific time period.

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        • TripleCrown9
          Keep the Faith
          • May 2010
          • 23663

          #16054
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by Blzer
          Will that change MLB records?
          I read an article that said they might include some and not include others.

          For example, they said Josh Gibson would now be tied with J.D. Martinez, Ray Lankford, and Earl Averill for 238 career Major League home runs. And Satchel Paige would now be tied with a few pitchers, including Dizzy Dean and Rick Porcello, at 150 Major League wins.

          But if they included career batting averages, for example, then players such as Gibson would move into the Top 10 all-time, and push out players like Ted Williams and Babe Ruth.

          It said MLB and Elias Sports Bureau would put serious time and effort into how to handle historic stats.
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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47439

            #16055
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by TripleCrown9
            I read an article that said they might include some and not include others.

            For example, they said Josh Gibson would now be tied with J.D. Martinez, Ray Lankford, and Earl Averill for 238 career Major League home runs. And Satchel Paige would now be tied with a few pitchers, including Dizzy Dean and Rick Porcello, at 150 Major League wins.

            But if they included career batting averages, for example, then players such as Gibson would move into the Top 10 all-time, and push out players like Ted Williams and Babe Ruth.

            It said MLB and Elias Sports Bureau would put serious time and effort into how to handle historic stats.
            Seems weird to include some but not others.

            For things like batting averages, it should only count if they played a specific number of games. Not sure what the cutoff should be though. Ruth had over 8000 at bats, Williams over 7700. Gibson had almost 2000. Baseball reference says the cutoff is 3000 plate appearances, so Gibson wouldn't be part of the top 10 in that case based on current criteria.

            Although they cant exactly nitpick on numbers either when guys from the 1800s and early 1900s are part of record books too when players had the most insane stats ever.
            Last edited by Majingir; 12-16-2020, 06:36 PM.

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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47439

              #16056
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              How's this for a celebration.

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              • LambertandHam
                All Star
                • Jul 2010
                • 8008

                #16057
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by Majingir
                MLB announces that the Negro league from 1920-1948 has officially been given Major League status.

                Long time coming imho.
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                • Sportsforever
                  NL MVP
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 20368

                  #16058
                  MLB Off-Topic

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                  • Caulfield
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10986

                    #16059
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Sportsforever
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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47439

                      #16060
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Isn't it also due to the fact that teams are focusing more on power arms?

                      You can teach control. You can't teach power.

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                      • speels
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 779

                        #16061
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        That and the fact that starters only have to itch 5 innings nowadays. I would love to see the increase in starters throwing over 98mph. I look at someone like Pearson. He was on a pitch count each game and knew that he only had to go for so long so why not let it all out.

                        I do agree, it is easier to teach control than it is to teach raw power.

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                        • Jr.
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #16062
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by Majingir
                          Isn't it also due to the fact that teams are focusing more on power arms?

                          You can teach control. You can't teach power.
                          You can definitely train velocity

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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47439

                            #16063
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Jr.
                            You can definitely train velocity

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                            But more times than not you see a team bring in some guy because they know he already has the power, but just needs to work on his control.

                            You don't hear it the other way as often where a guy hits his spots so often but doesn't have the power, and that's what the team is getting him to develop.

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                            • Jr.
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19171

                              #16064
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Majingir
                              But more times than not you see a team bring in some guy because they know he already has the power, but just needs to work on his control.

                              You don't hear it the other way as often where a guy hits his spots so often but doesn't have the power, and that's what the team is getting him to develop.
                              I didn't dispute that

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                              • Caulfield
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 10986

                                #16065
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                isn't the percentage of fastballs actually going down the last couple three years? maybe that's why so many homers are leaving the yard. pitchers throwing more junk instead of heat. maybe in this case quantity (of fastballs) would be better than quality (velocity of fastballs).
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