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  • Master Live 013
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    • Oct 2013
    • 12327

    #13336
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    For the record, I got no problems with Montreal getting a team. It is the splitting time thing I'm perplexed by.
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    • Majingir
      Moderator
      • Apr 2005
      • 47439

      #13337
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Master Live 013
      Wut. No, no way this is a serious plan.
      The Rays have received permission from MLB's executive council to explore a plan in which they would play early season home games in the Tampa Bay area and the rest of the year in Montreal, commissioner Rob Manfred said Thursday.


      Under the plan, the Rays would play in new stadiums in both the Tampa Bay area and Montreal, according to sources. The ability to play games early in the season in Florida would preclude the need for a domed stadium, cutting the cost of a new building. A month ago, Bronfman -- who along with Montreal businessman Mitch Garber has expressed interest in taking a minority stake in the Rays alongside owner Stuart Sternberg -- reached an agreement with a developer on a site in Montreal's Pointe-Saint-Charles neighborhood to potentially build a new stadium. The number of home games each city would receive has not been determined, according to sources.

      So it's not like TB would be paying for 2 stadiums. They cheap out on cost for 1, while the Montreal owners would build their own.



      If this actually happens, MLB better make sure every single game between Jays and that franchise happens during the city swap. Jays should never play in TB.

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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52696

        #13338
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Just say goodbye to Tampa Bay and move to Montreal. Tampa Bay doesn't want a baseball team. I don't think that building a new stadium, that isn't domed, is going to change that mindset.
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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #13339
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Meh, it's fine. Let them do it. Would be exciting to me.


          I wish it weren't as simple as half the season there and half the season there. If you're gonna go for this, I want them in Tampa in June and then Montreal in July, then back to Tampa for August, Montreal in September. Just keep switching it up.



          Let the schedule maker have to figure it out. Or just arrange according to availability. If weather looks bad in Montreal, make the teams fly to Tampa to play the three-game set. Just go all in.
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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47439

            #13340
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Who knows what player would want to play for that team.

            But if this plan doesn't work, I hope this was the final plan TB has, and MLB just outright moves them completely, because this sounds like a last ditch effort.


            But the fact that MLB could've possibly given Montreal permission to be the 30.5th team, could say alot about who would be first in line for a team if relocation or expansion happens.


            Lets say they manage to get things divided up. 81 as TB, 81 as Montreal.

            Of those 81 as Montreal, 19 could be devoted to playing the Jays. That's almost a quarter of their games. Attendance for Jays AND Montreal would go up because of that.


            But the best name that absolutely needs to happen if this is a thing, is calling them the Ex-Rays.
            Last edited by Majingir; 06-20-2019, 02:41 PM.

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            • TripleCrown9
              Keep the Faith
              • May 2010
              • 23663

              #13341
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              The Tampreal Rayxpos need to divide their home games by series. 3-game weekend, Fridays in Tampa, Saturdays in Montreal, Sundays in Tampa.

              Or just play all home games in Emporia, Virginia. The exact midpoint between Montreal and Tampa.
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47439

                #13342
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                Or just play all home games in Emporia, Virginia. The exact midpoint between Montreal and Tampa.
                Richmond is what I saw as halfway point.

                They happen to have a team in AA ball from there too, it all works out lol.

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                • SPTO
                  binging
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 68046

                  #13343
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  This is basically a trial run for the Rays moving to Montreal full time. There are no direct flights between Tampa and Montreal so the crowds up there will be all Quebec people. This is their chance to prove that they can support an MLB team.

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                  • DieHardYankee26
                    BING BONG
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 10178

                    #13344
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Good thing about those no direct flights, Montreal was really in danger of being overrun by Rays fans for a second there.
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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47439

                      #13345
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      You literally just have to fly from TB, connecting from Toronto to Montreal.


                      But what I saw some comments say does make sense.

                      Those old Canadians who go to Florida for the winter could perhaps go to Tampa until May/June and come back in Montreal for the summer. Get to follow the team in both cities.

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #13346
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Was fun while it lasted:

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                        #Rays plan for Montreal already appears near death. St Pete Mayor Rick Kriseman says he told team he would not grant permission for talks with Montreal. Rays have use agreement with St Pete until 2027.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47439

                          #13347
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          Was fun while it lasted:

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                          #Rays plan for Montreal already appears near death. St Pete Mayor Rick Kriseman says he told team he would not grant permission for talks with Montreal. Rays have use agreement with St Pete until 2027.
                          No way MLB is gonna put up with this for much longer. By next CBA surely owners are gonna force MLB to take action against Rays. Build it or you're done.

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                          • CMH
                            Making you famous
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 26203

                            #13348
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by kehlis
                            Was fun while it lasted:

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                            #Rays plan for Montreal already appears near death. St Pete Mayor Rick Kriseman says he told team he would not grant permission for talks with Montreal. Rays have use agreement with St Pete until 2027.

                            I don't know how this stuff works but what's to stop them from just paying for the usage and playing somewhere else?


                            I guess it could come down to the "little" people. What happens to the ticket office, the custodians, the food service, etc. That would be major damage to a lot of people's expected income.
                            "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                            "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #13349
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              I don't know how this stuff works but what's to stop them from just paying for the usage and playing somewhere else?


                              I guess it could come down to the "little" people. What happens to the ticket office, the custodians, the food service, etc. That would be major damage to a lot of people's expected income.
                              Someone asked this guy that very question. Sorry for the formatting but this was his response:

                              Use agreement does not allow them to even talk to other cities about playing anywhere before 2028.John Romano added,
                              John Wien

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                              Replying to @romano_tbtimes
                              As far as the lease goes, does it matter where they play so long as they make the rent payments?

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                              • kehlis
                                Moderator
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 27738

                                #13350
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                No way MLB is gonna put up with this for much longer. By next CBA surely owners are gonna force MLB to take action against Rays. Build it or you're done.
                                Why do other owners care?

                                (Serious question, I've never understood this. Why would another franchise that is struggling make other owners want to "force change" on them)

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