What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

[brev87]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

For the those ignorant in the group:

Advances in Medicine mean being able to apply medicines or surgeries to quicker the healing and in essence getting the player back on the field quicker

Increased Strength means the greater knowledge of how the body works and functions...The better equipment we have to train those muscles specifically for whichever sport it pertains too

As far as Bonds hitting 70 hrs out of the blue...

From 1992 - 200 with the exception of 2001 where he hit 73...Bonds AVERAGED 32-45 HRS in that time span....I agree Steroids probably helped him get a few HR's he didnt deserve.....But all of them werent!! The guy plain out murders EVERY pitcher he faces almost

Ted Williams only hit .400 once in his career after averaging over .350+ his career I believe (that must also mean he is using perforance enchancing drugs) Comparable to your arguement about Bonds' 73 when he only average 35-45 HRS...

Dont come on this thread and throw out dumb, idiotic nonsense just to piss people off....FORTUNATELY there are some educated people on this thread who can have a constructive debate...If you want debate give me some cold hard facts just dont pull $h!t out of your @$$.

Ok, see I didnt want to get into a flame match with anyone. I have every right to express my opinion just like you. Whether you like it or not. Im not dumb, idiotic or ignorant......Im just a 35 yr old father, here at work trying to get into the conversation at hand.

Now that thats out of the way. Lets talk baseball.

I have been watching baseball for over 20 years, and I have never in my life seen a player pitched around like Bonds. Never. By the 3rd ball, this man is already walking to 1st base. Its unheard of. Back in 93' when he came to the Giants, NOBODY was calling him a "BEAST". They were calling a "GREAT" player that does it all. Now he's un-pitchable. I dont buy it.

And you know what, as a father of a 7 yr old that likes to go to Yankee games.........I shouldnt have to pay inflated prices to watch inflated salaries like Giambi or Bonds, because they cheated to hit the long ball.

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Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

For the those ignorant in the group:

Advances in Medicine mean being able to apply medicines or surgeries to quicker the healing and in essence getting the player back on the field quicker

Increased Strength means the greater knowledge of how the body works and functions...The better equipment we have to train those muscles specifically for whichever sport it pertains too

As far as Bonds hitting 70 hrs out of the blue...

From 1992 - 200 with the exception of 2001 where he hit 73...Bonds AVERAGED 32-45 HRS in that time span....I agree Steroids probably helped him get a few HR's he didnt deserve.....But all of them werent!! The guy plain out murders EVERY pitcher he faces almost

Ted Williams only hit .400 once in his career after averaging over .350+ his career I believe (that must also mean he is using perforance enchancing drugs) Comparable to your arguement about Bonds' 73 when he only average 35-45 HRS...

Dont come on this thread and throw out dumb, idiotic nonsense just to piss people off....FORTUNATELY there are some educated people on this thread who can have a constructive debate...If you want debate give me some cold hard facts just dont pull $h!t out of your @$$.

Ok, see I didnt want to get into a flame match with anyone. I have every right to express my opinion just like you. Whether you like it or not. Im not dumb, idiotic or ignorant......Im just a 35 yr old father, here at work trying to get into the conversation at hand.

Now that thats out of the way. Lets talk baseball.

I have been watching baseball for over 20 years, and I have never in my life seen a player pitched around like Bonds. Never. By the 3rd ball, this man is already walking to 1st base. Its unheard of. Back in 93' when he came to the Giants, NOBODY was calling him a "BEAST". They were calling a "GREAT" player that does it all. Now he's un-pitchable. I dont buy it.

And you know what, as a father of a 7 yr old that likes to go to Yankee games.........I shouldnt have to pay inflated prices to watch inflated salaries like Giambi or Bonds, because they cheated to hit the long ball.

[USCTrojan83]

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I was a little off. He was 6-foot, 180.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/aaronha01.shtml

Good stuff...I just think Barry roids or not is still one of the greatest players ive ever SEEN play the game and if he breaks the record I will still give him his due respect....Amazing Aaron hit that many hrs being that small...ala Ken Griffey Jr.

Of All People I wish Ken went on a tear and resotred his lustrius career and broke the Aaron Record, or Bonds if he gets to it!!

[USCTrojan83]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

I was a little off. He was 6-foot, 180.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/a/aaronha01.shtml

Good stuff...I just think Barry roids or not is still one of the greatest players ive ever SEEN play the game and if he breaks the record I will still give him his due respect....Amazing Aaron hit that many hrs being that small...ala Ken Griffey Jr.

Of All People I wish Ken went on a tear and resotred his lustrius career and broke the Aaron Record, or Bonds if he gets to it!!

[Casino]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

"Mr. Canseco, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

[Casino]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

"Mr. Canseco, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

[SportsTop]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

"Mr. Canseco, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Like it or not, he appears to be the most candid of the group even if some of his testimony stretches the truth as it is said his book has.

It is going to take someone like Canseco to come out and possibly even exaggerate to bring the seriousness of this problem to the spotlight.

I believe that his book and his testimony will ultimately do more good than harm.

[SportsTop]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

"Mr. Canseco, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Like it or not, he appears to be the most candid of the group even if some of his testimony stretches the truth as it is said his book has.

It is going to take someone like Canseco to come out and possibly even exaggerate to bring the seriousness of this problem to the spotlight.

I believe that his book and his testimony will ultimately do more good than harm.

[USCTrojan83]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Ok, see I didnt want to get into a flame match with anyone. I have every right to express my opinion just like you. Whether you like it or not. Im not dumb, idiotic or ignorant......Im just a 35 yr old father, here at work trying to get into the conversation at hand.

Now that thats out of the way. Lets talk baseball.

I have been watching baseball for over 20 years, and I have never in my life seen a player pitched around like Bonds. Never. By the 3rd ball, this man is already walking to 1st base. Its unheard of. Back in 93' when he came to the Giants, NOBODY was calling him a "BEAST". They were calling a "GREAT" player that does it all. Now he's un-pitchable. I dont buy it.

And you know what, as a father of a 7 yr old that likes to go to Yankee games.........I shouldnt have to pay inflated prices to watch inflated salaries like Giambi or Bonds, because they cheated to hit the long ball.

You didnt express your opinion you just said in a childish manner (which is what I normally come across in these threads)

Better medicine = roids
Better strength = roids

Which wasn't exactly a quality opinion.....

I can see where you are coming from. but ...'92 he was still a good .311 34 HRs 127 BB
'93 46HRS 126 BB .336 (BEFORE ROIDS SUPPOSEDLY)

'02 46HRS 198BB .370
'03 45HRS 148BB .341
'04 45 232 .362 (This year was rediculous)

Look man all im saying is the guys is a monster....He may not have been a monsyer but most guys arent monsters or that feared at 25-28 years old...Most people become feared as they progress in the years

Soon Puljos will be in the same category!!



IN REGARDS TO YOUR SON LIKING THE YANKEES..........ITS NOT BONDS, OR GIAMBI ITS STEINBRENNER AND HIS 200+ MIL PAYROLL.....AND THATS THE TRUTH....SO BLAME YOUR OWNER FOR SHELLING OUT THE BIG BUCKS FOR GAMES

[USCTrojan83]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Ok, see I didnt want to get into a flame match with anyone. I have every right to express my opinion just like you. Whether you like it or not. Im not dumb, idiotic or ignorant......Im just a 35 yr old father, here at work trying to get into the conversation at hand.

Now that thats out of the way. Lets talk baseball.

I have been watching baseball for over 20 years, and I have never in my life seen a player pitched around like Bonds. Never. By the 3rd ball, this man is already walking to 1st base. Its unheard of. Back in 93' when he came to the Giants, NOBODY was calling him a "BEAST". They were calling a "GREAT" player that does it all. Now he's un-pitchable. I dont buy it.

And you know what, as a father of a 7 yr old that likes to go to Yankee games.........I shouldnt have to pay inflated prices to watch inflated salaries like Giambi or Bonds, because they cheated to hit the long ball.

You didnt express your opinion you just said in a childish manner (which is what I normally come across in these threads)

Better medicine = roids
Better strength = roids

Which wasn't exactly a quality opinion.....

I can see where you are coming from. but ...'92 he was still a good .311 34 HRs 127 BB
'93 46HRS 126 BB .336 (BEFORE ROIDS SUPPOSEDLY)

'02 46HRS 198BB .370
'03 45HRS 148BB .341
'04 45 232 .362 (This year was rediculous)

Look man all im saying is the guys is a monster....He may not have been a monsyer but most guys arent monsters or that feared at 25-28 years old...Most people become feared as they progress in the years

Soon Puljos will be in the same category!!



IN REGARDS TO YOUR SON LIKING THE YANKEES..........ITS NOT BONDS, OR GIAMBI ITS STEINBRENNER AND HIS 200+ MIL PAYROLL.....AND THATS THE TRUTH....SO BLAME YOUR OWNER FOR SHELLING OUT THE BIG BUCKS FOR GAMES

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Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Like it or not, he appears to be the most candid of the group even if some of his testimony stretches the truth as it is said his book has.

It is going to take someone like Canseco to come out and possibly even exaggerate to bring the seriousness of this problem to the spotlight.

I believe that his book and his testimony will ultimately do more good than harm.

Well said.

The seriousness is the money being made by MLB and the players off of this stuff.

They have to say to themselves, do we go back to 30 to 40 homerun leaders or the monster seasons we have now.

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Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Like it or not, he appears to be the most candid of the group even if some of his testimony stretches the truth as it is said his book has.

It is going to take someone like Canseco to come out and possibly even exaggerate to bring the seriousness of this problem to the spotlight.

I believe that his book and his testimony will ultimately do more good than harm.

Well said.

The seriousness is the money being made by MLB and the players off of this stuff.

They have to say to themselves, do we go back to 30 to 40 homerun leaders or the monster seasons we have now.

[poster]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Mark McGwire is a tool. What a liar. He wont talk about the past cause he is a cheater. How pathatic.

[poster]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

Mark McGwire is a tool. What a liar. He wont talk about the past cause he is a cheater. How pathatic.

[ChicagoNVA]

Re: What is your take on the Congress and MLB?

I have a problem with this whole panel.. i THINKS IT'S A CROCK! Just a bunch a congressman.. wanting some face time.

What a bunch of hypocrites...?