Bonds Out Til The Break...

[USCTrojan83]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I HAVE to blame Baseball for this. They pertetuated this monster by looking the other way for probably 30 years or more. Now guys are shattering records many thought unbreakable and Baseball wants to come out looking ignorant to the process. Who in their right mind would believe that? Sure, maybe the owners didn't buy the stuff and inject the players, but by remaining silent while their Frankensteins set all sorts of records, they are just as guilty. Maybe even more so.
Bubba4

Couldnt have put it any better. Very well put bubba

The sad thing is, is that people still dont realize the effects of the rampant use of amphetamines or 'greenies.' Greenies have shown to improve hand-eye coordination, improve alertness and focus. Maybe people or fans dont care about this type of abuse because you cant see the physical impact to the body compared to what steroids does to the body. Amphetamines kill more MORE users than users of steroids. And the MLB is the ONLY professional sports league not to ban aphetamines as a performance enhancing drug. The NBA, NFL, NHL, Olympic Comittee all ban it.

[mattstl77]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

Couldnt have put it any better. Very well put bubba

The sad thing is, is that people still dont realize the effects of the rampant use of amphetamines or 'greenies.' Greenies have shown to improve hand-eye coordination, improve alertness and focus. Maybe people or fans dont care about this type of abuse because you cant see the physical impact to the body compared to what steroids does to the body. Amphetamines kill more MORE users than users of steroids. And the MLB is the ONLY professional sports league not to ban aphetamines as a performance enhancing drug. The NBA, NFL, NHL, Olympic Comittee all ban it.

Boy you are all about the "greenies" huh? I agree, someone should look into that. They need to be consistent on all types of drug abuse; whether or not it enhances their play or not.

Their is enough blame to go around for the drug abuse of athletes. Of course the clubhouses, managers, general managers, owners, etc should be held accountable. But whenever it comes down to it, it is the player that is injecting, swallowing, or rubbing steriods into them. It is all about ethics and some of these players, owners, and managers don't have a good grasp on what is morally right and what is morally wrong.

[mattstl77]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

Couldnt have put it any better. Very well put bubba

The sad thing is, is that people still dont realize the effects of the rampant use of amphetamines or 'greenies.' Greenies have shown to improve hand-eye coordination, improve alertness and focus. Maybe people or fans dont care about this type of abuse because you cant see the physical impact to the body compared to what steroids does to the body. Amphetamines kill more MORE users than users of steroids. And the MLB is the ONLY professional sports league not to ban aphetamines as a performance enhancing drug. The NBA, NFL, NHL, Olympic Comittee all ban it.

Boy you are all about the "greenies" huh? I agree, someone should look into that. They need to be consistent on all types of drug abuse; whether or not it enhances their play or not.

Their is enough blame to go around for the drug abuse of athletes. Of course the clubhouses, managers, general managers, owners, etc should be held accountable. But whenever it comes down to it, it is the player that is injecting, swallowing, or rubbing steriods into them. It is all about ethics and some of these players, owners, and managers don't have a good grasp on what is morally right and what is morally wrong.

[Stu]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

Couldnt have put it any better. Very well put bubba

The sad thing is, is that people still dont realize the effects of the rampant use of amphetamines or 'greenies.' Greenies have shown to improve hand-eye coordination, improve alertness and focus. Maybe people or fans dont care about this type of abuse because you cant see the physical impact to the body compared to what steroids does to the body. Amphetamines kill more MORE users than users of steroids. And the MLB is the ONLY professional sports league not to ban aphetamines as a performance enhancing drug. The NBA, NFL, NHL, Olympic Comittee all ban it.

I think amphetamines are the next logical step. Remember, baseball is years behind other sports in regards to a policy for performance enhancing drugs. It will take some time for them to incorporate other drugs such as amphetamines. With Congress now involved MLB isn't going to be able to just revise their steroid policy and call it a day.

[Stu]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

Couldnt have put it any better. Very well put bubba

The sad thing is, is that people still dont realize the effects of the rampant use of amphetamines or 'greenies.' Greenies have shown to improve hand-eye coordination, improve alertness and focus. Maybe people or fans dont care about this type of abuse because you cant see the physical impact to the body compared to what steroids does to the body. Amphetamines kill more MORE users than users of steroids. And the MLB is the ONLY professional sports league not to ban aphetamines as a performance enhancing drug. The NBA, NFL, NHL, Olympic Comittee all ban it.

I think amphetamines are the next logical step. Remember, baseball is years behind other sports in regards to a policy for performance enhancing drugs. It will take some time for them to incorporate other drugs such as amphetamines. With Congress now involved MLB isn't going to be able to just revise their steroid policy and call it a day.

[RahKhem]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I think what USCTrojan is trying to say, is that we are crucifying all these players for taking something that doesn't help hand-eye coordination, but we are completely forgetting about amphetamines, which would help in baseball much more than steroids, its probably because the media isn't covering it as much.

[RahKhem]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I think what USCTrojan is trying to say, is that we are crucifying all these players for taking something that doesn't help hand-eye coordination, but we are completely forgetting about amphetamines, which would help in baseball much more than steroids, its probably because the media isn't covering it as much.

[mattstl77]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I think what USCTrojan is trying to say, is that we are crucifying all these players for taking something that doesn't help hand-eye coordination, but we are completely forgetting about amphetamines, which would help in baseball much more than steroids, its probably because the media isn't covering it as much.

I know what he is trying to say. But I am trying to say that ALL drugs are wrong, whether or not they enhance performance or not. I am not trying going to defend steriod use, even if it doesn't enhance abilities that much.

[mattstl77]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I think what USCTrojan is trying to say, is that we are crucifying all these players for taking something that doesn't help hand-eye coordination, but we are completely forgetting about amphetamines, which would help in baseball much more than steroids, its probably because the media isn't covering it as much.

I know what he is trying to say. But I am trying to say that ALL drugs are wrong, whether or not they enhance performance or not. I am not trying going to defend steriod use, even if it doesn't enhance abilities that much.

[USCTrojan83]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I know what he is trying to say. But I am trying to say that ALL drugs are wrong, whether or not they enhance performance or not. I am not trying going to defend steriod use, even if it doesn't enhance abilities that much.

My god I've spent numerous hours wasting my company's time on these thread and finally few people agree. I just hope more people take this approach as you and a few others have and realize there needs to be consistence in the drug policy.

[USCTrojan83]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I know what he is trying to say. But I am trying to say that ALL drugs are wrong, whether or not they enhance performance or not. I am not trying going to defend steriod use, even if it doesn't enhance abilities that much.

My god I've spent numerous hours wasting my company's time on these thread and finally few people agree. I just hope more people take this approach as you and a few others have and realize there needs to be consistence in the drug policy.

[Bobolini]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

Why is it cheating if mlb wasn't banning it. I mean mlb baseball took drug tests last yearand found something like 30 percent of the players were postive for steriods and yet that was okay till this year. So its illegal this year and therefore a "cheat". But if it was okay before that then why should they be considered cheaters? Blame MLB for there awful steriods policy and not making it banned a long time ago. Not the players for doing something that wasn't causing them to be fined, suspened etc.

Your response astounds me and explains a lot about our society today. Let's not take responsibility for our actions let's blame someone else! Damn! I'm sick of this attitude. BLAME BLAME BLAME!
How old are you?
Grow up!
Blame starts at home!
Sorry for the rant but I'm older and sick of this blameful, sue happing society we currently live in.

[Bobolini]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

Why is it cheating if mlb wasn't banning it. I mean mlb baseball took drug tests last yearand found something like 30 percent of the players were postive for steriods and yet that was okay till this year. So its illegal this year and therefore a "cheat". But if it was okay before that then why should they be considered cheaters? Blame MLB for there awful steriods policy and not making it banned a long time ago. Not the players for doing something that wasn't causing them to be fined, suspened etc.

Your response astounds me and explains a lot about our society today. Let's not take responsibility for our actions let's blame someone else! Damn! I'm sick of this attitude. BLAME BLAME BLAME!
How old are you?
Grow up!
Blame starts at home!
Sorry for the rant but I'm older and sick of this blameful, sue happing society we currently live in.

[Anaxamander]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I'm just glad the Giants didn't win the World Series that year. In fact, I'm glad that none of the big three roided-up sluggers--Bonds, McGwire & Sosa--ever won a World Series. It's bad enough that they've sullied the individual records.

[Anaxamander]

Re: Gee what a surprise - Bonds out for 1/2 to whole year!

I'm just glad the Giants didn't win the World Series that year. In fact, I'm glad that none of the big three roided-up sluggers--Bonds, McGwire & Sosa--ever won a World Series. It's bad enough that they've sullied the individual records.